Pat Boone tells us the War on Christmas season has begun
Thank goodness we have Pat Boone to tell us that it’s time to start fighting this year’s War on Christmas.
Click here for reuse options!In a column for WorldNetDaily this week, entertainer and conservative activist Pat Boone declared that “America is abandoning God” and that, as a result, God is lifting “His hand of protection” from the nation, leading us to a presidential election “between two candidates no current majority wants.”
“He knows we’re headed toward financial ruin, escalating internal violence, loss of world leadership, moral corruption and eventual collapse of our government—unless we collectively call Him back into our national life!” Boone wrote.
Boone elaborated on his point in an interview with Newsmax’s Steve Malzberg yesterday, saying that developments such as the “War on Christmas” and rulings against government-sponsored school prayer are causing God to “step aside.”
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Larry Schmitt September 15th, 2016 at 17:03
When does the War on Pat Boone start? I volunteer for hazardous duty. I’ll take the bastard out.
Suzanne McFly September 15th, 2016 at 17:44
I got your bail Larry, just call when you get taken away.
crc3 September 15th, 2016 at 18:32
Rump first please…I’ll help…
Bunya September 16th, 2016 at 14:50
That’s a great idea. We can start a “war on Pat Boone”, and when the righties complain, we can fall on the floor a cry, “non-religious persecution!”.
Larry Schmitt September 15th, 2016 at 17:06
By the way, it should always be phrased “entertainer” Pat Boone.
whatthe46 September 15th, 2016 at 17:29
And he ain’t entertaining.
Larry Schmitt September 15th, 2016 at 17:36
That’s why the quotes.
whatthe46 September 15th, 2016 at 18:43
I gotcha.
Dwendt44 September 15th, 2016 at 17:30
Looooog way past his prime.
Larry Schmitt September 15th, 2016 at 17:34
He never had a prime. He bastardized R&B songs that had been created by black writers and singers.
amersham1046 September 15th, 2016 at 17:58
on stage he is an entertainer, in the political arena he is a minor amusement
arc99 September 15th, 2016 at 17:25
Back in the good old days when America was exterminating native Americans, stealing their land, enslaving Africans, depriving women of the right to vote, forcing children to work 12-14 hour days in factories, enabling Jim Crow segregation as the rule rather than the exception, and accepting as perfectly normal any number of other moral atrocities, there was never any mention of “God’s protection”.
Now that we have addressed those fundamental moral issues, right wingers tell us that god is pi$$ed at us. He is angry because as we all prepare to gather around our fertility tree laden with food and gifts as talismans to bring prosperity in the new year, we say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas as we indulge in our annual rites of mindless consumerism.
This example illustrates why in my opinion, right wing Christians are some of the most immoral people on the planet.
Dwendt44 September 15th, 2016 at 17:29
Like most christmas symbols and traditions, the tree, if not the whole season, is Pagan celebration of the end of the year, hope for a early spring, and general frivolity.
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RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 00:26
Your history is wrong.
And the assaults on Christmas are so pernicious and pervasive that Congress virtually unanimously agreed on a resolution to preserve what the Left was trying to destroy.
Would you like the name and text of the resolution?
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 00:52
seriously. ok, just to let you know exactly how damn foolish it was of you to post that lame comment, you used “unanimously agreed” and “…left… to destroy.” in the same damn sentence. stop trying to be smart, it doesn’t suit you at all.
RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 00:57
Thank you for asking, and your distortion was expected.
Specifically, the resolution was entitled: “Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the symbols and traditions of Christmas should be protected.” 401 were in favor, and only 22 opposed it. Specifically:
“The House of Representatives (1) recognizes the importance of the symbols and traditions of Christmas; (2) strongly disapproves of attempts to ban references to Christmas; and (3) expresses support for the use of these symbols and traditions, for those who celebrate Christmas.”
The mere FACTS that the House decided to have such a resolution – Democrats and Republicans – and that virtually all voted in favor of it, shows that they were responding to an assault on this great holiday.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 01:04
site your source.
RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 01:11
Google the words. It is from Congress, pal.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 01:14
now, the damn cite! your burden not mine.
RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 01:16
Congress. The one in D.C.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 01:58
cite!
bpollen September 16th, 2016 at 05:46
Deflection.
“Look it up” is the tool of a troll.
I contend you don’t provide the cite because you are categorically unable to do so.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:13
All any thinking person has to do is Google some of the phrases.
RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 01:12
It is spelled “cite,” by the way.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 01:14
thank you.
bpollen September 16th, 2016 at 05:45
Not cite, no site on which your cite was listed, it’s just not in sight!
Fact free, and devolves into spelling Nazi rather than actually providing the “cite.” Can you say BS?
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:12
Godwin’s Law at work.
Obewon September 16th, 2016 at 01:19
62% of Likely Voters agree, and (R) Colin Powell confirms, Basketcase of Deplorables: Secretary of State Colin Powell’s private email account revealed the retired four-star general called Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump “a national disgrace and an international pariah.” http://www.pollingreport.com/wh16.htm
In one of the emails, Powell calls Trump’s birther investigation a “racist” movement which incorrectly states that President Barack Obama was born in a foreign country. “Yup, the whole birther movement was racist,” Powell wrote. Commenting on Trump wanting to know if Obama was Muslim, Powell wrote, “As I have said before, ‘What if he was?’ Muslims are born as Americans everyday.” “The emails are accurate. No further comment at this time,” Peggy Cifrino, an aide to Powell, told CNN.
In another email, he said of Trump: “He appeals to the worst … of the GOP nature and poor white folks.” He also blasted Trump’s earlier statement where the New Yorker claimed he will win over African-American voters. “For him to say yesterday that within four years he would have 95% of blacks voting for him is schizo fantasy. And [former Fox News chief Roger] Ailes as an adviser won’t heal with women.” http://www.alan.com/2016/09/14/colin-powell-called-donald-trump-international-pariah-in-leaked-emails/
RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 01:22
Why are you bringing your racist garbage here? It was about Christmas. I presented the House Resolution.
Obewon September 16th, 2016 at 01:26
You promote well proven Racist Trump. Not I.
RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 01:29
You need to get some help with your obsession with race.
Obewon September 16th, 2016 at 01:33
You’re thinking of well proven xenophobe and pathological liar Trump-The Birther cheerleader. GFYS!
RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 01:39
You need treatment for your obsession with race. Your passing on your obsession is one of the reasons that we have more racial discord and conflict. YOU are part of the problem.
Obewon September 16th, 2016 at 01:41
Your comments prove that you are a very well proven racist.
RightThinkingOne September 16th, 2016 at 01:43
You bring up race in a discussion about Christmas! This thread is about Pat Boone and Christmas, and you change it to race.
In-credible!
Obewon September 16th, 2016 at 01:50
She’s a brickhouse. Xmas is mighty mighty… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EmnQp3V48
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:02
???
bpollen September 16th, 2016 at 05:43
Talking about race with a racist. Boy, is he MEAN!
Like you and the rest of the supremacists never talk about race. Here, pull the other one!
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:12
It is unfortunate that you view the world and its people through the color of their skin.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 01:58
racist hate when you call them what they are.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 01:57
you need treatment for your denial. if you don’t want to talk about it it’s because you don’t want to confront who you are and that is a very despicable person. YOU’RE THE PROBLEM. you act like there’s no fk’n racism in this country. that our lying eyes are wrong. that we can’t fk’n hear you and your b.s. your hero and racist bitch ass tRump calls for violence of people of color and we have a problem confronting you. GTFO!!
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:02
OCD with you.
whatthe46 September 18th, 2016 at 19:30
racist says what?
bpollen September 16th, 2016 at 05:42
Calling Trump a racist shows he’s obsessed with race?
Facts scare you, so you have to project your failings onto others.
Justice Department sued Trump’s company TWICE for discriminating in housing against blacks. He settled the first with a promise to not discriminate. Three years later, he was sued AGAIN for discriminating against black applicants.
Calling Trump a racist is a demonstrable fact. Is EVERYBODY who points it out the really racially obsessed one? The DOJ suing Trump for discrimination is part of the problem with race in this country? Pointing out the truth is sowing racial discord? Saying that Americans of Mexican dissent are incapable of doing their job because of THEIR bias is NOT, but mentioning that Trump said this repeatedly IS sowing racial discord?
As trolls go, you are a particularly shallow and inept racist one.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 01:54
why does racist such as yourself hate when we call you a racist and want to talk about your being a racist?
bpollen September 16th, 2016 at 05:34
You are precious! Like most racists, everybody but the racist themselves have a problem with race. Ku Klux Klowns want YOU!
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:11
No, you are obsessing with race.
Suzanne McFly September 18th, 2016 at 19:48
Well at least he irons his sheets, he takes pride in his hate for the “otherness” (like President Obama is now called).
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 02:16
hey, where did it go?
bpollen September 16th, 2016 at 05:32
Which just proves that the House spends their time on symbolic gestures rather than actually governing. Did this give anybody a job, improve the lot of a single person, help non-Christians, feed a child, make any frickin’ practical difference in the life of any single American? No. Did it increase church attendance? Are there more Christians as a percentage of the population as a result? Did it win the war on Xmas?
Empty symbolism. That’s REALLY important to you. Most prefer substance, you prefer hollow posturing.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:11
Yes, it did help. A lot.
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 19:45
Show me the tangible benefit. Your proclamation has no real credibility without it. Give specifics of who, what, when, where, how, and then cite things like corroborative evidence.
I’m neither less nor more able to celebrate Xmas than I was before. Those who celebrate it still can, those who don’t can if they want to. Therefore, there is no tangible change post-resolution (pandering.)
Proof or goof. Your choice. But we both know you won’t provide evidence – can’t provide what doesn’t exist.
Suzanne McFly September 18th, 2016 at 19:46
He doesn’t have to show you benefits, he believes they are there so it must be true.
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:04
He has presented nothing that would qualify as proof to anybody other than a fellow delusional twit. His main rhetorical tools are “uh-huh” and “nuh-uh.”
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 20:01
It is common sense, of course: Knowing that the government has given the backing to preserving the traditions of that great holiday discourages religio-phobes from trying to tear down creches and emboldens people of faith to engage in their right to publicly display the sights and sounds of our holiday.
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 21:54
Claiming “common sense” doesn’t constitute “proof.”
So, goof then. You can’t show this emboldening you purport to exist. So it’s not in any degree “evidence” to make a claim of an intangible result.
Proof or goof, and you chose goof.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 22:00
The fact is that Congressmen took the trouble to write it, review it, and vote on it.
Hey, it did not just come out of nowhere. There HAD to be a reason. There were not any such proclamations about people practicing yoga which is good for relaxation, or for people owning pets for their children.
No, there was a reason Congress decided to respond in that manner. That, sir, is patently obvious!
TruthWins12 September 18th, 2016 at 22:02
Yes. I see this statement has happened a number of times since it was first introduced.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 22:03
I did not know. Thanks for the information!
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 22:05
Congress tried to defund Planned Parenthood because of false claims about selling fetuses. Congressmen had to put effort into that, also. Ergo, the fact that Congress buys ANOTHER false narrative doesn’t proof anything except they’ll do anything to pander.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 22:05
Unrelated. Nice attempt to derail, however.
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:00
It shows that Congress taking up a subject doesn’t mean there is any truth to what they take up. You claim that fewer than 500 Congressmen pandering constitutes proof. On that basis:
Nearly 20% of Americans (waaaay more than 500) believe that the Earth is the center of the universe – Geocentism. Does that make it true?
Nearly 25% believe the sun revolves around the Earth. Does that constitute proof?
Around 33% believe in ghosts. Does that make them tangible?
7% believe the moon landing was faked, and there are more of them than there are in Congress. Does that make Neil Armstrong a liar?
7% believe Elvis is till alive. Still more than there is in Congress, and not a whit of evidence to support it… does that mean it’s true?
About 25% believe that Obama is the Antichrist (another thing which has no tangible proof of its existence.) Does THAT make it true?
15% believe the gubmint is putting mind control into TV programs. Does that significantly larger number of people than Congress believing it make it true?
Nearly 25% believe that America won it’s freedom – but from somebody other than England. Does that mean that Paul Revere said “the British are coming” falsely?
The fact that you can get people to SAY something is true really has no impact on reality.
Proof. Actual tangible proof that there is a war on Xmas. Put up or tacitly admit that it is all a scam, a fantasy, a lie. Just because politicians will make self-serving statements in no verifies there is any truth in those statements.
So, tangible proof or you just admit it’s bogus. And saying “Some guys over there believe it” doesn’t qualify, “common sense” doesn’t qualify, only tangible, physical, verifiable data is needed.
The fact is, people aren’t buying religious fairy tales in quite the number they used to, but that’s not proof of a war either. Declining church attendance indicates that fewer people buy the whole story. Plus, there are BILLIONS of non-Christians. Their not celebrating a misplaced holiday doesn’t qualify as proof either.
If we wanna talk numbers, fewer people are buying religion of any sort. THIS would be what would kill Xmas, not this ersatz War on Ersatz Birthday of an Unconfirmed Messiah:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f616a09bfae4ac2ab8d56091fc4a340751c2efdce5a76712c94c3487dbd31c1.png
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:23
Preserving our traditions is not a matter of “truth” in the SLIGHTEST, of course. It is a decision of values and what is important. It has nothing to do with “truth,” except in the sense that if so many Congressmen decided to write this and then vote for it, the “truth” is – even if they were only thinking of their reputations – was that it MUST be important to the American people!
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:36
“Important” and “True” are not synonyms, so that isn’t proof of the existence of the war. You failed to provide proof. Again.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:46
Read the words. It is to preserve the traditions. Why would mature men and women in the nation’s capitol get together to write a statement and vote on it, unless they were responding to something, something that they wanted to preserve?
Specifically, look at the second of the three parts:
“strongly disapproves of attempts to ban references to Christmas”
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:52
You claimed that Congress’ resolution was proof of the war on xmas. Now it’s preserving our tradition and not a matter of “truth.”
Now you have taken two mutually exclusive positions on what Congress did. You don’t even agree with yourself.
Again, failed to provide tangible proof. At least you are consistent – there is no “there” there.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:55
Yes. Read what I put in quotes (third repetition). It is obvious.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 00:05
It’s not proof. Abject failure again. And you have failed more than 3 times to provide actual proof.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 00:13
It is proof. If you really know anything about “science” and “tangible proof,” then you will first DEFINE your parameters in a quantifiable manner.
Go ahead. Define it “scientifically” and be prepared to show us that your definition is germane and essential to what is being “discussed.”
Let’s see what you got.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 00:36
Deflecting again. Prove your point or you just prove that it’s untrue. Semantics about “true” is pointless. You make a claim, provide corroboration. Other people opinion doesn’t qualify. I never brought up “science” but I did say “tangible.” Since this seems to totally baffle you, I will spare you having to actually google a fact, here’s what “tangible” means: A thing that is perceptible by touch. I have also called for “verifiable’ proof. Again, here’s a little helping hand to fight the ignorance, here’s what “verifiable” means: capable of being verified. Since that probably confuses you, “verify” means: make sure or demonstrate that (something) is true, accurate, or justified.
You fail. You deflect. You don’t back up your BS with facts.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 01:28
Word games. You want “tangible proof.” So, tell me what that means. If you know the very basis of your iteration, “tangible proof,” you would know that it necessitates quantifying something. I.e., the scientific method.” Do you know about that?
Yes, I am making an assumption, and it is obvious to any rational person: If the Congress “strongly disapproves of attempts to ban references to Christmas,” it is in response to something going on. That cannot be denied. Even if they are just “playing politics” and don’t care about Christmas or its symbols, it still is a response to the overwhelming majority of their constituents. They know that, whether or not they care about the tradition.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 01:46
Tangible means you can touch it. It doesn’t require the scientific method to touch something. Also, you are deflecting again by delving into minutia. Where’s the proof of the War on Christmas? If “tangible” just stumps you, I would be delighted with verifiable proof that doesn’t consist of other people’s opinion.
No more excuses, no more semantic games, no more deflection, provide ANY FRICKIN’ DEMONSTRABLE or INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIABLE facts indicating it isn’t just a line o’ crapola.
Prediction: you will do nothing of the sort. You will just talk more crap and not back anything up.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 01:47
You do not even understand what you are writing! If “tangible” means something else, then (FIFTH UNANSWERED REQUEST, PAL) tell me what it is – specifically, without the word games and labeling.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 02:14
I gave you a definition. If tangible means something you can touch, then it means something you can touch. That’s not word games, that’s Webster. But if you don’t like tangible, try for verifiable. Webster defines that too.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 20:26
You did not. Tell us then, what is to be “touched” as you are using the term.
bpollen September 20th, 2016 at 03:42
Vietnam, for instance. I can touch the vets who served, I can hear their stories of their time in country, see their prostheses and canes and wheelchairs, I can find historical reference to the places they served, the war they were in, who the participants were. I can touch the weapons used, can walk on the ships and touch the planes and helicopters… I can find VA records listing who served during this conflict.
You provided “We like Christmas” from Congress.
Verifiable proof. You can’t get it up, so you will just deflect again. You won’t show anything that anybody can look up, visit, walk on, any participants, any dates, any casualties, any battles… Just empty rhetoric.
Evidence – noun – the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
Got any?
whatthe46 September 20th, 2016 at 03:47
bpollen. i bet his other handle is “rightonthemark.” that’s who’s giving him upvotes. i smell a strong disgusting odor of a liar.
bpollen September 20th, 2016 at 03:58
A troll stroking his own… ego? They all do, it seems… at least until they need glasses.
whatthe46 September 20th, 2016 at 04:10
lol. i am laughing because i actually got the joke. hahahhahaha
whatthe46 September 20th, 2016 at 04:10
GN i am going to hate myself in a couple of hours. ahhhh! later bpollen.
bpollen September 20th, 2016 at 04:26
¡Dulces sueños!
RightThinkingOne September 20th, 2016 at 19:18
Veterans will agree that one has a “right” to burn or spit on our flag, but almost every one of them will despise the ingrates, the reprobates, who do that. There are exceptions, of course, like the hateful Howard Zinn who was in WW2 and wrote a book of hate toward our great nation, designed to indoctrinate people like you.
bpollen September 21st, 2016 at 02:36
Well, that’s a different thread, but you still are making claims that you speak for veterans. Chickenhawks don’t get to speak for vets. Additionally, your claim is easily debunked.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/31/us/veterans-for-kaepernick-trnd/
Another lie and another claim of speaking for people you don’t even know.
Way to harp on the same subject no matter where you are and do it so stupefyingly poorly that Twitter proves your are fulla shite.
RightThinkingOne September 21st, 2016 at 19:00
It is just as I wrote: Most Americans know his behavior was repulsive and vile, and they agree that foul reprobate “football player” has a RIGHT to behave in such a deplorable manner.
Reuters poll:
72 percent of Americans said they thought it was unpatriotic.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nfl-anthem-poll-idUSKCN11K2ID
In a FOX Poll, 77% were “offended” by the “football player’s” reprehensible behavior.
http://fox43.com/2016/08/29/poll-are-you-offended-by-colin-kaepernicks-decision-to-sit-during-the-national-anthem/
Local news from Palm Springs, CA- VETERANS:
Local veterans are speaking out about the recent protest by 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick. They said they don’t respect his actions
http://www.kesq.com/news/Local-veterans-react-to-Kaepernick-anthem-protest/41426396
Even in the center of Leftism, San Francisco, the majority of people DON’T RESPECT that “football player’s” behavior:
The majority – 55-percent – said they do not respect the decision (and 41% did, which means, among those who did make a decision, 57% DIDN’T RESPECT it).
One could go on and on with this.
bpollen September 22nd, 2016 at 02:58
You can go on with it… your jerking off is your issue.
You did NOT say “most Americans know…”
Your actual words:
Veterans will agree that one has a “right” to burn or spit on our flag, but almost every one of them will despise the ingrates, the reprobates, who do that.
Lying again. You have a an opinion that you project onto everybody else, including outright racists. You must be proud…
You’re also an ignorant troll.
RightThinkingOne September 22nd, 2016 at 19:03
Yes. There are exceptions within veterans, but by and large, they abhor that “football player’s” deplorable, repulsive, ignorant behaviors, of course.
I provided objective data. YOU, on the other hand, simply found a select group of veterans and tried – dishonestly – to make it appear as though they spoke for veterans at large.
bpollen September 23rd, 2016 at 02:46
Polling is objective data? You have a noxious opinion, polling shows that OTHERS have that noxious opinion, and this is objective data? 75% of Americans can’t name the 5 freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment (and that obviously includes you.) Half of Americans didn’t know Judaism came before Christianity. 51% don’t know that there are 9 Supreme Court Justices and 54% can’t name even one of them. 60% can’t name the three branches of government. 80% of Americans believe they are an above-average driver.
You’ve proven that others think as you do. Amongst them, blatant racists. (Yay for you!) But that doesn’t prove that your opinion is correct.
RightThinkingOne September 26th, 2016 at 19:11
You presented a select group. I presented two examples of general polls, and one organization.
It does not matter if Americans can or cannot name the “5 freedoms.” You write that as an excuse to reject what you do not want to know.
bpollen September 27th, 2016 at 03:43
Showed that people are ignorant about a lot of stuff. So, you think you won, fine. People believe all sorts of vile and defenseless and ignorant things. .
RightThinkingOne September 27th, 2016 at 22:17
One cannot logically reject the polls, claiming that they are not valid, because one thinks many Americans are “ignorant.” It is not only illogical, it is condescending and only self-serving.
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 02:58
Sure. You can’t claim they are valid if your same source shows that there is a VAST amount of ignorance out there.
It’s nice that you so blatantly bring up your double standard. Polls can prove YOUR point, but not anybody else’s. If polls are valid, the polls that show that people believe a lot of stupid, unprovable, or obnoxious things.
Definitely show your colors – your handle ( Cogito ergo sum rectum,) and your “only MY polls are valid” hypocrisy
Provide something other than your opinion or other’s opinion. But of course, all you have provided is your opinion, but nothing other than that.
Evidence, got any?
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 19:36
Yes, you can. They are polls, not measures of intelligence, education or knowledge.
I advise you to look into what polls actually do. How can you be so dishonest as to say polls only prove my point? They provide a good picture on the subject that is polled. You try to make it something else.
Obewon September 28th, 2016 at 19:41
“So I understand that we have a Reuters poll where we’re 10 points up!”-Nope, Trump’s cracked:
Today Reuters — Hillary Clinton (Democrat) 39.5%
Donald Trump (Pathological Liar Republiklan) 33.1% http://disq.us/p/1cctst2
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 19:49
Therefore…. what? What in hell does that have to do with what I stated?????
Obewon September 28th, 2016 at 19:58
“They are polls,” Facts> https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fece82b5ab3cbbb621b065299ee0fdb7f171e665b8d74fc271a7b3a873912ccb.jpg
Who cares what you troll for Coke Addicted Trump.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a210ada5892090ac8f2b5f36edf0798f5e0c62928d6c5d2854526031bcf299b3.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6a25fa2e9a95e1e839d57369dde7321df9647aee07987fa1d160d0bc942f634.jpg
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 21:08
Polls measure what they purport to measure, within the parameters of how well they have defined the parameters, of course.
whatthe46 September 28th, 2016 at 21:32
did you miss your rally today? or were you there? is one of these women (bad bad hair and obviously no mirrors) your wife. barf: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5426ea22efbe7964f3547144b7e79135be4d680e71a0013db7f09b569fdda0f4.jpg
whatthe46 September 28th, 2016 at 21:34
why tRump minions are more than fk’n disgusting & https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7b794f96f64e4a83388bef3ab1252513b07d0aa06d141ea6985f16a2872925c3.jpg deplorable, like yourself:
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 23:47
Polls are subjective. If your subjective polls are valid, so are all other polls.
You deny polls that undercut your position.
Hypocisy, thy name is “Cogito ergo sum rectum!”
Fail.
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 23:58
Again (fifth repetition): It depends on the wording and the sampling procedures. A level of trust that the major polling institutions will do adequate and valid random sampling within the parameters of the population of concern is needed. For example, if they are asking about for whom the people will vote, they would not want to include children.
And they should limit conclusions specifically to the question asked: If, FOR EXAMPLE, EXAMPLE, HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE, they asked who seems to lie more, Trump or Hillary, they could not make conclusions that the one who was thought to lie more would probably lose the election. Too much of a leap. But they could possibly infer some things about honesty or trust.
And it would not matter if the people – potential voters – are correct, informed, ignorant, etc. In this EXAMPLE, HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE FOR PURPOSES OF EXPLANATION OF A CONCEPT, it would provide (if adequately randomized) information about who the potential voters think lies more.
whatthe46 September 29th, 2016 at 00:04
why are you voting for a racist, bigot, accused child rapist, etc., etc.?
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 00:10
Polls ARE subjective. They ask OPINION. What do YOU think of this question? Who do YOU think is the better candidate? Who do YOU think won the debate. It is the very essence of subjective.
Poll – noun – a sampling or collection of opinions on a subject, taken from either a selected or a random group of persons, as for the purpose of analysis. (You see where it says OPINION?)
Fail…
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 00:17
Yes, they ask opinions. And a person can be uneducated, benighted, or have a doctorate from a prestigious university. They all buy stuff, vote, and have opinions, right or wrong, smart of dumb. It changes nothing, as long as the pollsters stick to what is being asked. (Sixth repetition of basic information.)
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 00:31
Opinions are subjective. Therefore, polls asking opinions are asking for subjective data. Ergo, polls collate OPINION. Doesn’t matter if they are Nobel Laureates, or Bus Drivers, it’s their OPINION.
Opinion is NOT objective by its very definition.
You fail.
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 02:52
Yes. Most of life cannot be operationally defined, of course. And people ACT on subjective ideas, opinions, moods, etc. People vote and make choices of what to buy, based on these “non-scientific” subjective premises.
Reality, pal.
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 02:57
Your opinion is reality, pal? Doesn’t that mean that MY opinion is reality? You provide opinion and cry checkmate. I’ve said all along that it’s just opinion.
At least you aren’t trying the “polls aren’t subjective” bullshit anymore.
Fail.
whatthe46 September 29th, 2016 at 03:05
why are you still playing with your food?
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 03:07
The reality is that most of life’s decisions and actions are not based on “scientific evidence.” Subjective moods and ideas drive behaviors. I fail to understand how anyone can doubt that.
That is the truth. Deal with it.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 01:48
“Tangible?” The Supreme Court cases? But hey, I cannot “touch” those cases, except in the sense that I can “touch” the paper on which the cases were written.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:25
So, you do not think the religion on which Christmas is based is true. Therefore, based on what you are writing, that means that we should then be totally rational and “logical” and are compelled to rid ourselves of anything that came out of that “falsity,” that “myth.”
I would hate to live in a world such as that: Beauty, hope, love and longing would disappear.
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:36
I don’t actually know, just like YOU) whether or not Jebus existed and said and did the things claimed. It IS unproven. There is no contemporaneous and independent verification that he even existed, let alone all the other stuff attributed to him. If you have proof of the reality of Jesus and his statements and acts, present it. Of course, nobody has been able to do so for millennia, but go for it. Maybe you can do what NOBODY for thousands of years has been capable of doing.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:43
Totally unrelated. The reality is that – whether or not Jesus even existed – we have been celebrating the Christmas tradition for centuries. Schools go on vacation, companies give people time off, most people buy presents, many go to mass, it is a national holiday, there is a “spirit” (sorry, it is “unscientific”) in the air, it gives hope, the message – even if most do not follow it – is to love others, and any mature adult could go on and on and on.
So, unless I am wrong, you are saying that unless one can “prove” some kind of “truth” about Jesus, we should rid ourselves of all of the above and more.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 00:01
The fact that people believe in Jebus doesn’t mean there’s a war on Xmas, that Jebus existed, that he turned water into wine, walked on water…
Again, failure is a recurring theme for ya.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 00:11
Deny or confirm the reality.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 00:40
No. You are the one who believes, so YOU prove his existence. I don’t contend he existed, nor do I contend he didn’t. You make the affirmative claim, so it’s up to YOU to deny or confirm YOUR claim.
I take no position. I just state that there is no concrete evidence of the bible story of his existence. Lack of evidence isn’t evidence either way.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 01:29
I am a non-believer. I never said that God exists. But you prove me wrong: SHOW me where I said I believe. Show me.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 01:35
No. You prove you are a non-believer. You believe in a war on xmas that doesn’t exist, I don’t believe your statements of non-belief. You have disagreed with your own opinions, so I don’t believe your statements on anything. I’m still waiting for verifiable proof of this war on xmas. You deflect from that, and now *I* have to prove what is only in your head? You are precious!
Where is verifiable proof of the War on Christmas? Let’s deal with your falsehoods in order.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 01:46
Primarily, the “war” is an attempt to have many symbols and sounds of Christmas removed from the public arena. Don’t you know about the creche court cases, the ones that went all the way to the Supreme Court?
Don’t you realize what that is? How can you NOT? Traditions and displays of CENTURIES are now being brought to the highest court in the land, in order to get them taken down! Don’t you know about those cases?
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 01:48
Not proof. Abject failure. Separation of Church and State does NOT equal “War on Xmas.”
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 01:50
It is the attempt to have the sounds and symbols removed from the public arena. Interesting that they were not considered related to this stupid idea of “separation” for almost TWO HUNDRED YEARS!
arc99 September 16th, 2016 at 02:32
So the House of Representatives in approving a resolution that states
“”Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the symbols and traditions of Christmas should be protected.”””
voted to protect the pagan tradition of displaying a symbol of fertility, in the form of an evergreen tree the onset of winter
how ecumenical of them.
in any event, the resolution in no way rebuts the original point of my post which is the immoral hypocrisy of right wingers like Mr. Boone. for two centuries, all manner of heinous fundamental evil was common in this country and there was no talk about the country being abandoned by the almighty.
but we are supposed to believe that because some citizens express their first amendment right to refer to the December holiday any way they prefer, only now have we offended the creator?
believe that upside down morality if you want. a Congressional resolution motivated by political pandering and paranoid delusions of persecution do not rebut any of the ugly facts of American history.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:04
No, the documentation of the Congress PROVES – beyond any doubt at all – that there was an assault on Christmas. They did not write that document out of thin air. There was a reason for the entire Congress to do that.
bpollen September 16th, 2016 at 05:25
NO!
Saying “Screw Christmas” is political suicide. Self-preservation really doesn’t support your congressional “mandate.” And the mere fact that the house decided to promote a SPECIFIC religion is reprehensible and totally contrary to the Constitution.
The fact that people are leaving churches in ever-increasing numbers is MUCH more of a threat than somebody saying “Happy Holidays.”
You really take a lot of positions that have no actual factual proof to support them. This sham war on Christmas really doesn’t seem to have any casualties:
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RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:11
It is preserving the tradition. Read the document.
But these haters of religion would spoil the joys and hopes of the Christmas season.
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 19:39
The document proves and preserves nothing but pandering. Absolutely nothing is measurably different as a result of this “proof” of the spurious War on Xmas.
Who ARE these Attackers of Xmas? Where are they from, located currently, doing their dastardly deeds? What have they destroyed, ruined, killed, occupied, toppled, defiled, raped, tortured – you know, the stuff that happens in War? Name a casualty or three, can you? Point out a single visible battlefield? Who’s funding this war? What weapons are being used? What victories have they notched their Anti-Xmas swords for?
You make the claim it exists. You make a lot of claims. What you DON’T do is provide “evidence.” You denigrate people that don’t seem to even exist and impugn their character and telepathically (apparently) discern their feelings on specific subjects (What am I thinking NOW, Kreskin?) and that somehow they can ruin the Christmas season for ALL 2.2 billion Christians.
If you can provide tangible proof of your War on Xmas, do so and prove yourself a great moral warrior against the denizens of Defenders of
IslamChristianity. If you don’t, you thereby prove that it is empty rhetoric (what most people call BS.)Suzanne McFly September 18th, 2016 at 19:45
I figured it out, the destroyers of Christmas are BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!! We can’t see them and we never see their destruction, we don’t even know it is occurring, but the right claims it is so it must be true. I never would of realized it myself, because at Christmas time, I spend time with family and I don’t think about the destruction of Christmas. We give gifts and share stories, we even have Santa come over for the kids. Then we go to midnight Mass, I feel terrible now. As a liberal, I have been enjoying time with my family celebrating the season without realizing I was helping with it’s destruction, it is friggin’ brilliant!!!!
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:59
It proves that it was a national concern. The concern was the assault on the traditions of Christmas.
It there was no such assault, the Congress would not have expended the effort to create, debate and sign the document, of course.
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 22:34
No, it proves that Congress is pandering. Planned Parenthood never sold fetuses, yet Congress (well, Republicans) certainly got in an uproar and tried to defund Planned Parenthood based on an unproved claim. Pandering again. Didn’t make it true, just showed that facts really don’t matter when pandering.
Show me evidence of War on Christmas like I asked. Congress passing non-binding resolutions doesn’t prove there is any substance to your imaginary war. Give me actual, physical, tangible evidence. But since you can’t, you will just blow more hot air, make arguments with no factual foundation, and generally act aggrieved by imaginary enemies.
Physical proof, not statements made by people who ALSO don’t have proof, is what is required to support your “war.”
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:22
Different subject, first of all.
Second, there was much conflict in Congress about that defunding; this was almost unanimous.
Nice try at deflecting!
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:30
It’s not deflecting. I proves your “If Congress gets involved, then it MUST be true” is BS. If I prove your “It’s twue cuz Congress sez so” is BS, then you have NO proof. It can’t qualify as proof if I can show where it doesn’t reflect reality,
So, no physical proof. Claim that disputing your “proof” is changing the subject is the REAL deflection. And pretty telling evidence that you haven’t anything BUT hot air.
Tangible proof. Are you able to provide any? Of course not. Failure to provide it constitutes proof of there BEING no proof. Put up the proof or it ain’t true.
Physical verifiable proof is required. Congress don’t cut it. But we know, both you and I, that you don’t have anything more. You’d show it just to shut me up if it exists. Instead you go with deflection and projection.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:39
No, I was clear about what is true.
Then you answer why Congress went to all that trouble to write that proclamation, and then vote on it. And be sure to include why you think it received bipartisan support.
And also give an example of how one can give physical proof for a value.
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:42
Congress critters opinion is not TANGIBLE or PHYSICAL proof.
Failed again.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:49
So, now you are one of those who cannot accept any reality – love, honor, loyalty, morality – unless there is some way to quantitatively MEASURE it? Are you SERIOUS?
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:58
Failed again to provide proof. Nice deflection – naw, it’s actually a really stupid deflection.
Proof? You got none.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 00:11
Again (9th repetition): It is not quantifiable. You do not understand what is quantifiable and not. You do not understand the limits of operationalizing certain realities. You just throw out “scientific” and “tangible” (measurable) proof in a mindless fashion, unable to understand anything beyond using terms like that and playing your race card.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 00:46
Oh, so your position is YOU CAN’T prove it. Ergo, there is no reason to buy your position. Alex Jones can’t prove that lizard-aliens have taken over the government. Consequently, we have as much proof of lizard-alien infiltration as we have for Jebus.
If you can’t back up what you say, then there is no reason to believe it. A War must have SOME physical presence. The lack of any offered examples of that presence would tend to support a position that it doesn’t exist.
If you can’t prove it, then I have no obligation to think you aren’t as ignorant as the Geocentrists, the Creationists, the Flat Earthers….
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 01:35
I just did.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 02:03
You tried that before. Doesn’t work. Quote your proof, or show me the message where you did so.
Claiming without any verification is not proof. Until you can, I’ll just say that you are full of it. Where’s there the VERIFIABLE proof? “I just did” is a bald-faced lie. If it’s not, you should be able to verify it. And you call ME a liar? Where’s the proof, goof?
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:23
Planned Parenthood didn’t sell baby parts. Congressional Republicans tried to defund Planned Parenthood as a result. Their concern was based on a deliberate lie. Which, all by it’s little lonesome, shows that Congressional Republicans WILL expend effort based on untruths.
So your claim that it exists because Congress said so is ridiculous. And if that is ALL you have, you have less than nothing. Which is what I have said all along.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:28
I did not write about Planned Parenthood.
Did I?
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:40
Nope. I used Congress up in arms over a patently false and repeatedly debunked lie as EVIDENCE that Congress taking something up has nothing to do with its veracity. You just can’t deal with that disproof of your “evidence” of WWXmas and so try to paint it as a non-sequitur. it is exactly on point. It blows your contention that Congressional involvement proves anything (other than politicians are willing to pander.)
Provide physical, non-Congressional opinion, type of proof of WWXmas. Anything less shows you CANNOT.
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 23:48
No. Read again the second part: “strongly disapproves of attempts to ban references to Christmas”
That means that there WERE, in fact, attempts to ban references to Christmas.
Do you deny that meaning? How can anyone deny that meaning?
bpollen September 18th, 2016 at 23:59
Does NOT prove anything. Again you fail to provide tangible proof. You are on a roll! A failure roll!
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 00:11
“Tangible proof.”
LOL
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 00:41
Howzabout verifiable?
You’ve failed at that too. Lotsa rhetoric, nothing concrete. Hot air? The Montgolfier brothers are now airborne, so I’d say yes.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 01:34
I will cite data, and I know – with absolute certainty – that you will dream up some lame excuse to reject it: 92% of people surveyed by Pew reported that they celebrate Christmas.
Sometimes there are not the precise, exact wordings that those who are persnickety would like, but from that %, any mature and reasonable adult can conclude that almost all of those people would like to see the traditions of Christmas preserved, and, as Congress wrote, “recognizes the importance of the symbols and traditions of Christmas.”
You can be reasonable, or you can play word games. I think I know what you will do.
bpollen September 19th, 2016 at 02:11
92% celebrate Christmas. So much for your war on Xmas. Thank you for proving your war was bogus. Only 83% of Americans are Christian, but 92% celebrate Christmas? Oh, the horror.
Seems like a pretty clear indication that your war is non-existent. I ACCEPT your statistics at face value (didn’t “verify” that they are accurate) and it is much more indicative of your “War” being nonsense. More people celebrate it than are Christians, and the vast majority of Americans celebrate it. I see no evidence FOR the existence of this war.
RightThinkingOne September 19th, 2016 at 20:26
Dishonesty: I defined what I mean by “war.” I was perfectly clear and concise. No room for doubt. Look up the Supreme Court cases as I mentioned. I hope you do not demand to have them listed.
And an assault as clearly defined does not require huge percentages, of course.
bpollen September 20th, 2016 at 03:34
Where is your verifiable proof? Congresscritters see a win-win situation – the resolution will do nothing, it will change nothing, and 92% of the people like it, so I risk nothing.
No proof proves you to be a liar. Wanna play more, provide independently verifiable proof of this war. I can point to proof of WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War. There is independent proof of who declared it, what the sides were, who the leaders of the sides were, when war was declared, what battles were fought and where they were fought, who our casualties were…. All you provide is a bunch of power hungry saying “We like Christmas. Don’t be mean to it.”
Where’s the proof? Or are you JUST a racist troll. I see no reason to continue the subject until you can provide something other than an empty symbolic “We like Xmas” statement. By anybody.
Where’s your proof?
RightThinkingOne September 20th, 2016 at 19:13
I did, and you know it. Supreme Court. You want to dismiss it as “separation,” even though what I wrote PROVES you have nothing.
bpollen September 21st, 2016 at 02:31
Oh, I’m sorry, you and your sockpuppets have failed to prove there is a war on christmas. Creche cases don’t prove it. In each and every case, it could have been solved by moving it to private property rather than government property. Some were actually resolved JUST that way. In the vast majority of the others, Christian displays were allowed and displays by other religions were refused. Clearly a case of separation of church and state.
But people suing for xmas displays on government property doesn’t show a war on xmas… Just how many of your creche lawsuits (proof… that’s what you call it) were for displays on private property? The fact that there aren’t any proves it’s about separation.
All in all, you lost on this episode of “Prove the War on Xmas.”
Put up actual evidence. Nothing you’ve provided qualifies.
whatthe46 September 20th, 2016 at 03:45
how is there a war on X-Mas when people are spending stupid amounts of money on X-Mas?
RightThinkingOne September 20th, 2016 at 19:18
Go to the Supreme Court records.
whatthe46 September 20th, 2016 at 19:25
more like there’s a war on Muslims. phony ass “christians” need to get over themselves. they are not special by any means. if you have to tell someone you’re a “christian” as if it’s suppose to mean something, there’s a 99.9% chance you’re a hypocrite.
RightThinkingOne September 20th, 2016 at 20:38
It appears you take the side of civilization’s enemy.
whatthe46 September 20th, 2016 at 20:48
you have a problem with all religions, especially Islam, because they don’t follow your “god.” i’ve already told you that, because of the type of person you are, your “god” must be an ass.
RightThinkingOne September 20th, 2016 at 22:56
OK, you made an assertion. I will try to respect that you have reasons and rationales. Please then tell me what my “god” is. I would appreciate your stating the rationale for it.
Thank you.
whatthe46 September 20th, 2016 at 23:04
you have a “god” you believe in. he loves you. you’re a racist and a bigot, and if your “god” loves you and appreciates your hatred and ignorance, then, your “god” must be an ass. see simple huh?
RightThinkingOne September 20th, 2016 at 23:23
Perfect example of why I previously stopped responding to you, and why it is foolish of me to attempt to reason with the unreasonable.
whatthe46 September 20th, 2016 at 23:51
i’m not a racist or a bigot or deplorable. so, in that case i completely understand. now, go play in your own racist and haters backyard with your equally tRump loving idiots. hell, you haven’t proven me wrong. you still love your tRump. the pos that said, to your FACE, “i might lie to you, i just might lie to you.” well, that statement was a lie, because he said “might.” there’s no might about it. therefore, he lied. he called you “poorly educated.” you cheered. he told you, he could shoot someone in broad daylight, and still get votes, you cheered. he said despicable things about every ethnic group and attacked their culture, attacked their religion, and you cheered. he said, Muslim families, including children, should be killed, you cheered. he SAID he’s a “christian” and you cheered. so, i understand why it’s foolish of you to continue to communicate with me. i could NEVER cheer for what you believe in and i would NEVER agree with you and your hatred.
RightThinkingOne September 21st, 2016 at 01:03
LOL!
whatthe46 September 23rd, 2016 at 03:29
huh?
OldLefty September 23rd, 2016 at 08:10
That’s EXACTLY what many say about YOU!
Funny, how that works, huh?
OldLefty September 23rd, 2016 at 08:09
Tragic images from the war on Christmas;
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Obewon September 16th, 2016 at 01:12
Ailes Bill’O has more on Trump’s KKK endorsed racism.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 01:15
i don’t think that he truly comprehended what i was telling him about that post and its idiocy.
arc99 September 16th, 2016 at 02:18
Exactly what history do I have wrong?
RightThinkingOne September 18th, 2016 at 19:03
I documented the Congress.
amersham1046 September 15th, 2016 at 17:56
God will step aside and The Buddha will come in and pinch hit for him
Larry Schmitt September 15th, 2016 at 18:06
Have you ever seen Son O God comics, from National Lampoon? You can read them here.
http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/417/
ValianThor September 15th, 2016 at 18:31
You all should listen to Pat’s rendition of Prince’s “Purple Rain.” It rivals the version by Dwight Yoakum and the Okra group. BTW, Little Richard loved Boone’s version or Tutti Fruitti back in the 50’s; imitation is the sincerest….
LoisB September 15th, 2016 at 18:35
Good grief! We just had Labor Day, this “War on Christmas” is getting earlier every year.
Mike September 15th, 2016 at 18:52
He’s starting early…this could be his last Christmas
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 00:09
let us pray!
Um Cara September 15th, 2016 at 23:53
God is lifting “His hand of protection” from the nation, leading us to a presidential election “between two candidates no current majority wants.”
Then he must think God likes Obama better than W since Obama won by larger majorities.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 00:08
if he has a FB or twitter acct, you should send that to him, that’ll give him a heart attack for sure.
Gary Parillo September 16th, 2016 at 00:37
The hyper-sensitive constant whiny brand of american evangelicals have had so much freedom of expression for so long that they have lost sight of what “real” christian persecution consists of.In communist China and in many parts of the middle east,christians do not have time for such petty nonsense.They are too preoccupied with worshipping in basements and in hiding due to penalties that include imprisonment or death in such parts of the world,and christians living in those conditions would greatly value the freedom of american christianity.American evangelicals have become squawking little wimps and lost sight of reality.That, along with the fact that they are simply wacko.
oldfart September 16th, 2016 at 00:38
…And to look for his greatest hits CD in the bargin bin of your local wally world…
Gary Parillo September 16th, 2016 at 00:40
I thought the 99 cent store was the only place that still carried those.
oldfart September 16th, 2016 at 00:43
No, actually after Christmas, is where they all go until next Christmas. ;)
Gary Parillo September 16th, 2016 at 01:23
Then they have that antique quality to them.
whatthe46 September 16th, 2016 at 00:49
actually i think, i mean people are saying, that it’s being auctioned off for 1 penny.
Gary Parillo September 16th, 2016 at 01:18
Right next to the Trump family Christmas sing along CD,headlined by Donnys favorite song,”I’m dreaming of a white Christmas”
bpollen September 16th, 2016 at 05:15
The war is over! The war is over!
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David Ish September 16th, 2016 at 17:11
How can I get a copy of this?
bpollen September 17th, 2016 at 02:27
If you are using a computer based browser, you can right click and choose “save image” or something similar. If you are using a phone-based browser, I will have to leave that to those more learned in their use. I have a particularly dumb-phone.
jybarz September 16th, 2016 at 05:19
I think he’s pretty worried he’ll be alone and lonely in heaven.
So he’s just making sure everyone has to be as pious as he is.
You see many of his type in the conservative world and in Facebook too…LOOK at me, I’m so good and most devoted of all Christians…please type bloody AMEN or you will be cursed.
Mensa Member September 16th, 2016 at 09:33
Capitalism waged and won the war on Christmas decades ago.
As a devout Christian, I would be delighted if Christmas was no longer a public holiday.
David Ish September 16th, 2016 at 17:10
Christ said; “Give ALL to the poor”. Did you do it yet?
Bunya September 16th, 2016 at 14:45
He’s right, you know. The war on Christmas HAS begun. Just ask the guy who invented it; Bill O’Reilly. You can look forward to a never ending supply of bitchin’ and moanin’ from the right on the persecution of Christians up until December 25th – the winter solstice.
David Ish September 16th, 2016 at 17:09
NO One knows when the Christ was born. Before Christ this was 10 pagan groups that had 25 Dec their Holy of Holy day.
Hirightnow September 21st, 2016 at 23:29
Explain this “God”…does it really exist? I’ve never seen it, and saying that you can see god “in a sunset” merely implies that you’ve been staring into the sun too long.
So long, in fact, that you can’t see the dates on the stories, and have taken to commenting on older threads.
This is troubling, because people here tend to live in the present, not the past, and a lot of them will just ignore you when you post a reply to a month-old comment.They’ll fail to reply, thinking you some slow-witted person who took three to four weeks to think up a reply. By NOT replying to you, they could possibly give you the false impression that what you posted was so perfect it couldn’t be replied to. This could lead to you having an even more distorted opinion about your importance than you already seem to have.
And that, while hilarious, would just be sad for you.
Also, the messiah born of a virgin bit has been done by numerous religions, so which one should we put on public property?
RightThinkingOne September 22nd, 2016 at 01:09
Proving the existence of God is not the point: Wanting transcendence is part of human nature, and the mere fact that over all of human history, human beings have looked to this for a variety of reasons shows it is a human universal.
And even if one rejects it – based on what some may call “science” and demanding “proofs” – one cannot deny that it is so important that it is one of our natural rights, something that is inalienable.
I am not commenting on older threads. I am merely continuing a dialogue that started weeks ago.
As to your last question: Our culture, our very origins, are steeped in Christianity, right from our colonial era, so the answer is patently obvious.
bpollen September 22nd, 2016 at 02:59
You fail to provide evidence to support your premise.
America is a multi-faith community and you can’t handle it. Just like most religious bigots.
RightThinkingOne September 22nd, 2016 at 19:03
America’s very origins were Christian. But go ahead and say “we don’t have a theocracy” or something to that effect.
bpollen September 23rd, 2016 at 02:36
“America’s very origins were Christian.”
Untrue, David Barton.
As far as theocracy? First Amendment. Read it.
RightThinkingOne September 26th, 2016 at 19:10
Yes, the culture was overwhelmingly Christian. I have noticed that religio-phobes tend to distort such a statement. However, I was clear and I hope that helps.
bpollen September 27th, 2016 at 03:23
In 1776, this country was founded. In 1789, the 1st Amendment was passed. So, if we pretend to be demented and accept your fallacious claim, we were only a Christian nation for 13 years. Hope you enjoyed it.
Got any EVIDENCE? Where in the Constitution does it say “We be Christian?” You says LOTSA stuff, you provide ZERO evidence. This will be another one that you will present BS instead of evidence.
Without evidence, I see no reason to continue the discussion. People can claim all sorts of stupid shite, and why should it be taken seriously if it is ONLY talk talk talk and no walk.
Reality-based claims actually have evidence. Bullshit doesn’t. Got evidence?
RightThinkingOne September 27th, 2016 at 21:45
Please read. When I wrote “But go ahead and say “we don’t have a theocracy” or something to that effect,” it was merely prolepsis.
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 03:10
You say “prolepsis” – the anticipation of an argument (Ohhh, somebody bought a thesaurus!)
I say “bring the subject up, then claim you are anticipating the other person bringing it up.” My prolepsis? You will present nothing to prove your clairvoyance, nor your CryptoChristian propaganda (which is really delightfully two-faced since you claim to not be a believer.)
I got the Constitution. You’ve got your interpretation of intent… that directly contradicts what’s in the Constitution. Again, when you can disprove the Constitution, bring it. Until then, all you got is smoke and mirrors.
You failed AGAIN!
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 19:42
I do not use a thesaurus. You are only looking for a source, any source, of contention because you do not like my positional positions. I refuse to try to select words that do not appear difficult.
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 23:44
It’s not the difficulty of the words, it’s the use and the user.
You bring up the subject and then claim you are anticipating my bringing up the subject you ALREADY brought up, all by your lonesome. You’d fail on Password.
I anticipated that you would not provide evidence and you didn’t. You anticipated I brought up something that you had already brought up. Now you are Billy Pilgrim, unstuck in time!
Fail.
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 23:51
No, it is the difficulty of the words. YOU specifically referred to it and defined it. LOL
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 00:00
Yup. I specifically referred to it and defined it to show you were talking nonsense. You can’t claim to anticipate MY bringing up what you brought up FIRST.
Fail again. If you were in baseball, your batting average is .000
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 00:14
Nope. I simply used a word, and you thought it was a hard word. So, you made that puerile remark about the thesaurus and defined it. *I* just used the word, and YOU are the one who started obsessing about it.
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 00:33
Sure, you bring it up. Then claim you predicted *I* would bring it up.
You could call it a WAG, a prognostication, a lie, a tourniquet, a pork-chop – it’s still YOU bring it up and patting yourself on the back for predicting that I would bring it up.
You fail.
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 02:55
Nope. I did not claim you would bring up that word. I predicted you would bring up something else. Please read.
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 03:06
When I wrote “But go ahead and say “we don’t have a theocracy” or something to that effect,” it was merely prolepsis.
You mean read that where you said “theocracy” and then said it was prolepsis? You mean your own sentence that shows you saying that bringing UP theocracy was prolepsis?
Fail. Hoist on your own bullshit.
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 03:09
Yes. I anticipated – based on your posts – that you would start that. Religio-phobes generally write something to that effect, and I did not want to lower myself to start explaining how wrong that is.
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 03:20
I predicted you would bring up something else.
You say you did, you say you didn’t, but YOU brought it up. I never claimed this was a Christian nation. YOU did. Ergo, YOU brought up theocracy. Then you tell me to go ahead and say we weren’t a theocracy. Then you say “Aha! Told ya you were going to bring it up.”
Bankrupt argument that is internally inconsistent.
Fail.
RightThinkingOne September 27th, 2016 at 22:13
Many of those who are nescient about our history think that our origins – what we inherited and led to our Independence, culture and form of government – suddenly, “poof,” just started in 1776.
Yes, of course I have evidence. Look at what the Founders DID: Had Bibles printed, had Christian chaplains, etc. Heck, they had Christian ministers come and say a prayer before starting EVERY SINGLE day of Congress – and that is STILL going on!
Don’t start the “quote war”; that would be puerile. Go by what they OFFICIALLY did, what Congress actually did. Then one can more clearly see the overwhelming Christian influences.
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 03:04
Yes, of course I have evidence. Look at what the Founders DID
They passed the 1st Amendment AFTER they passed Article VI, clause 3.
Who needs quotes? I got the Constitution (what Congress actually did.)
You fail again. You have yet to present any data or totally non-subjective evidence to support any of your contentions..
You fail again. When you can bring evidence that disproves the Constitution, then we can continue this troll-o-rama.
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 19:41
Yes, for the NATIONAL government. The founders DID include RELIGIOUS TESTS for holding office at the state levels. And those states that did have those “tests” had no problem retaining them after we became a nation. They gave up those tests, of course, but not because of any constitutional issue. They did it on their own.
And again: The Founders themselves helped to write those state constitutions in which there were specific religious tests (qualifications) to hold public office.
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 23:45
Article VI, Clause 2
Fail. Your will have to repeat High School Civics to graduate.
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 23:51
You wrote “Clause 3.”
LOL
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 23:58
You wrote “Clause 3.”
LOL
Yes, in another message.
Clause 3 – No religious test for office
Clause 2 – Federal law trumps (see what I did there?) state law.
2 points, 2 clauses, 2 debunkings. LOL.
Fail. LOL²
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 00:12
Yes, you were wrong on that one, even more so, and you were unable to write a single rejoinder, so you just “forgot about it.”
LOL
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 00:35
Article VI, both Clause 2 and 3.
!st Amendment to the Constitution.
The Constitution is my rejoinder. You can discount it (very American of you) but it is still there with the same text.
You fail to counter the Constitution. Failure.
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 02:56
History, the founders, documentation of state constitutions, limiting the federal power in the constitution, and the countless actions (church services in government buildings, paid for by the national government is one PATENTLY OBVIOUS one) of the national government.
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 03:03
Again, you fail. Constitutions still says the same thing.
You REALLY suck at this.
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 03:08
Again: History, the founders, the state constitutions. Don’t you even know that our Constitution comes in large part from state constitutions?
LOL
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 03:25
LOL.
Still fail to disprove the actual text of the actual Constitution which expressly states it supersedes state legislation.
Fail.
RightThinkingOne September 28th, 2016 at 23:52
You were totally unable to discuss all of that information that I posted. You did not offer a single rejoinder to the multitude of facts. You asked for “facts?” For “proof?” Well, I now see how you deal with them.
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 23:55
So, maybe you want me to give you the TEXT of the Supremacy clause so you get your preferred word to nonsense ratio? Article VI, Clause 2 shows that religious tests in the states are superseded by Federal law. Again, what CONGRESS DID.
Again. you fail.
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 00:12
Nope. Go by what the Founders actually did. I know that later there were SCOTUS interpretations. But it was not what our Framers intended. Look at their actions. You are wrong.
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 00:38
You told me to go by what they DID.
They approved the Constitution (including the aforementioned Article and dependent clauses) and the 1st Amendment.
You still fail to disprove what is written in plain text in the Constitution. Fail.
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 02:56
Nope. Read the previous post. You are wrong.
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 03:02
Great evidence. “Nope.” Devastating. “You are wrong.” Incredibly deep and all-encompassing rebuttal.
You fail to disprove the Constitution. You ARE the weakest link.
RightThinkingOne September 29th, 2016 at 03:07
My posts were cogent and correct.
bpollen September 29th, 2016 at 03:28
Again, just an amazing, detailed rebuttal!
“Nuh-uh!”
Please, please, don’t tell me I have cooties!!!! You have destroyed me!
Fail.
RightThinkingOne September 27th, 2016 at 22:16
One more piece of important information. It follows a series of steps:
1. The Founders not only wrote the national Constitution, they helped to write the state constitutions in their respective states.
2. Most state constitutions – that the founders helped to write – included religious requirements, almost all specifically Christian, to hold office.
Evidence, sir, evidence.
bpollen September 28th, 2016 at 02:59
Evidence sir, evidence.
Amendment #1.
whatthe46 September 23rd, 2016 at 03:27
you couldn’t be anymore wrong!
RightThinkingOne September 26th, 2016 at 19:13
Look at our colonies. Read our history instead of condemning and hating our nation.
Gary Parillo September 23rd, 2016 at 02:57
Merry Christmas Pat!
Hirightnow September 26th, 2016 at 20:17
Explain how you arrived at that conclusion. And remember; “civilization” is a fluid term.
RightThinkingOne September 26th, 2016 at 21:03
“Those who argue that liberals can’t possibly believe in their own ideology because it leads to national and civilizational suicide misunderstand that liberals do not regard themselves as part of the nation or civilization. Their loyalities are to the fictitious nation or civilization that they’ve constructed in their imaginations… and they have ‘disengaged’ from the existing or traditional ones and wish to see them destroyed (or ‘overcome’ or ‘liberated’ or ‘transcended,’ euphemisms that all mean destruction). Suicide of the nation, race, and civilization is exactly what they want… and that’s what liberals help do.”
-Samuel Francis
amersham1046 September 28th, 2016 at 22:10
Tis time you took you white sports coat and pink carnation and shuffled off in to the sunset
whatthe46 September 28th, 2016 at 22:12
oh, i had another idea what he could do with that stuff. well, you know me…
amersham1046 September 28th, 2016 at 22:13
well only in the biblical sense
oldfart September 29th, 2016 at 00:41
Sorry pat, god doesn’t choose sides
And Cruz lost.