Gutfeld To Me: Why Do Liberals Have A Hard Time Identifying Evil

Posted by | August 29, 2014 00:05 | Filed under: Politics Top Stories



It’s not whether or not liberals (like me) can’t identify evil. It’s whether or not ISIS is a threat to the United States, and I, much to the horror of Greg Gutfeld and most viewers of the O’Reilly Factor, said they are not a threat and we should stay out of a war between Sunni and Shiite Muslims. But my answer goes to the core of what is really the issue: We don’t need to be involved everywhere in the world where there is evil, and ISIS is not an”existential threat,” as Greg put it, to the United States.

 

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266 responses to Gutfeld To Me: Why Do Liberals Have A Hard Time Identifying Evil

  1. Chinese Democracy August 29th, 2014 at 02:12

    my favorite “after the beheading of an American , he doesnt believe ISIS is a threat”. Leave it to a t bagger to think one crazy man with a knife is a threat to a country with the most powerful military on earth.

    P.S I see a drone in the crazy mans near future.

  2. majii August 29th, 2014 at 03:56

    Keep pushing for more wars, neocons. I’ll believe you’re serious when your buddies in Congress find their balls and turn their talk into action. Not gonna happen. They will run away from taking a vote this time as fast as they did last year when the time came for them to stop spreading sh*t everywhere and vote for a military intervention in Syria!

  3. majii August 29th, 2014 at 03:56

    Keep pushing for more wars, neocons. I’ll believe you’re serious when your buddies in Congress find their balls and turn their talk into action. Not gonna happen. They will run away from taking a vote this time as fast as they did last year when the time came for them to stop spreading sh*t everywhere and vote for a military intervention in Syria!

  4. fahvel August 29th, 2014 at 04:34

    the comments above reveal the real evil and it’s in the usa’s backyard. The miserable and terrified sheep will be their own demise.

  5. fahvel August 29th, 2014 at 04:34

    the comments above reveal the real evil and it’s in the usa’s backyard. The miserable and terrified sheep will be their own demise.

  6. Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 04:43

    A terrorist state with 3.5 MILLION barrels of oil to sell every day is no threat to America? If ISIS spends just 1/12 of Iraq’s oil revenue on terrorism they could spend $875,000,000 a month.

    • Tommy6860 August 29th, 2014 at 04:53

      And yet the GOP is anathema to technologies that would make us less dependent on oil, like solar and wind energies. Why? because they are beholden to the companies whose profits are mostly made on fossil fuels and don’t want the green to interfere with their profits, like the big oil companies, the Koch brothers, etc, and they all buy their elections and retirements. Why do you not protest their obstinance to green technologies, if what you say is true?

      • Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 05:12

        America could stop using oil tomorrow and it won’t change the fact that Iraq is pumping 3.5 billion barrels of oil a day. The world runs on energy. Wind and solar are rich people’s energy. Most of the world isn’t rich. The issue is a terrorist state with the ability to spend BILLIONS of dollars on terrorism. 9/11 probably cost less than $1,000,000 to pull off. multiply that by 875 a month and tell me America won’t suffer another 9/11 or worse

        • Tommy6860 August 29th, 2014 at 05:14

          Maybe you should excuse yourself from my previous question. It’s obvious you are being either daft, or very simplistic. I think both.

          • Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 15:54

            I’m sure if we just give a little more money to Solyndra, Fiskar, and A123 ISIS will see that we mean business and they will adopt a hands off policy with America.

        • cecilia August 29th, 2014 at 15:58

          actually OIL is rich people energy.

          solar and wind and alt is being used by individuals all over the planet..including some really poor Africans

          • Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 17:10

            According to the solar energy industry a solar system that supplies the typical 1000 sq. ft. american home with electricity can be had for as little as $20,000. At .11 cents a kwh that is 173,913 kwh. or about 434 months or about 36 years of electricity bills

            • mea_mark August 29th, 2014 at 17:50

              That doesn’t right. Can you provide a link with current costs and figures? What you are saying sounds pretty out of date. Prices have been coming down quite substantially. We don’t want to mislead people with false information do we? Well, maybe you do but most of us don’t.

              • Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 19:25

                “As a rough guide, you can assume that a residence will need to initially spend about $20,000 per 1000 sq. ft. of space to generate enough electricity to offset typical usage”

                http://convergence-energy.com/pricing/ (copyright 2014)

                • mea_mark August 29th, 2014 at 20:58

                  From your link, that is before incentives and write offs. The actual cost would be about half to maybe 2/3 of that. I have also seen cheaper than that.

                  I talked to someone I know that got a solar system about a year ago for there 2000 sq ft house and it cost $13,000 and they said there electric bill in June was 84 cents. Substantially lower than what you are quoting. The payout is less than years and the equipment is guaranteed for 20 years. That is 10 years of free electricity and the actual length of time the system is predicted to last at 80% or better is over 25 years.

                  • Red Eye Robot August 30th, 2014 at 00:17

                    the cost of the system is still $20,000 dollars per 1000 sq. ft. whether you paid all of it out of your pocket or the government took some of your fellow taxpayers money to buy it for you. Your friends $13,000 system cost roughly $26,000 (using your 1/2 estimate) assuming an increase in power usage of about 50% = 31.4 years of electric bills at .11 &1/2 cents a KWH that assumes that the solar panels produce the same power on day 1 as they do on day 11,400 ,(Hint, they won’t http://energyinformative.org/lifespan-solar-panels/) And don’t think for a minute your home owners policy will cover storm damage to your $13,000 system without raising your premium.

                    Note I didn’t play your cowardly game of asking for proof your acquaintance really paid as little as $13,000 for a system the industry says that even with the most generous tax incentives.should have cost in the neighborhood of $20,000

                    Added bonus, If you mount this system on your roof will need to remove the entire system when it comes time to replace your roof. Also you will probably degrade the life of your shingles due to mold or mildew growth under the panels, You might even void the warranty (tack on another $4000 to the cost of your “free” energy)

                    • mea_mark August 30th, 2014 at 09:20

                      They are retired and did it without any subsidies. If they were still working they would of qualified for the 30% tax write off and dropped their cost accordingly but no, that was a cash price for everything including having it hooked it to the internet for monitoring. The electric here is closer to 13 cents kwh and there is the pole charge of around $25 a month included.

                      Actually they paid 12 thousand and something and I rounded it up to be safe.

                      It was also installed on a metal roof which shouldn’t ever need replacing.

                      And as I said the panels are guaranteed to produce at least 80% of rated production for 20 years.

                      And it is an all electric house no gas appliances.

        • Bill Lommey August 29th, 2014 at 18:43

          Iraq is producing about 2.8 MILLION bpd, not BILLION. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL6N0M22P120140305?irpc=932

    • Obewon August 29th, 2014 at 06:53

      So just now you finally figured out Big Oil repubs never had any exit strategy? Halliburton Cheney’s $6 T wasted on invading the wrong country only exploded oil prices 10-fold from $12-$14/brl in 2000, to 2008’s U.S. record $147/brl, creating the obvious Democrat foretold power vacuum that delivered global ‘Record low everything since (R) Hoover’s Great Depression!’

      Your Big oil addicted fear mongers exploit conservatives primitive genetic deficiencies for their own profit motives: Globally repeated peer reviewed studies long ago confirmed: Conservatives have a larger ‘fear center’ in their brain, at the expense of smaller hope and optimism glands. “Amygdalas are responsible for fear and other “primitive” emotions. At the same time, conservatives’ brains were also found to have a smaller anterior cingulate — the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.” http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/28/conservatives-fear-center-brain/ Tommy below is correct. Cons derided every green technology and MPG fuel economy increases delivering 54 MPG Average by 2022 via the Obama Admins ‘Conservation’ that now exports more U.S. oil than we import for the first time in decades! We don’t need middle east oil, or Cheney’s GOP cronies.

    • Abby Normal August 29th, 2014 at 07:07

      Here’s a plan. Go over and fight ISIS yourself. We’ll cheer you on.

      • Tammy Minton Haley August 29th, 2014 at 12:25

        hellz, yeah! Go You, Robot, You!

    • fancypants August 29th, 2014 at 22:54

      maybe we should have taken Donald trumps advise ? ” we should have taken that oilfield for ourselves so isis would not have it today “

  7. Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 04:43

    A terrorist state with 3.5 MILLION barrels of oil to sell every day is no threat to America? If ISIS spends just 1/12 of Iraq’s oil revenue on terrorism they could spend $875,000,000 a month.

    • Tommy6860 August 29th, 2014 at 04:53

      And yet the GOP is anathema to technologies that would make us less dependent on oil, like solar and wind energies. Why? because they are beholden to the companies whose profits are mostly made on fossil fuels and don’t want the green to interfere with their profits, like the big oil companies, the Koch brothers, etc, and they all buy their elections and retirements. Why do you not protest their obstinance to green technologies, if what you say is true?

      • Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 05:12

        America could stop using oil tomorrow and it won’t change the fact that Iraq is pumping 3.5 billion barrels of oil a day. The world runs on energy. Wind and solar are rich people’s energy. Most of the world isn’t rich. The issue is a terrorist state with the ability to spend BILLIONS of dollars on terrorism. 9/11 probably cost less than $1,000,000 to pull off. multiply that by 875 a month and tell me America won’t suffer another 9/11 or worse

        • Tommy6860 August 29th, 2014 at 05:14

          Maybe you should excuse yourself from my previous question. It’s obvious you are being either daft, or very simplistic. I think both.

          • Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 15:54

            I’m sure if we just give a little more money to Solyndra, Fiskar, and A123 ISIS will see that we mean business and they will adopt a hands off policy with America.

        • cecilia August 29th, 2014 at 15:58

          actually OIL is rich people energy.

          solar and wind and alt is being used by individuals all over the planet..including some really poor Africans

          • Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 17:10

            According to the solar energy industry a solar system that supplies the typical 1000 sq. ft. american home with electricity can be had for as little as $20,000. At .11 cents a kwh that is 173,913 kwh. or about 434 months or about 36 years of electricity bills

            • mea_mark August 29th, 2014 at 17:50

              That doesn’t sound right. Can you provide a link with current costs and figures? What you are saying sounds pretty out of date. Prices have been coming down quite substantially. We don’t want to mislead people with false information do we? Well, maybe you do but most of us don’t.

              • Red Eye Robot August 29th, 2014 at 19:25

                “As a rough guide, you can assume that a residence will need to initially spend about $20,000 per 1000 sq. ft. of space to generate enough electricity to offset typical usage”

                http://convergence-energy.com/pricing/ (copyright 2014)

                • mea_mark August 29th, 2014 at 20:58

                  From your link, that is before incentives and write offs. The actual cost would be about half to maybe 2/3 of that. I have also seen cheaper than that.

                  I talked to someone I know that got a solar system about a year ago for there 2000 sq ft house and it cost $13,000 and they said there electric bill in June was 84 cents. Substantially lower than what you are quoting. The payout is less than years and the equipment is guaranteed for 20 years. That is 10 years of free electricity and the actual length of time the system is predicted to last at 80% or better is over 25 years.

                  • Red Eye Robot August 30th, 2014 at 00:17

                    the cost of the system is still $20,000 dollars per 1000 sq. ft. whether you paid all of it out of your pocket or the government took some of your fellow taxpayers money to buy it for you. Your friends $13,000 system cost roughly $26,000 (using your 1/2 estimate) assuming an increase in power usage of about 50% = 31.4 years of electric bills at .11 &1/2 cents a KWH that assumes that the solar panels produce the same power on day 1 as they do on day 11,400 ,(Hint, they won’t http://energyinformative.org/lifespan-solar-panels/) And don’t think for a minute your home owners policy will cover storm damage to your $13,000 system without raising your premium.

                    Note I didn’t play your cowardly game of asking for proof your acquaintance really paid as little as $13,000 for a system the industry says that even with the most generous tax incentives.should have cost in the neighborhood of $20,000

                    Added bonus, If you mount this system on your roof will need to remove the entire system when it comes time to replace your roof. Also you will probably degrade the life of your shingles due to mold or mildew growth under the panels, You might even void the warranty (tack on another $4000 to the cost of your “free” energy)

                    • mea_mark August 30th, 2014 at 09:20

                      They are retired and did it without any subsidies. If they were still working they would of qualified for the 30% tax write off and dropped their cost accordingly but no, that was a cash price for everything including having it hooked it to the internet for monitoring. The electric here is closer to 13 cents kwh and there is the pole charge of around $25 a month included.

                      Actually they paid 12 thousand and something and I rounded it up to be safe.

                      It was also installed on a metal roof which shouldn’t ever need replacing.

                      And as I said the panels are guaranteed to produce at least 80% of rated production for 20 years.

                      And it is an all electric house no gas appliances.

        • Bill Lommey August 29th, 2014 at 18:43

          Iraq is producing about 2.8 MILLION bpd, not BILLION. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL6N0M22P120140305?irpc=932

    • Obewon August 29th, 2014 at 06:53

      So just now you finally figured out Big Oil repubs never had any exit strategy? Halliburton Cheney’s $6 T wasted on invading the wrong country only exploded oil prices 10-fold from $12-$14/brl in 2000, to 2008’s U.S. record $147/brl, creating the obvious Democrat foretold power vacuum that delivered global ‘record low everything since (R) Hoover’s Great Depression!’

      Your Big oil addicted fear mongers exploit conservatives genetic deficiencies for their own profit motives. Globally repeated peer reviewed studies long ago confirmed: Conservatives have a larger ‘fear center’ in their brain, at the expense of smaller hope and optimism glands. “Amygdalas are responsible for fear and other “primitive” emotions. At the same time, conservatives’ brains were also found to have a smaller anterior cingulate — the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.” http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/28/conservatives-fear-center-brain/ Tommy below is correct. Cons derided every green technology and MPG fuel economy increase delivering 54 MPG average by 2022 via the Obama Admins ‘Conservation’ that now exports more U.S. oil than we import for the first time in decades. We no longer need middle east oil, or Cheney’s Greedy Oil Party cronies.

      • Obewon August 29th, 2014 at 18:10

        You linked “Global Climate Scam .com” as your source! Lol! In reality “There were 133 ‘death ray’-heat caused DESERT bird deaths of 321 “avian fatalities” in the first half of this year at the 392-megawatt Ivanpah (BrightSource Primm, Ca.)-Via Bloomberg linked below proving how far off-base you faux news fed fools are. Vs the actual story facts: “— in the US alone — between 365 million and 988 million birds are killed every year by crashing into windows!”-3 of 3 below:

        1) Big Oil spills & kills the most humans, and millions of birds annually. USA building walls & windows kill up to 1 B birds each year.. ABC’s George Will’s delusions were debunked long ago by everyone, including nonpartisan Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/may/03/checking-george-will-birds-and-wind-turbines/ “The American Bird Conservancy estimated in 2003 that between 10k and 40k birds were killed each year at wind farms across the country,” -2) That’s why L.E.D. lighting is now used on wind turbines for anti-aircraft lighting, because insect-bird-food is no longer attracted to L.E.D. non-infrared wavelengths, dramatically decreasing bird strikes.

        Meanwhile each year Big Oil Spills & Kills humans and millions of birds and animals e.g. Deep Water Horizon’s 220 M gallons Gulf-oil spill, ExXon Valdez, etc.

        3 of 3) “While it might sound like BrightSource has created some kind of bird-blasting death ray, it’s important to keep things in perspective. Back in January, it was estimated that — in the US alone — between 365 million and 988 million birds are killed every year by crashing into windows. We’re mostly talking about domestic, low-rise windows, too — not skyscrapers. Likewise, a study last year showed that domestic cats — yes, your beloved Fluffy — are killing more than a billion birds per year in the US.” http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188328-californias-new-solar-power-plant-is-actually-a-death-ray-thats-incinerating-birds-mid-flight

        • Obewon August 29th, 2014 at 18:47

          I & Politifact preemptively debunked your WSJ, et al long ago proving you’re a Big Oil 1 M+ annual bird killing hypocrite e.g.

          A) Solar Power Poses Lower Risk to Birds Than Cats or Cars 8/14/14 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-21/solar-power-poses-lower-risk-to-birds-than-cats-or-cars.html “There were 321 “avian fatalities” in the first half of this year at the 392-megawatt Ivanpah (BrightSource Primm, Ca.) solar project in Southern California, according to a statement Aug. 19 from NRG Energy Inc. (NRG), which co-owns and operates it. Of those, 133 were scorched by heat produced by the plant.”

          B) Canada Ranks Top Bird Killers, Wind Turbines Not Even Close To The Top http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/31/canada-ranks-top-bird-killers-wind-turbines-even-close-top/

          Canada-Only List of Top Bird Killers (via CBC):

          1. Domestic and feral cats: 200 million
          2. Power lines, collisions and electrocutions: 25 million
          3. Collisions with houses or buildings: 25 million
          4. Vehicle collisions: 14 million
          5. Game bird hunting: 5 million
          6. Agricultural pesticides 2.7 million
          7. Agricultural mowing:2.2 M young birds, equivalent to 1 M adult birds
          8. Commercial forestry: 1.4 M nests, equivalent to 900k adult birds
          9. Communications towers: 220,000 http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/9-leading-causes-of-bird-deaths-in-canada-1.1873654

          • mea_mark August 29th, 2014 at 21:30

            I was wondering if a thin ring of mirrors at the top of a solar concentrating tower reflecting out away from the tower could be used to blind birds before they got to close. Just an idea I had very early this morning before I got up. Almost forgot about it but this reminded me to say something. Any Ideas?

            • Obewon August 29th, 2014 at 21:48

              Dejavu:) Birds are scared away from wind and solar by Loud Noisemakers (many look like owls), moving bird nests, silhouettes of scarecrows and hawks, you can further install flashing lights and balloons with pictures of big eyes. However, it is important to change the visual devices at regular intervals to avoid making these stationary enough for the birds to get used to these devices.

              Radar (microwave) signals emitted are also effective in keeping certain types of birds away. For instance, the sound generated by radar signals is effective in driving away bats from the area around the wind turbines, etc. http://www.alekogreenenergy.com/articles.asp?ID=269

            • Obewon August 29th, 2014 at 21:54

              A thin ring of mirrors at the top of a solar tower is a Great Idea Mark! Wind driven reflectors similar to a disco-ball surface are used to scare away birds.

              Here’s something nearly identical to your better idea. -Holographic bird tape flashes blinding light & makes noise when it flaps in the wind. This multi-sensory attack scares birds away from the treated area. ->Sunlight reflects off the material, disorienting & irritating birds Sharp, metallic clacking sounds are made when tape flaps in the wind Easy to install, very simple & effective solution. Bird tape is often used in farms, vineyards & other agricultural applications. http://www.bird-x.com/irri-tape-products-52.php?page_id=61#sthash.j9WbTIND.dpuf Also known as Flash Tape, Foil Tape, Bird Tape, Repeller Ribbon, Mirror Tape, Reflective Tape, Mylar Tape, Holographic Tape, & many others, this product has been used for years.

        • mea_mark August 29th, 2014 at 21:24

          I deleted the link because it is not a good source.

          • Obewon August 29th, 2014 at 21:51

            Here’s another effective bird life saving countermeasure:)
            Using wind, sunlight, and a little ingenuity, the WhirlyBird Repeller’sconstantly changing patterns offer a simple, safe, and effective combination of methods to scare birds away. Shaped like a peregrine falcon, the WhirlyBird Repeller catches prevailing wind, and its motion, sounds, and reflections work to keep pest birds away and change birds’ roosting and perching habits. http://www.whirlybirdrepeller.com/

        • FNLED August 29th, 2014 at 23:28

          ” you seem to make up your own data to suit your ideology.”

          You just made that up.
          Why are you lying?

      • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:16

        So don’t use thermal solar and be sure to set the speed on wind turbines high enough that birds aren’t flying when the wind’s at that speed… simple. Meanwhile what do you plan to do about the climate change we’ve already got happening that’s going to kill a lot more birds in the end than a few alt-energy plants are doing now?

    • Abby Normal August 29th, 2014 at 07:07

      Here’s a plan. Go over and fight ISIS yourself. We’ll cheer you on.

      • Tammy Minton Haley August 29th, 2014 at 12:25

        hellz, yeah! Go You, Robot, You!

    • fancypants August 29th, 2014 at 22:54

      maybe we should have taken Donald trumps advise ? ” we should have taken that oilfield for ourselves so isis would not have it today “

  8. NW10 August 29th, 2014 at 07:51

    http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/jimmy-carter-president-quote-republicans-are-men-of-narrow-vision-who.jpg

  9. (((NW10,PATRIOT! ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ))) August 29th, 2014 at 07:51

    http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors6/jimmy-carter-president-quote-republicans-are-men-of-narrow-vision-who.jpg

  10. TheNeedle August 29th, 2014 at 08:00

    Fantasies about the beheading of anyone who disagrees with them, mocking someone’s appearance rather than dealing with the issue, attacking positions the speaker never took, and of course, the old standby “you’ll never criticize your king Obama” that these drooling lackwits trot out whenever they can’t think of anything intelligent to say, which is always…yep, wingnuttery in its full glorious flower.

  11. TheNeedle August 29th, 2014 at 08:00

    Fantasies about the beheading of anyone who disagrees with them, mocking someone’s appearance rather than dealing with the issue, attacking positions the speaker never took, and of course, the old standby “you’ll never criticize your king Obama” that these drooling lackwits trot out whenever they can’t think of anything intelligent to say, which is always…yep, wingnuttery in its full glorious flower.

  12. TheNeedle August 29th, 2014 at 08:05

    BTW, I didn’t watch the whole clip. Does Gutfield ever come out and say “yes. I want to send American combat troops back to Iraq and send them to Syria as well?” Because that’s the question they need to answer. Yes or no? None of this blathering about “failed leadership” and ‘existential threats.” Do you want another Iraq War, Mr. Gutfield? Simple yes or no. They’ll do everything they can to avoid answering that, because they know the american people aren’t going to back sending our sons and daughters back over there.

  13. TheNeedle August 29th, 2014 at 08:05

    BTW, I didn’t watch the whole clip. Does Gutfield ever come out and say “yes. I want to send American combat troops back to Iraq and send them to Syria as well?” Because that’s the question they need to answer. Yes or no? None of this blathering about “failed leadership” and ‘existential threats.” Do you want another Iraq War, Mr. Gutfield? Simple yes or no. They’ll do everything they can to avoid answering that, because they know the american people aren’t going to back sending our sons and daughters back over there.

  14. Jake August 29th, 2014 at 08:06

    Greater love hath no Republican than to lay down the lives of your sons and daughters for their corporate interests.

  15. PunkAssPro August 29th, 2014 at 08:30

    I happen to agree with Alan on ISIS. However, i consider myself a PUTZ too.

  16. PunkedUrAss August 29th, 2014 at 08:30

    I happen to agree with Alan on ISIS. However, i consider myself a PUTZ too.

  17. Denise August 29th, 2014 at 09:08

    We don’t have a hard time identifying evil. Here’s a sample of what I consider evil: cheney, bush, ashcroft, rice, the kkk, all white supremacist, hamas, the taliban, isis, all terrorists organizations, be they domestic or international, pedophiles, westboro church, oat robertson, fox news..

    • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 10:47

      You care to explain how Bush, Ashcroft, Cheney and Rice are evil? The last I heard, they were on our side, regardless if you liked their politics or not.

      • Tammy Minton Haley August 29th, 2014 at 12:13

        well, aside from lying to get the US involved in a war, i just reckon they were all sunshine and unicorn farts!

        • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 12:53

          You mean a war approved by Congress.

          • Tammy Minton Haley August 29th, 2014 at 13:43

            no, i mean lying about the WMD’s to congress and the UN and the nation to justify an unnecessary invasion of a sovereign country…THAT lie

          • cecilia August 29th, 2014 at 15:54

            well, I didn’t approve. Congress should pay more attention to me

        • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 17:50

          The war approved by Congress?

          • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:12

            Any other time you’d condemn Congress as a bunch of corrupt do-nothings out to make their lobbyists happy but not much else.

            So we’re supposed to be impressed now that they approved a war that Bush lied to get us into. Okay.

      • Hogandda August 29th, 2014 at 14:14

        Last time I heard, Obama is on our side regardless of whether you like his politics or not.

        • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 18:33

          That is questionable. If he was, he would enforce all the laws he swore to uphold, not just the ones he likes.

          • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:13

            Enforcement of federal law is the job of the FBI, not the Executive Branch. But while we’re getting into selective observance of the Constitution, how about Bush’s 14th Amendment right to be elected President. (Bush vs Gore?) I still don’t understand that one.

            • Robby August 30th, 2014 at 16:31

              I guess you didn’t read the 14th Amendment.

              As for the Bush vs. Gore, Gore tried unsuccessfully to disqualify ballots in the hope of winning, but the courts would have none of it.

              “The unspoken truth of the 2000 election dispute in Florida is always ignored by the left: Gore never led; not on election night, not after any statewide recount, not after adding the votes from county hand recounts, and not even in the exhaustive statewide post—election recounts conducted by the major state and national newspapers (in almost all of which Bush wound up ahead when any consistent method of counting was used.) Pick your method of counting chads, and it doesn’t matter. Bush won.”

              “The left likes to say that the United States Supreme Court gave the election to Bush. They did no such thing. What they did was reverse the Florida Supreme Court’s effort to keep on counting until Gore won. The U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Bush v Gore may not have been a model of jurisprudence, but the left also ignores the fact that the decision to over—rule the Florida Supreme Court was not a 5—4 decision dictated by the five conservative members of the Court, but a 7 to 2 decision. Even two liberals on the Court were offended by the machinations of the Florida court and its creation of a chaotic vote counting system for the ‘undervotes’.”
              Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/01/the_myth_of_the_stolen_electio.html#ixzz3BuRjq4iC
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          • Hogandda August 29th, 2014 at 23:41

            What laws hasn’t Obama upheld? How many laws did Bush, Reagan not uphold? Bush had signing statements impacting around 1,000 laws.

            • Robby August 30th, 2014 at 16:18

              Try these http://gopsuesobama.blogspot.com/

              If Bush didn’t enforce laws then he was wrong too. Why do you think that pointing to other bad behavior excuses Obama’s bad behavior?

            • Robby August 30th, 2014 at 16:39

              These for starters. http://gopsuesobama.blogspot.com/

              • Hogandda August 30th, 2014 at 17:05

                Sorry, but the ones on this list that are not just half-truths and innuendos, fall under the powers of the Executive branch to Administer. Almost all of these are just actions taken that you don’t like, they are not illegal actions. And, to believe that Obama personally directed all of these things is ludicrous. And, when you throw in Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, we all know this is just a witch hunt. All other Presidents have done similar things in their administrations.

                • mea_mark August 30th, 2014 at 17:06

                  I was just trying to decide whether or not I should delete his comment because of such a questionable link.

              • mea_mark August 30th, 2014 at 17:08

                You need to provide a better source than that. It’s far too questionable to be allowed here. In general we don’t allow right-wing links because we just don’t.

      • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:11

        Someone who is on my side doesn’t send my nation’s young people to die in a foreign country on the basis of lies just because they feel like it.

        Politics aren’t just an opinion. They translate to real-world action so YES, someone can be my enemy if they’ve got the wrong politics, regardless of their nationality. I value actions over legal fictions.

      • Elliot J. Stamler August 30th, 2014 at 03:25

        I agree…except in the case of Cheney. His record is one of deceit, deception, manipulation and malice. The other three comprise two incompetents and an ultra-right wing social conservative.

  18. Denise August 29th, 2014 at 09:08

    We don’t have a hard time identifying evil. Here’s a sample of what I consider evil: cheney, bush, ashcroft, rice, the kkk, all white supremacist, hamas, the taliban, isis, all terrorists organizations, be they domestic or international, pedophiles, westboro church, oat robertson, fox news..

    • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 10:47

      You care to explain how Bush, Ashcroft, Cheney and Rice are evil? The last I heard, they were on our side, regardless if you liked their politics or not.

      • Tammy Minton Haley August 29th, 2014 at 12:13

        well, aside from lying to get the US involved in a war, i just reckon they were all sunshine and unicorn farts!

        • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 12:53

          n

          • Tammy Minton Haley August 29th, 2014 at 13:43

            no, i mean lying about the WMD’s to congress and the UN and the nation to justify an unnecessary invasion of a sovereign country…THAT lie

          • cecilia August 29th, 2014 at 15:54

            well, I didn’t approve. Congress should pay more attention to me

        • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 17:50

          The war approved by Congress?

          • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:12

            Any other time you’d condemn Congress as a bunch of corrupt do-nothings out to make their lobbyists happy but not much else.

            So we’re supposed to be impressed now that they approved a war that Bush lied to get us into. Okay.

      • Hogandda August 29th, 2014 at 14:14

        Last time I heard, Obama is on our side regardless of whether you like his politics or not.

        • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 18:33

          That is questionable. If he was, he would enforce all the laws he swore to uphold, not just the ones he likes.

          • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:13

            Enforcement of federal law is the job of the FBI, not the Executive Branch. But while we’re getting into selective observance of the Constitution, how about Bush’s 14th Amendment right to be elected President. (Bush vs Gore?) I still don’t understand that one.

          • Hogandda August 29th, 2014 at 23:41

            What laws hasn’t Obama upheld? How many laws did Bush, Reagan not uphold? Bush had signing statements impacting around 1,000 laws.

      • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:11

        Someone who is on my side doesn’t send my nation’s young people to die in a foreign country on the basis of lies just because they feel like it.

        Politics aren’t just an opinion. They translate to real-world action so YES, someone can be my enemy if they’ve got the wrong politics, regardless of their nationality. I value actions over legal fictions.

      • Elliot J. Stamler August 30th, 2014 at 03:25

        I agree…except in the case of Cheney. His record is one of deceit, deception, manipulation and malice. The other three comprise two incompetents and an ultra-right wing social conservative.

  19. vinceNYC August 29th, 2014 at 10:26

    As far as I know Isis has no navy no airforce and is ZERO threat to the US

    • R.J. Carter August 29th, 2014 at 10:28

      I believe they now have an airbase.

    • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 10:44

      We can defend against a Navy or Air-Force attack. It is bombers like those at the Boston Marathon who can kill thousands without being detected until it is too late.

      One reason we have trouble detecting them is because of our basic liberties and the fear of offending someone by profiling.

      • R.J. Carter August 29th, 2014 at 10:52

        ISIS does solve one problem we’ve had with this kind of terrorist extremism: if they fully establish the Islamic State, they’ve finally put a flag on the ideology.

      • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:10

        Profiling is not about offense. Arresting someone who hasn’t done anything wrong and then failing to grant them due process does a hell of a lot more bad to them than just hurting their feelings.

        Considering that by number of attacks AND number of people killed we have been a lot more endangered by white Christians throughout our history than by Muslims, we’re chasing down the wrong bugaboo ANYWAY.

        (I count such actions as genocide against Native Americans and lynching of blacks in that number. Of course, YOU might not see those people as human or as entitled to live on this land so we might differ on that count.)

        • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 22:10

          What planet are you from? You really think our most present danger is from white Christians?

          Here is a chart showing Islamic killings. Show me the one that shows Christians were much worst.
          http://markhumphrys.com/islam.killings.html#historical

          • Obewon August 29th, 2014 at 23:33

            Here are two. Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t. http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

            2) Terrorism Directed At ‘Liberal’ And ‘Government’ Targets Since July 2008-2011 http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/violence-directed-liberal-and-govern

            • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 23:59

              Talk about unreliable sources, you choose two wide left ones and expect rational thinking people to believe them.

              You suck up to the Muslims and I’ll hang with the Christians and we’ll see how it works out. Are you prepared to convert or die?

              • Obewon August 30th, 2014 at 00:31

                You deride the linked “FBI” and “Europol” original sources as “left”-Lol. You’ll be wormfood via natural causes, long before you accurately post anything.

                • Chinese Democracy August 30th, 2014 at 00:57

                  Everyone that listens to Glenn Beck knows the FBI is “wide left”. Why else would they investigate civil rights violations in Ferguson ? Duh

                  • Obewon August 30th, 2014 at 01:08

                    Gohmert’s terror babies are gonna explode anytime now! That’s why Limbaugh’s ratings are in a free fall amid 4 new stations dumping Rusty the racist in July, alone.

                    • Chinese Democracy August 30th, 2014 at 01:22

                      lol .. right on the front page Gohmert terror baby explodes! Limbaugh cant scrape up any attention. I think hes no. 59 in Los Angeles

                      He could go to the net like Palin . I saw her do the ALS challenge. If only the bucket where full of lighter fluid.

                    • Obewon August 30th, 2014 at 01:38

                      First Human Trials of Ebola Vaccine Start Next Week! The National Institutes of Health will sponsor the first trial of the vaccine, one of several being developed against Ebola. It’s fast-tracked the testing because of the outbreak of Ebola that is ravaging three West African countries. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/first-human-trials-ebola-vaccine-start-next-week-n190716 BBC News on NPR/PBS has widely reported these. I’ll bet FNC has zip because parania fear mongers don’t like cures.

                • Robby August 30th, 2014 at 10:18

                  I see you’re playing stupid again, and it looks like you are winning. I was referring to the loonies and crooks sites.
                  Good luck with your new found religion.

                  • Obewon August 30th, 2014 at 11:12

                    So why can’t you debunk those “Stupid” FBI & Eurpol facts? D’oh!

                    • Robby August 30th, 2014 at 16:06

                      I love it, the site you provided showed attacks by left wing groups and none by right wing groups. ☺

                      My point is, the largest number of deaths caused by terrorist acts have been committed by radical Islamic groups. i.e. 9/11

                      Check this site, it has some good detail on terrorist activity around the world. http://fas.org/irp/threat/nctc2011.pdf

                    • mea_mark August 30th, 2014 at 17:16

                      I didn’t find that chart in the link you provided. Are you playing games.

                    • mea_mark August 30th, 2014 at 17:43

                      Hopefully “Always Right” will stay gone this time. He tried to reincarnate as Robby. Banned again.

              • Chinese Democracy August 30th, 2014 at 01:01

                What is more dangerous? A Muslim or an undocumented kid purposely infecting Americans with ebola? Or what about anchor babies?! Do you mean Christians like Timothy McVeigh?

                Dont forget to check under your bed tonight

                • Obewon August 30th, 2014 at 01:13

                  Andy:) Self-hating “anchor babies” like Michelle Malkin infections are far worse than ebola! We have a new ebola vaccine and ZMapp retrovirus treatments. Any Malkin contact is still fatal.

                  • Chinese Democracy August 30th, 2014 at 01:25

                    If contact with Malkin isnt fatal your IQ will still drop into single digits. The next thing you know.. you will be calling the Limbaugh show. heh

                    Good news about the vaccine! Go Science!

                  • Elliot J. Stamler August 30th, 2014 at 03:31

                    The differences between Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter are: first, Ms. Malkin looks like a woman and is one; second, Ann Coulter does not look like a woman and I have serious doubts she is one; third, Michele Malkin is scurrilous but Ann Coulter is even more scurrilous.

      • fancypants August 29th, 2014 at 22:50

        if you have a problem with freedom ? im sure their are plenty of other countries who will take you in.

        • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 23:56

          What are you talking about?

    • Elliot J. Stamler August 30th, 2014 at 03:14

      Neither did Al Quaida, s–t for brains.

  20. vinceNYC August 29th, 2014 at 10:26

    As far as I know Isis has no navy no airforce and is ZERO threat to the US

    • R.J. Carter August 29th, 2014 at 10:28

      I believe they now have an airbase.

    • Robby August 29th, 2014 at 10:44

      We can defend against a Navy or Air-Force attack. It is bombers like those at the Boston Marathon who can kill thousands without being detected until it is too late.

      One reason we have trouble detecting them is because of our basic liberties and the fear of offending someone by profiling.

      • R.J. Carter August 29th, 2014 at 10:52

        ISIS does solve one problem we’ve had with this kind of terrorist extremism: if they fully establish the Islamic State, they’ve finally put a flag on the ideology.

      • Dana August 29th, 2014 at 21:10

        Profiling is not about offense. Arresting someone who hasn’t done anything wrong and then failing to grant them due process does a hell of a lot more bad to them than just hurting their feelings.

        Considering that by number of attacks AND number of people killed we have been a lot more endangered by white Christians throughout our history than by Muslims, we’re chasing down the wrong bugaboo ANYWAY.

        (I count such actions as genocide against Native Americans and lynching of blacks in that number. Of course, YOU might not see those people as human or as entitled to live on this land so we might differ on that count.)

      • fancypants August 29th, 2014 at 22:50

        if you have a problem with freedom ? im sure their are plenty of other countries who will take you in.

    • Elliot J. Stamler August 30th, 2014 at 03:14

      Neither did Al Quaida, s–t for brains.

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