President-elect-Donald J. Trump
Click here for reuse options!In one of the most shocking U.S. elections in modern political history, Donald Trump has defeated Hillary Clinton.
“I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all Americans,” Trump said in his victory speech after the Associated Press called the race for him at 2:30 am Wednesday morning. Striking a conciliatory tone, Trump continued, “For those who have chosen not to support me in the past, of which there were a few people, I’m reaching out to you for your guidance and your help so we can work together and unify our great country.”
He also said Hillary Clinton had called him to concede the race. “Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country,” he said. “I mean that very sincerely.”
Trump’s upset was one he had been predicting for months, gleefully comparing himself to the Brexit vote in England. Yet it was one that almost no other major predictors foresaw, all giving Clinton various degrees of comfortable leads in their election day predictions.
“It was Donald Trump versus almost all the experts … it looks like Donald Trump was right,” Jake Tapper said on CNN at 10:40 pm on election night (before major battleground states had been called).
Copyright 2016 Liberaland
Henri Blanche November 9th, 2016 at 05:14
Whimper.
Gary Parillo November 9th, 2016 at 05:25
About 57 million people have just changed the course of history for the country and the world,by casting their vote tonight for a Trump presidency.If he implements all the policies he has declared,we can look forward to going decades backwards as far as social progress.With a majority of Repubs in every facet of government,where will any blocking restraints come from?The other day I wrote a comment and stated the GOP has seen its demise.I was wrong.From the depressing turn of events that occurred tonight,it would appear to be the opposite.The Democratic Party has taken a blow that will take a long time to recover from,and a long nightmare has just begun.
What worries me even more than Trump himself,are all the wackos and corrupt people he surrounds himself with with.He speaks of draining the swamp yet surrounds himself with swamp dwellers,Christy,Huckabee,Gingrich,etc.The Supreme Court will now fall into the hands of wacko religious conservatives,and the insane evangelical right will feel more emboldened than ever,as they will attribute his win to the “will of God.”I fear a long nightmare has just begun,and those 57 million will be responsible for the inevitable negative consequences that are likely to occur.
Red Mann November 9th, 2016 at 06:18
They will become the frogs in the ever warming water and won’t realize their horrendous mistake until it is too late.
The insane evangelical right virtually wrote the Republican platform, both David Barton and Tony Perkins had inputs. It reeks of repression and religion and, if carried out, would change our country in a very negative way.
Along with the religious freaks, white supremacists and racists of all stripes will also feel empowered, building on the egregious jury decision in Oregon.
Dwendt44 November 9th, 2016 at 12:21
The Republican platform easily aligns with the goals of the Third Reich the difference is only a matter of degrees. If that doesn’t scare the hell out of most folks, it certainly should.
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 08:03
All that you say is true Gary, but the dems have turned their back on the working class people also. And this is the result.
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 08:29
It was the royalty (oligarchy) in the democratic party that turned their back on the working class people. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her cohorts have brought down the democratic party in their attempt to prop up an oligarchal neoliberal queen.
amongoose November 9th, 2016 at 09:45
Like the repubs with Bob Dole, it was his turn.
Y’all picked Bill. Old and stale -v- young and fresh.
jybarz November 9th, 2016 at 05:35
America is already Great!
Electing this King Bozo as president by half of American Bozos will not change America’s greatness, it will just be a long 4y ahead fighting the Bozos from taking down America again…it happened before and again it’s always reversible…just tougher each time.
halfwayin November 9th, 2016 at 07:32
Michael Moore was right.
allison1050 November 9th, 2016 at 07:48
Now color me surprised, I’m glad I’m old since President Pendejo has won.
allison1050 November 9th, 2016 at 07:58
Shouldn’t US politics now be placed under the heading of Show Business?
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 08:01
If you are unsure what it is going to be like living under a rebub administration and congress, pick up a copy of Atlas Shrugged next time you are at your library.
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 08:02
Neoliberalism and the pawns of the oligarchy lost. The people wanted change the democratic royalty didn’t, change won. It’s time for all the people to sit down and decide what they really want because change is now coming. Trump is a bumbling bloviating demagogue but he does listen. It’s time to push for real changes that benefit the people more than the oligarchy. There is a silver lining here and we need to focus on that, the failing global neoliberalism that has been holding us back won’t anymore. We have an opportunity to head in a new direction, now is the time to voice your opinion on what that direction should be. Now, more than ever, we need to think positive, gather ourselves together and come up with a new direction.
It’s our country, not Trumps and we need to make sure he knows that through constant reminders.
eyelashviper November 9th, 2016 at 10:06
The people you refer to weren’t motivated by any ideology, but by fear and hatred, and the media gave Trump all the power he needed to whip them into a frenzy to strike back at big bad guvmint, the concept fostered by Reagan, and carefully nurtured by the GOP.
There was no rationality to the supporters of Trump, just blind rage, and it was evident when they all could completely discount his horrific behavior and believe any lie that he espoused.
Robert M. Snyder November 9th, 2016 at 11:23
This is not an American phenomenon. Similar things are happening in Europe. Trump scapegoated trade agreements and offshoring. He didn’t say much about automation, but I suspect that automation and robotics are affecting the job markets of all Western countries. Every country needs to figure out how to provide meaningful, rewarding jobs for non-college-educated people in a world where manufacturing jobs are being automated and the labor markets increasingly reward those with the greatest intellectual abilities. Think back to your earliest experiences in elementary school. It didn’t take long to realize that some kids were less intellectually gifted than others. For too long, our leaders have paid too little attention to the plight of the non-college-educated.
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 11:33
It’s time for a floor for everyone with a #basicincome.
Robert M. Snyder November 9th, 2016 at 13:18
Earned Income Credit, Welfare, WIC, Social Security, Disability, Medicare, Medicaid, Home Heating Assistance, ER’s required to treat everyone… It’s not as if there is NO support already.
I think that most able-bodied people would rather have a well-paying job than a handout. The well-educated are doing fine. It’s the less-well-educated who are worried about job security and financial security. For too long, the well-educated leaders of both parties have forgotten about the less-well-educated people who are working lousy hours for lousy pay in retail jobs. Trump paid attention to those people and accepted them as they are, warts and all, without speaking to them in a condescending manner.
I live in a rural county where only 13% of the people have a bachelor’s degree or higher. Nobody I know uses words like “misogynist”. When you speak to working-class people using words like that, you turn them off. Trump won non-college white women by a 3 to 1 margin. This election was not about gender. It was about social class. Too many politicians in both parties have been talking down to working-class people.
Joe Biden gets it. He would have been a formidable opponent to Trump, because Joe also accepts people as they are, warts and all. If Joe had run, this might have been a very different election.
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 14:12
All the support that is out there is means tested which is demeaning and it is full of holes and cracks that people fall through.
Basic income allows people to work at what they want to do, not just for survival, often doing something they don’t like doing.
I also live in a very rural area, in Texas. I have learned how to relate to the rural working class people and understand many of their issues.
Robert M. Snyder November 9th, 2016 at 15:00
“All the support that is out there is means tested which is demeaning”
Demeaning? Why? If I want a prescription drug, I can’t just go to the pharmacist and say “I need testosterone patches”. I have to visit a doctor and get a blood test to see whether I really have Low-T. Is that test demeaning? I don’t think so, as long as my data is kept private.
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 19:40
You obviously have never had to prove you are disabled or need help.
William November 9th, 2016 at 08:12
Watching the market tank is almost as painful as watching Cheeto-Hitler.
Gina Bousquet November 9th, 2016 at 08:36
I’m shocked beyond words, and scared…
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 08:43
The polls were so wrong. but my vote wasn’t.
What comes next ? A court hearing for fraud…unreal.
Gina Bousquet November 9th, 2016 at 09:08
It’s hard to understand what went wrong and what’s ahead…
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 09:15
It’s not really that hard. Hillary represents the oligarchy that doesn’t really care about the people, just managing them like sheeple. The people said no more. The dems could of embraced this change with Sanders but chose not to. Now they are going to have to work at the grassroots level to voice their feelings about what direction we should go. I don’t see this as all that bad. The neoliberal agenda of the oligarchy won’t hold us back anymore. It is just going to take more work.
Obewon November 9th, 2016 at 09:34
You don’t think DJT45 represents the oligarchs?
Those 5 M+ that didn’t vote, or didn’t listen have delivered Trump45. ‘This is no time for a protest vote’-(I-VT) Sanders endorsed, campaigned and voted for (D) HRC.
(D) 47.6% to (R) 47.5% is still just a single popular (R) POTUS vote win in 28-32 years. http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 09:38
The people that voted for Trump were voting against the oligarchy. The dems totally failed to take into account how much people are disappointed in the oligarchy. Trump may be oligarchy but his base isn’t and they don’t want oligarchal rule anymore.
Obewon November 9th, 2016 at 09:39
You sure let off easy FBI Dir (R) Comey’s Hatch Act charade!
R.J. Carter November 9th, 2016 at 10:19
I was thinking of you last night when Mo (not even gonna try to spell his last name without looking it up) on one of the panels last night said that the shift has gone from Right vs. Left to Bottom vs. Top, as indicated not just by the Trump election but also by the huge Bernie support. It’s a whole new ballgame.
Gina Bousquet November 9th, 2016 at 13:24
I agree with the points you make. But I really did not expect it to go so wrong. Now, working from grassroots level to change oligarchic structures is a darn hard route ahead of relentless work, for very brave fighters. :) You’ll have to change the times…
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 09:22
The poor stay poor and the rich get rich.
https://youtu.be/l5Fb4K8pNmg
Robert M. Snyder November 9th, 2016 at 11:10
That’s a very accurate description of the past 16 years.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/US_GDP_per_capita_vs_median_household_income.png/800px-US_GDP_per_capita_vs_median_household_income.png
Gina Bousquet November 9th, 2016 at 13:32
Everybody gets poorer, the very rich get richer… :)
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:43
It didn’t go wrong for the white nationalists.
They did vote for their best interests.
Gina Bousquet November 9th, 2016 at 13:37
That’s why I’m scared with what lays ahead. :)
Robert M. Snyder November 9th, 2016 at 11:03
The exit polls may provide some insight. Among non-college-educated white voters, Trump beat Clinton by a 72% to 23% margin. Among white non-college women, Trump beat Clinton by a 62% to 34% margin. As Paul Begala said last night, this was not about gender. It was about social class.
Gina Bousquet November 9th, 2016 at 13:40
It really seemed so. But they believe Trump will take care of them and do as promised, we know otherwise.
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 09:41
On the upside dear friend,
at least you don’t have to consider seeking political asylum ! ;)
Gina Bousquet November 9th, 2016 at 13:35
Very good point dear friend, because I once did, decades ago. :)
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 13:48
No country would want to take in an American now anyway.
I’ll save money not renewing my passport…
Have a splendid day Gina.
Gina Bousquet November 9th, 2016 at 14:03
You too my dear friend! :)
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 08:38
America has spoken…god help us.
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 09:35
I think the reaction by the democrats to the McGovern loss are now finally over. The push to the right by the democrats is over. Trying to suppress the left and not embracing those people was always problematic. I see a better future for the left and progressives after we get through this period of dramatic change.
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 09:38
Not for nothing there mark but…as I have said elsewhere, republicans getting control of SCOTUS will be a curse that will last for generations.
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 09:50
I am going to withhold judgement until Trump actually does something. Talk is cheap and he has been a lot of talk to get elected. Now that he has won, I want to see what he is actually going to do.
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:05
His message (what there was of it) did not change over the coarse of his entire campaign, barring any “Manchurian” malfeasants, it does not bode well. we’ll all see what happens, for sure.
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:47
He spent a year and a half telling us what he wants do.
Were you listening?
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:38
This may be a little more serious than we think.
There are lots of issues going to come up that we haven’t even thought of.
What do you think will happen if there is another mass shooting once he is in the oval office?
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:49
There are ramifications no doubt, but I can’t react to overload now.
There’s so much that will transpire unknown to all.
I refuse to be overwhelmed by fear and dread
of things that have not happen yet.
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 11:21
That would depend on who gets killed and by whom.
Willys41 November 9th, 2016 at 08:49
Well, with another republican in the White House we can look forward to economic decline if not a recession or a depression. It’s the inevitable outcome of republican financial malfeasance. Cut taxes, increase spending, watch the economy tank.
I don’t have anything in the market so ha ha ha!!!
crc3 November 9th, 2016 at 09:05
Murica is finished. The Repulsive/fascist party has won but this is not the end of our misery…only the beginning. The dumbing down of Murica is working like a charm for them. Uneducated and ill informed voters have put him in office. Too late for “buyer’s remorse”…no take backs…no do-overs. These are dangerous times and we can only hope Congress can stop him in his tracks but wait…they are Repulsive/fascists also so…we’re f*cked…
Tommie November 9th, 2016 at 09:26
I was not surprise, many people think like Trump but they never told people who they were voting for! That is why I don’t like the polls not very accurate!
Hirightnow November 9th, 2016 at 10:03
A friend of mine (Brazilian born,now U.S. citizen) told me this morning that basically what happened, happened, and that now it’s time to get together and support the POTUS. This guy did NOT like Trump in any way, shape, or form.
So I thought about that some, and decided that, no, not after the last eight years; it’s time to be just as obstructionist and hateful as they were, for better reasons.
I’m going to point out every time Trump’s promises fail to come through, I’m going to point out every lie, and I’m going to hate a person just for his skin color.
Orange is the new black, baby.
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:12
I’ll leave out the hate part but I’m with you 100%
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:20
Watch how all of a sudden the repubs will become anti filibuster.
crc3 November 9th, 2016 at 11:10
I’ll NEVER support Rump. NEVER. He can rot in h*ll. He’s not my president and I will never be persuaded to respect anything he does. A snake will enter the White House in January and his name is Rump. That is all!!
mea_mark November 9th, 2016 at 11:20
If Trump is convicted before he enters office, who really knows what will happen.
William November 9th, 2016 at 10:03
Cheer up. Republicans hate him as much as Dems. He’s not going to get money for a wall. He can’t dissolve trade deals. Heck, his own companies rely on foreign trade. His own daughter makes her fashion line overseas. he’s still got a bunch of baggage. He has investigations looming and court dates. Essentially he’s going to sit in the office, and his keepers will give him a cookie now and then. He’ll make speeches, but he’ll be on a short leash. He doesn’t understand government and the limits of the executive office. He doesn’t know presidents can’t simply throw political opponents in jail. When he forgets, his handlers will set him straight to avoid the embarrassment of Supreme Court intervention. He actually believes a President can dissolve a constitutional amendments. He even stated he was going to let his VP run things. He cannot legally do most of what he promised he would do, so relax. He’s like the no talent https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c596c0d3075538cf9ea36d7abcf2ca872e6192069e87080d43a4f66d7246a3b.jpg kid you had to let into the garage band because his dad had a nice garage. You gave him second rhythm guitar and turned his amp way down. As for me, I’m going to have fun with it….starting right now.
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:08
Thanks William that one was needed…badly. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b029c76378ea5eb0d17be0ae40b316f329298b08b0b47105020d3c5aaea4a82e.gif
eyelashviper November 9th, 2016 at 10:09
He is a narcissistic demagogue, with little impulse control, and now has a Goper Congress and an abundance of State Houses and Legislatures, and I don’t see much push back from any of them. We can see an undoing of ACA, environmental regulations, financial regulations, and packing of courts with right wing zealots. We the people have no power, nor any recourse within the system anymore.
William November 9th, 2016 at 10:15
I’m not worried about the courts. Now and then I like to remind people that a very conservative court ruled on Roe V Wade. Even Kennedy recognized the Constitution. The ACA will likely be overhauled. I’ve said all along it needs tweaking. The “I’m going to do this and that” on day one isn’t reality. Enjoy it. Imagine the letters to the White House…like Deer Mr. prezidint. you sed you were going to deport all them Mooslims, and there is still one living across the street from me”.
C’mon. Didn’t we enjoy Bushisms? Chin up, we’re Americans, we survived Bush, we can survive this.
eyelashviper November 9th, 2016 at 10:17
I hope you are right, but I see an unleashing of ugliness on all people who do not follow the Trump rules. His behavior at rallies was frightening to me.
William November 9th, 2016 at 10:22
There are no Trump “rules” There is the rule of law and the Constitution. Along with victory comes his responsibility to live up to his crazy campaign promises. About three weeks of briefings when he is told all the things he cannot legally do, will likely change him. Remember three years ago he was a democrat. Eight years ago, he was telling the world what a great President Hillary would be. I’ve never caved in to fear and paranoia, and I’m not about to start now. Wringing your hands, sobbing and crying over what a candidate MIGHT do if elected is a republican thing. Hang tough. It’s what Americans do.
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:25
You see that is the problem.
We have no idea what trump will try to do.
William November 9th, 2016 at 10:32
What’s the worst he can do? Invade the wrong country? He’s pliable and doesn’t have any real policies outside of promising outlandish crap to the Rubes. I don’t think he even knows enough to be dangerous.
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:33
He could sign the Ryan budget into law.
That’s enough to make things a lot worse for hard working people.
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:34
Dark imaginings will only bring you ulcers.
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:37
And you see reason to have light imaginings?
It is not so much what he can do or can’t do, it is the direction that counts. And will hurt.
Has trump ever done anything to help anyone beside himself?
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:43
well he did get his wife and other immigrants a job…
My only real worry is SCOTUS, but that’s for those yet to come.
The best I can do, is to say “I only dread one day at a time”.
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:48
hahahahahahahaha
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:51
I truly hope it helped….some ;)
Charles Schultz quoted that years ago.
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:55
I gotta admit it, that was a good one!
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:56
:)
Dwendt44 November 9th, 2016 at 12:05
We can hope that one of his SCOTUS picks is an Earl Warren type.
eyelashviper November 9th, 2016 at 10:25
If I believe that there was an iota of responsibility and determination to actually govern, it would be an entirely different matter, but he is at heart a narcissist, with no core values, an impulsive and explosive temper, and a need for constant attention.
The first issue that he has pledged to do is to undermine the ACA, which will have devastating results for millions of Americans.
I agree about being tough, but the power that he can wield can do great damage to us all.
anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:31
I think the first thing the repub executive, congress and senate will do is pass the Ryan budget. And it will pass and be signed into law.
Cuts in SS and medicare and huge tax cuts for the 1%
In other words tickle down on steroids.
R.J. Carter November 9th, 2016 at 10:16
“We the people have no power, nor any recourse within the system anymore.”
Welcome to my world. You’ll get used to it, and eventually we’ll switch places again, should we both live so long.
trees November 9th, 2016 at 10:18
I wish I could have been there with you…..
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crc3 November 9th, 2016 at 10:38
I respect you but I don’t have any faith in what you are saying. I don’t have any confidence in the system. It’s rigged for the 1%. The oligarchy will only expand and get stronger. The 99% will suffer like they (we) have never suffered before. If you believe that Rump won’t damage this country and the world, just wait. A Repulsive controlled Congress plus a certifiable Rump may bring us to severed relationships worldwide and to WWIII. Half of the country backs him and will fight for him until they realize they have been duped but it will be far too late. No my friend we are scr*wed…
john obrien November 9th, 2016 at 10:50
There’s always the dealt plaza solution
crc3 November 9th, 2016 at 11:25
It’s Dealey Plaza. It is not going to happen like that again because the president hasn’t ridden in an open car since JFK’s assassination….
Dwendt44 November 9th, 2016 at 12:00
The same ‘insurance’ that keep Bush alive is working here. No body ever would want Pence sitting in the big chair.
William November 9th, 2016 at 10:52
I agree with your worst case summary, but I do not agree with how we should react to it. I’m going to go irrelevant for a moment, but I compare all obstacles to my military training and experience. There were plenty of in flight emergencies. I didn’t wring my hands, cry “all is lost” or tell everyone we weren’t getting home. My crew always made as many landings as takeoffs. This is not the time to succumb to fear and “what ifs”. If we spend as much time, thought and effort on fixing this as whining about it, we’ll get through it. We always have we always will. Let calm prevail.
crc3 November 9th, 2016 at 11:20
Just a month ago Rump looked to have no chance then came the FBI and Comey (Republican) who swung the vote towards Rump even though there was no new evidence. Now I’m listening to Ryan PRAISING Rump. I see a strom coming and we won’t survive. Neither will the world…
William November 9th, 2016 at 13:18
Of course there is a storm coming. Trump still has his fake college trial to deal with. There are a dozen or so women getting ready to sue him. Trump already gave his deposition to the world in great detail as to just how and why he committed sexual assault. The DOJ has a warrant to look into his Russian connections. Ironically Hillary is devoid of any pending criminal charges or litigation. The GOP spent the last thirty years vetting her and came up with nothing. Trump on the other hand….Nixon resigned for doing a tiny fraction of what Trump did. Then there is the payoffs to the Florida AG. I’m pretty sure we are going to survive this. We’ve elected sh*tty presidents before and we survived. Ryan is simply a politician trying to save his job. Two days ago he wouldn’t even say Trumps name. Relax, don’t panic.
crc3 November 9th, 2016 at 14:04
So, if Rump is convicted what happens then? Pense becomes president? He could be even worse than Rump because he knows politics and has created some very bad problems for the state of Indiana….
William November 10th, 2016 at 08:52
Nothing happens then. It’s unlikely a republican held legislature will impeach their boy over something he did before he was president. What’s going to happen is Trump will try to de-bench judges who are presiding over his extensive lawsuit list. There will be lots of scandal. He’ll pardon Christie, and anyone involved in his Russian connection. By mid-term he’ll make Nixon look like a choir boy. Once a crook, always a crook. Enjoy the show, and remember, the majority of Americans still, don’t like him.
john obrien November 9th, 2016 at 10:49
Yes, I think so
Um Cara November 9th, 2016 at 10:05
Very disappointed in our country, most especially my fellow white men. I do take some small comfort that more voters wanted Hillary than Donald (though he is most definitely our president elect).
I’m feeling quite ill.
crc3 November 9th, 2016 at 11:29
I’m with you my friend…
trees November 9th, 2016 at 15:20
Disappointed in your fellow white men?
???
It’s politically correct nonsense to allow race or gender to be considered as relevant to ability. In order for equality to exist those two attributes would be inconsequential to deciding.
Further, white men did not discriminate against Hillary based on sex. They voted based on perceived ability and message. We now know that the Clinton camp is corrupt and incompetent. Hillary being provided debate questions in advance serving as just one example. The whole private email server saga being another.
She was simply not trustworthy.
Trump leaves much to be desired.
In the end, it was about the lesser of evils
Um Cara November 9th, 2016 at 21:59
It’s politically correct nonsense to allow race or gender to be
considered as relevant to ability. In order for equality to exist those
two attributes would be inconsequential to deciding.
I wouldn’t call it ‘politically correct’ (cons have ruined that word, it’s basically meaningless, it’s so often applied to so many different things) – but I totally agree that gender should not be relevant to ability.
Further, white men did not discriminate against Hillary based on sex.
I’d guess some did, but I never said anything about it & it’s not why I’m disappointed in them. I’m disappointed that they selected an incompetent, pig-ignorant, misogynistic sexual predator game show host to be our next president.
Trump leaves much to be desired.
Indeed, and I’m not a bit surprised you would feel that way. You and I probably dislike many of the same things about him.
In the end, it was about the lesser of evils
Bah. She’s not evil, she’s a moderate conservative, sure – but some of my best friends are moderate conservatives, and they aren’t evil either (and to be clear, neither are you or most Trump voters). Trump, on the other hand, IS evil & so is his running mate.
So the lesser of two evils didn’t win, the greater two evils won, and that’s in large part thanks to white men. Hence my disappointment in them.
trees November 11th, 2016 at 07:55
Hey!! How have you been?? Thank you for your thoughtful response, I had misunderstood your initial post. I’m not disappointed in the voters of either party, it wasn’t much of a choice, either way, and myself…
I abstained from voting.
I was in NYC late election eve. The mood on the street was shocked disbelief, with anger swirling under the surface.
It will be an interesting four years.
Anyway, hope you’re doing great and don’t let this election get you depressed. We have the ability in this country to change leadership, and so it however bad it seems now, it can be changed.
See you brother, take care, trees
William November 9th, 2016 at 10:15
Just sayin’ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d388f1baa4ee4143df1e34619c52047016318928a572dff4c255e965be423af9.jpg
trees November 9th, 2016 at 10:20
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anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:28
I hope you are pro filibuster.
And keep up your sense of humor.
trees November 9th, 2016 at 10:22
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anothertoothpick November 9th, 2016 at 10:27
How many white people did he call rapists? Murderers? Drug dealers?
ZERO!
And do you wonder why?
R.J. Carter November 9th, 2016 at 10:27
Canada didn’t ship them south?
William November 9th, 2016 at 10:30
Actually he was and he paid for it.
The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino $200,000 in 1992 because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine.
Google is your friend. Hang around, later on we’ll talk about the Justice department, rentals and consent decrees.
oldfart November 9th, 2016 at 10:31
Actually he wasn’t called a racist until after he lost the unfair housing suit against him… but you wouldn’t care anyway.
jybarz November 9th, 2016 at 13:42
Haven’t seen you here for a long while I thought you died, but here you come out from under your rock just in time.
whatthe46 November 9th, 2016 at 17:25
that’s a damn lie!