Rampell: Why the white working class votes against itself

Posted by | December 22, 2016 19:46 | Filed under: Opinion Politics

They think they’re getting screwed because “the other” is getting more goodies than they are.

Maybe they believed any Big Government expansions would disproportionately go to the “wrong” kinds of people — that is, people unlike themselves…

But there seems to be universal agreement, at least among the Democratic politicians and strategists I’ve interviewed, that the party’s actual ideas are the right ones.

Democrats, they note, pushed for expansion of health-insurance subsidies for low- and middle-income Americans; investments in education and retraining; middle-class tax cuts; and a higher minimum wage. These are core, standard-of-living improving policies. They would do far more to help the economically precarious — including and especially white working-class voters — than Donald Trump’s top-heavy tax cuts and trade wars ever could…

Across rural America, the Rust Belt, Coal Country and other hotbeds of Trumpism, voters have repeatedly expressed frustration that the lazy and less deserving are getting a bigger chunk of government cheese.

In Kentucky, consumers receiving federal subsidies through the Obamacare exchanges complain that neighbors who are less responsible are receiving nearly free insurance through Medicaid.,,

In Ohio, white working-class focus group participants decried that women who “pop out babies like Pez dispensers with different baby daddies” get “welfare every month” and “their housing paid for, their food.” These women seem to live large, one participant said, while people like herself are “struggling to put food on the table.”

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90 responses to Rampell: Why the white working class votes against itself

  1. Obewon December 22nd, 2016 at 20:02

    Racist RWNJ white working class try to rationalize their voting straight Bankrupt KKK ticket. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/225a6d9f741f866d19cf7f6d3f9a653afead23050131167fc3ba7aaca2e721cc.jpg

    • Larry Schmitt December 22nd, 2016 at 22:29

      He has claimed from the beginning what a great businessman he is. But how good can you be if you can’t even make a casino work? You’re running a place where people are willingly throwing money at you, and you run it into the ground. Multiple times. Great businessman my Aunt Fanny.

      • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2016 at 00:55

        could you get the IRS to write you a check for $1,000,000,000.oo ?

        hell, that would be like 100,000 families getting $10,000.oo for making bad investment decisions.

        trump = > 100,000 families to the government run by big corporations.

  2. Matthew Hively December 22nd, 2016 at 21:03

    So much for christian values. This makes it sound like they are more focused on preventing the “undeserving” from getting anything rather than helping themselves.

    • Hirightnow December 22nd, 2016 at 21:09

      They seem to skip the book of Matthew on their way to read about those two Corinthians.
      (Specifically, Chapter 25)

      • StoneyCurtisll December 22nd, 2016 at 21:18

        Two Corinthians~!

      • Red Mann December 22nd, 2016 at 23:02

        They also ignore this:

        1 Timothy
        6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
        6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows

        And this:

        Matthew 6
        6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
        6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
        6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
        6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
        6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
        6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
        6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
        6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

        And a whole lot of other directions from their own book.

        • Hirightnow December 22nd, 2016 at 23:16

          Wait…I don’t need to hold my hands in the air, pray loudly, and sway back and forth for God to hear me?
          Next you’ll be telling me that I’m not supposed to enforce Jesus’ rule about saying “Merry Christmas” at Starbucks!
          (jk; 6:1 is one of my favorites)

          • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2016 at 00:47

            if you MUST say merry christmas, then why didn’t Jesus or the 12 guys he always hung out with ever say it?

            be interested in knowing when the very first merry christmas was spoken, and by whom?

            • fahvel December 23rd, 2016 at 12:36

              silly gramps, they didn’t have the right trees and lights back then -it was a bunch of guys and erased gals sitting around with wine bread and cheese.

    • whatthe46 December 22nd, 2016 at 22:12

      your comment makes this https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42abb5949428dae6af267936e0340dba6beee401159d87c2ebe03355a3d089dc.jpg the perfect place to post this meme.

    • La Tijera December 22nd, 2016 at 22:57

      The answer to the articles question is years of propaganda from AM radio and FOX news pushing a radical right wing agenda have brainwashed the masses. Truth is dead. Lies are facts. They won.

    • Jack E Raynbeau December 23rd, 2016 at 00:40

      That’s exactly what it is.

  3. StoneyCurtisll December 22nd, 2016 at 21:18

    Trump loved the poorly educated….


    • Aids Skrillex December 23rd, 2016 at 12:40

      Trump was mocking condescending liberals and of course, it sailed right over your head

  4. Budda December 22nd, 2016 at 21:38

    Poorly informed ditto heads. Can’t fix stupid.

    • Suzanne McFly December 22nd, 2016 at 21:41

      If we properly funded education in the red states we could fix stupidity.

      • Larry Schmitt December 22nd, 2016 at 21:51

        We could fix ignorance, but only if they are willing to listen. Stupid is a matter of choice.

        • whatthe46 December 22nd, 2016 at 22:13

          ding, ding, ding.

        • Suzanne McFly December 22nd, 2016 at 22:19

          Ugh Larry, you just couldn’t let it slide this one time could you lol.

      • whatthe46 December 22nd, 2016 at 22:19

        here’s the perfect example of his supporters being poorly educated.

        • Larry Schmitt December 22nd, 2016 at 22:31

          He will set the Precedent for being a bad President.

          • Suzanne McFly December 22nd, 2016 at 22:46

            He has already done that and he isn’t even in office yet.

  5. TKList December 22nd, 2016 at 22:48

    Big government is owned by the wealthy and paid for by the middle class and poor one way or another. The tax code is manipulated by the wealthy; cost to comply is paid by consumers through higher prices. It increases lobbyists, corrupts politicians and increases difficulty of entry for competition, which causes less employment opportunities for workers and higher prices.

    Excessive regulation increases cost for consumers, decreases job opportunities, corrupts politicians, increases lobbyists and increases difficulty of entry for competition. National debt: $154,000 cost per household paid by the consumer not the rich, through higher prices or lower standard of living. Federal Reserve: low interest loans for wealthy and connected, by the time it reaches lower rungs, rates higher, prices higher, including CEO pay – increasing the inequality gap.

    We have more socialism now than the liberal left’s golden age of the 1950s. We have the FHA, HUD, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, Community Reinvestment Act, Social Security, Medicare, Student Loan Programs, Obamacare/ACA, Snap Program, Earned Income Tax Credit, Unemployment Insurance Program and more. So the theory is false and the opposite is true. Socialism hurts the middle class. Big government equals more income inequality, smaller government equals less income inequality.

    The national debt keeps increasing because of deals, aka compromises, between Democrats (social programs and entitlements) and Republicans (corporate welfare and defense). The middle class pays the heaviest burden for the debt; as it goes up, it further increases the inequality gap by lowering their standard of living. National Debt: $19 trillion costs or is financed by each household, who is ultimately responsible for that debt. This comes out to $154,000 per household if paid for in one lump sum. Financed for 15 years at 5% interest it would take a monthly payment of $1218. Do not be fooled each household pays this one way or another, not the rich; whether you pay it directly in taxes and fees, higher prices or by a lower standard of living than you would otherwise have if the government had not spent that money. That is on top of around $26,000 per household for the yearly federal spending. Which is a another $2166 per month. Total $3400 per month per household. The question is: Is your household getting its money’s worth?

    Politicians promise you a fantasy land, that they can make your life golden by decree, raise your pay, give you free education, free health care, paid retirement, cheap housing, easy credit and protect you from the evils of the greedy businessman. In reality they can do nothing of the sort.

    To give you anything they have to take something from you, do not be fooled when they say they will take it from the rich, the rich get it from you (increased prices), in the end it always comes from you. Politicians point at the rich guy as they pick your pocket. They are selling you an illusion that does more harm than good, because in the process they disrupt the free flow and balance of the market causing unintended consequences.

    Politicians that promise to fix your life by taxing the greedy rich to cover the cost are really the sleaziest of middlemen that are selling you pixie dust while they take their cut, which is power.

    • Obewon December 22nd, 2016 at 23:19

      Actually the 14th A “public debt” is a mere $14 T.
      In 2010 U.S. assets were $230 T. Before U.S. stock market averages doubled and tripled via BHO44 / Dems $100 B per year, five year private jobs stimulus, reversing Bush Jr’s 12/07 Great Recession record low everything since (R) Hoover’s Great Depression.

      Investing in Science maintains $1 of every $4 spent on Earth, is spent within USA’s borders: NIF & Photon Science postdoctoral researcher Leily Kiani tests a new optical fiber that could double the bandwidth of fiber-optic cables. Credit: Jason Laurea (Download Image) Researchers develop new amplifier that could double the capacity of fiber-optic cables. More than 3.4 billion people are connected to the Internet, placing ever-increasing demand on the telecom industry to provide bigger, better and faster bandwidth to users. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) researchers have taken an important step in addressing that need by developing a new type of optical fiber amplifier that could potentially double the information-carrying capacity of fiber-optic cables. https://www.llnl.gov/news/researchers-develop-new-amplifier-could-double-capacity-fiber-optic-cables https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/617709f18a78574493ebde4b68efa79db05e86ad703cdb72c7f0d1b9907d9d0f.jpg

      • TKList December 22nd, 2016 at 23:33

        Seen vs the unseen.

        • Obewon December 22nd, 2016 at 23:36

          How about an adult response to the facts debunking you, repubs, trump et al?

          • TKList December 22nd, 2016 at 23:37

            Learn what it means.

            • Obewon December 22nd, 2016 at 23:38

              Figure it out. You’ve been scammed and are way in over your head. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a70b3291560cf9c3cd21dbca66ca8cb79296f82e2ada833802891663f71dd093.jpg

              • TKList December 22nd, 2016 at 23:46

                Government is about half the health insurance market with Medicare, Medicaid and the VA. This is why the health insurance market is not functioning like a normal market in any other industry.

                Get government out of the health insurance business as much as possible. Limit them to limited regulation and financial support for health insurance to those who need it.

                Obamacare, Medicaid, Medicare and VA hospitals should be phased out. People under these programs and those who are financially below the poverty level should be given a yearly amount that they could use to purchase health insurance.

                Keep the federal regulation stating that insurance companies have to cover pre-existing conditions as long as the person had previous insurance.
                Allow people to purchase insurance from any state. Deregulate state health insurance markets. Unhinge medical insurance from employers in the tax code.

                Getting government out and increasing competition in this way will lower health insurance costs. It cuts the bureaucracy costs, cuts the fraud costs and improves competition and quality of care.

                Why not do financial support for health insurance the same way we do financial support for food?

    • Hirightnow December 22nd, 2016 at 23:30

      Seems to me you just stated that these “rich businessmen” will screw the poor no matter what.
      In which case, taxing them at least puts money in the government coffers.

      • SteveD December 24th, 2016 at 01:09

        Higher taxes upon the rich would lower GINI ratio (reduce the Gap between rich & the rest)…of course the rich won’t let that happen…

        The federal government has no actual “coffers.”

        A Monetary Sovereign (the federal government) doesn’t need to save dollars-because it can CREATE dollars!

        Yes, the federal govt. has ledgers with credits/debits (which it can manipulate any way it wishes via Congressional approval) but those numbers aren’t yet dollars.

        The federal government creates all of its spending money ONLY at the time the appropriate federal agency instructs banks to increase the numbers in any recipient’s account and not a moment before.

        Federal tax dollars work in the exact opposite fashion-federal tax dollars act only as a device to reduce the money supply (one of several methods the federal govt. uses to prevent too much inflation)-our federal tax dollars don’t pay for anything!

        Conceivably, federal govt. (deficit) spending is limited only by an unacceptable level of inflation. Federal govt. spending is never limited by taxes collected nor by monies “borrowed.”

    • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 01:02

      “Big government is owned by the wealthy
      The tax code is manipulated by the wealthy”

      Well stop them then, I’ll wait.

    • anothertoothpick December 23rd, 2016 at 08:21

      When we had heavily regulated and taxed capitalism in the post-war era, the largest employer in America was General Motors, and they paid working people what would be, in today’s dollars, about $50 an hour with benefits. Reagan began deregulating and cutting taxes on capitalism in 1981, and today, with more classical “raw capitalism,” what we call “Reaganomics,” or “supply side economics,” our nation’s largest employer is WalMart and they pay around $10 an hour.

      History shows how important high taxes on the rich are for creating a strong middle class. If you compare a chart showing the historical top income tax rate over the course of the twentieth century with a chart of income inequality in the United States over roughly the same time period, you’ll see that the period with the highest taxes on the rich – the period between the Roosevelt and Reagan administrations – was also the period with the lowest levels of economic inequality.

      • TKList December 23rd, 2016 at 11:23

        Nonsense. They could get away with abusing the economy like that when the rest of the world was not producing anything and not competing. The world has changed, we are not the only producers anymore.

    • SteveD December 24th, 2016 at 00:00

      The Fed paid off over $94 TRILLION in federal debt in fiscal 2016…simply by debiting the securities accounts and crediting the reserve accounts of the applicable debt holders (mostly banks and the federal govt. itself)…The Fed could conceivably do this endlessly with not a “tax dollar” involved, ever.

      You can see this FACT for yourself right here on the website of the US Dept. of the Treasury (Daily Treasury Statement):


      The near exact total (rounded in MILLIONS) of debt redemptions for Fiscal 2016, ending Sept. 30, 2016 was $ 94,225,757,000,000.00 (Yes! over $94 TRILLION)—as indicated on TABLE III-A, Redemptions, Column 3, Line 12.

      The US federal government clawed back about $3.5 TRILLION in federal taxes in fiscal 2016…your notion that “taxpayers” are on the hook for federal debt just doesn’t wash…seems the “taxpayer funding” comes up a tad short, at just about 91 and a half TRILLION dollars…

      I suspect that you actually have no idea what the federal debt is…

      Please then, by all means, let me help you:

      The US Dollar only exists in three forms:

      1.) Cash

      2.) Numbers in reserve accounts

      3.) Numbers in securities accounts

      When you add up all three together, the total equals the US national debt, to the last penny.

      Cash + Reserves + Securities = The US National Debt

      ONLY the US government manufactures US Dollars.

      Since the so-called national debt is only in US Dollars, this means the national debt is not a debt at all.

      It is, in fact, the NATIONAL SAVINGS. (This is the part where those who slept through Accounting 101 get a quick refresher on DOUBLE ENTRY ACCOUNTING).

      Why so much debt and why are Japan & China, for prime examples, two of the largest US Creditors?

      Japan & China EARNED US dollars (mostly by selling us stuff) and they both wish to safely invest them right here in the USA in interest earning Securities (savings) accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States. Which, by the way, is the LARGEST and SAFEST bank in the world…

      The federal debt is nothing more than US dollars in safe haven savings accounts at the Fed…and just like any bank anywhere, growing account balances (increasing debt) at the Federal Reserve Bank burdens absolutely NO ONE.

      • SteveD December 24th, 2016 at 00:29

        Fed govt. sold over $ 95 TRILLION in securities-aka “federal debt” (see above URL) in fiscal ’16 as well…so for now, the “what if no one buys our debt” crowd can remain at bay (which no doubt includes TK).

      • TKList December 24th, 2016 at 05:27

        Then lets give everyone a million dollar yearly salary, courtesy of the Federal Reserve Bank; since is according to you “The federal debt is nothing more than US dollars in safe haven savings accounts at the Fed…and just like any bank anywhere, GROWING ACCOUNT BALANCES (increasing debt) at the Federal Reserve Bank burden absolutely no one.”

        • SteveD January 10th, 2017 at 21:24

          Dollar balances in bank savings accounts @ FRB have ZERO to do with INFLATION. (So, why not give everyone $10 million? or a $100 trillion? Why not go really big?)…yours is meaningless claptrap from someone curiously dumbfounded by facts. Figures.

  6. Max Flasher December 23rd, 2016 at 02:58

    The hate whitey left is very angry about losing the election because they’ll no longer be able to use the federal government as a weapon against working class whites.

    The left will no longer have partisan hacks like Lois Lerner and Loretta Lynch running federal agencies. When Trump is president we’ll have people committed to the rule of law in charge of federal agencies rather than leftist hacks committed to promoting a Big Brother equal outcomes society.

    The goal of socialism is communism.
    Vladimir Lenin

    Thank God the left lost. Thank God Trump won.

    • makikijoe December 23rd, 2016 at 03:58

      Max: Liberal Democrat here. Whether you can believe this or not, I don’t sit around thinking about ways that I can ” use the federal government as a weapon against working class whites”. Maybe YOUR OWN ways of thinking revolves around race. Mine don’t. And that doesn’t sound like the thinking of the liberals that I know. That is merely what some stupid conservatives THINK that we liberals think. And one more thing. Perhaps Lenin’s goal of socialism was communism. But not every socialist wants communism. Do you really believe that the millions of Scandanavians who vote for governments that embrace socialistic values (such as universal health care and a “living wage” for all) really want communism. No, Max. They don’t They want a more fair society. A society without the obscene differences in income from the poorest to the wealthiest.

      • Budda December 23rd, 2016 at 06:38

        Great reply to Max’s ideologically ( ignorant) positions.

      • Duke Woolworth December 23rd, 2016 at 07:17

        It’s called “projection.”

      • Aids Skrillex December 23rd, 2016 at 12:37

        You don’t think about it because you are no longer able to act on it

        • makikijoe December 23rd, 2016 at 14:14

          I have NEVER sat around thinking about it.

    • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 11:37

      “The hate whitey left”

      An equal opportunity bigot are we ?

      The goal of socialism is communism.
      Vladimir Lenin

      Putin is a great leader.
      Donald tRump.

      I’ve always loved my country
      too bad you didn’t.

  7. Jerry December 23rd, 2016 at 08:46

    A more simple answer… Rural white people are 3 issue voters: God, Gays and Guns.

    They are willing to live in utter poverty as long as the person they vote for are with them on those 3 issues.

    • Robert M. Snyder December 23rd, 2016 at 11:37

      Rural voters are not monolithic. Some of us are workers, and some of us are shirkers.

      The Guatemalan immigrant family who operates my local pizza shop are workers. Several of the whites they hired to work for them are shirkers. So they laid them off. Now the shirkers get to collect benefits subsidized by the tax-paying Guatemalan family of workers.

      If you were the Guatemalan immigrant family, would you vote for a party that wants to force you to pay $15/hr to people who basically just stand around and watch you work?

      • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 11:43

        YOUR local pizza shop bob ?
        You have the most amazing circle of life experience bob.
        How long, one wonders, that this “Guatemalan family of workers”
        will still be in the country when Herr tRumpster gets into office…

        • Robert M. Snyder December 23rd, 2016 at 11:46

          There came legally. They are now American citizens. Trump is only talking about illegal immigrants. Stop conflating the two issues.

          • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 11:55

            Oh, so YOU KNOW this family personally do you ?
            Went to see them take the pledge did you ?
            Is the entire family legal ? …sure hope so.
            BTW it’s “they’re” bob.

            Jerry had a point you conflated
            fair’s fair bob.

            • Robert M. Snyder December 23rd, 2016 at 13:40

              Jerry seemed to be assuming that all rural voters are white and they all think alike. My response was intended to remind him that rural voter are not monolithic and they are not all white.

              I know four members of the Guatemalan family personally. They all grew up in Guatemala City and three of them were alive when the earthquake hit in 1976. One day I asked Rosa about the immigration process. She showed me a little flag that she keeps on the food prep counter. I had never noticed it before. Written in the corner was the date on which she received the flag at the citizenship ceremony in Pittsburgh. Most years they close the pizza shop for a month during the winter because they fly to Guatemala to visit relatives. Given that, I would have to assume that they are all here legally. But nobody should have to make that assumption. If our immigration laws were enforced, then legal immigrants like Rosa would not have to live under a cloud of suspicion. Allowing large numbers of people to enter illegally just makes life worse for people like Rosa who play by the rules.

              • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 14:23

                “If our immigration laws were enforced, ”
                Oh please, republicans have been saying that for years.
                AKA if the gun laws were enforced…
                AKA smaller government less taxes…
                This country simply needs to do what Saint Ronny did.
                Amnesty, period.

                • Robert M. Snyder December 23rd, 2016 at 14:31

                  Reagan agreed to a package deal that granted amnesty but also was supposed to put a stop to further illegal immigration. Amnesty was supposed to be a one-time deal. If we have to keep granting amnesty, we might as well just fling open the borders.

                  Please post your street address so that future illegal immigrants can come and live in your house. I’ll bet you don’t even live in the southern US.

                  • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 14:49

                    I had no idea I had to live in a special part of the country in order to have an opinion to be deemed credible for you.
                    I do not need to justify my life to you nor will I bother with
                    competing with your superior benevolence here.

                    OH, and the laws on the books was “supposed to”
                    keep employers from hiring illegals…
                    keep crazy people from buying weapons…
                    I’m sure you getting the gist here.

                    I’d be happy offering sanctuary to any immigrant, illegal or otherwise.

                    • Robert M. Snyder December 23rd, 2016 at 16:43

                      In 2015, Mexican universities graduated 114K people with degrees in engineering.


                      Just like the US, parts of Mexico have a high crime rate. But the people who leave Mexico and come to America are just like the people who leave America and go to Canada or Europe. They were not satisfied in their home country, so they are not likely to say good things about it. Jose, the guy who owns the pizza shop, came to the US in the 1980’s. He never has anything good to say about Guatemala or Mexico. I recently asked him if things were getting better in those countries, and he immediately said they are only getting worse.

                      But what is the reality? Why do over 100K students bother to get engineering degrees if the place is such a mess?

                      For every young Mexican woman who emigrates to the US, there are probably twenty more who do not emigrate. If you’re asking me to show compassion toward the one who emigrates, then why don’t you show compassion toward the twenty who remain in Mexico? Why not look for ways to help the Mexican and Guatemalan economies to improve? Do you support NAFTA? Hasn’t NAFTA been good for Mexico? And if you don’t support NAFTA because it has flaws, what kind of trade agreement would you support? Do you have any other ideas for helping to make Mexico and Guatemala better places for all of the “remainers” to live?

                      It’s all well and good to care about Mexicans who cross the border. But why does crossing the border make a difference? Why don’t these people matter just as much if they are unable or unwilling to come to the US?

                    • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 20:02

                      I am not asking anything from you bob.
                      Your commentary is (compared to the run of the mill tRumpanze)
                      commendable and generally spot on for the non-traditional conservative. I don’t expect you to change or agree.
                      Just continue to be a good egg… ;)

                    • Robert M. Snyder December 23rd, 2016 at 20:36

                      If I didn’t know better, I’d say that the old fart is getting into the Christmas spirit. LOL

                      Hope you enjoy the holidays. You just made mine a little bit brighter.

    • Aids Skrillex December 23rd, 2016 at 12:34

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a2aa22017c95b626bf6b22953429a9d24c968aaa1e0b66f78cb31e5702b44926.jpg condescention worked out so well for democrats. Keep up the good work

      • Hirightnow December 23rd, 2016 at 13:32


      • Jerry December 23rd, 2016 at 14:05

        You need to go take a drive through rural Kentucky, Missouri and Kansas etc. and you will find what i said to be absolutely true.

      • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 14:35

        You folks have really got to find something else to talk about beside an election that has come and gone.
        like why there’s no wall, or Hillary not in prison
        or maybe why a 25 million dollar settlement was too much for defrauding people out of their money…you know…stuff like that.

        • Aids Skrillex December 23rd, 2016 at 16:40

          Trump isn’t president yet, Skippy

          • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 16:54

            It’s all over but the shouting cupcake.

        • Margie Bateman Osgood December 25th, 2016 at 17:25

          You tell us to get over the election, but you keep bringing it up and then tell US to stop talking about it. The cartoon you posted above is a case in point.

          • oldfart December 25th, 2016 at 17:44

            I didn’t post it.

            • Margie Bateman Osgood January 19th, 2017 at 02:07

              Sorry, I misread

  8. Angelo_Frank December 23rd, 2016 at 10:44

    They are all high on meth.

    • Lyndia December 23rd, 2016 at 21:14

      and molesting their children.

  9. Max Flasher December 23rd, 2016 at 11:03

    A few months ago I was talking to a black guy at work in Chicago who said the police are murdering innocent blacks but this will stop when these vigilante groups start killing cops. So where did he get this idea that the police are murdering innocent blacks? Obviously from BLM which is strongly supported by Hillary, the Democratic Party, the leftist media and white leftists in general. So why then wouldn’t he believe that the police are murdering innocent blacks? I recently read a comment which said it is possible to support BLM and not be anti-police. Perhaps so but that’s not what has happened.

    I told him it’d probably be better to have only black cops in black areas. He said that wouldn’t work because black cops are also part of the system. What he meant by “the system” was what Hillary and other white leftists call “institutional racism” which means that “white supremacy” is woven so deeply into the fabric of American society that it’s simply impossible for blacks to be treated fairly and therefore massive change is needed to destroy this evil system that so brutally oppresses blacks.

    If I were asked for advice on how to destroy a multiracial society promoting ideas like this is certainly what I’d recommend. I consider the left insane and of course they’d say I’m racist/fascist. Basically, what we have here then is the loss of a common reality and without something as basic as that how do we have a country? Does America even still exist as a country?

    • Hirightnow December 23rd, 2016 at 11:07

      I approve some comments just to let the locals tear into the poster.
      Yours is such a comment.

    • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 11:29

      “Basically, what we have here then is the loss of a common reality ”

      You have obviously lost something yourself… but in your case,
      a mind would be a terrible thing to have.

    • JMax December 23rd, 2016 at 11:57

      “So where did he get this idea that the police are murdering innocent blacks?”

      It’s not “innocent” blacks. It’s unarmed blacks killed by officials abusing their authority. They didn’t get the idea from BLM. They got it from seeing a bunch of videos of actual shootings of unarmed black men and boys.

      BLM is not anti-police. It is anti- unaccountable abuse of authority. And if you think racism isn’t involve, please post a video of an unarmed white man being shot by police.

      • oldfart December 23rd, 2016 at 12:03

        Or even, a vid of a white guy being shot WITH a gun…

      • ScranunSlim December 28th, 2016 at 17:04

        BLM is built on the LIE of “Hands Up – Don’t Shoot”

        Ya sound like the poster boy for sappy, white political correctness Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon, who said that the video of The Gentle Giant’s strongarm robbery was used to “besmirch” his reputation.

        Yup – nuthin’ like a video to besmirch one’s reputation.
        Ask Abuela Alinsky.

      • Crohop December 30th, 2016 at 23:33


    • Lyndia December 23rd, 2016 at 21:16

      Are you familiar they the Boyd case? Do you know anything about the McDonald case? No? Didn’t think so.

  10. Aids Skrillex December 23rd, 2016 at 12:26


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