Father of American Muslim killed in Iraq to Trump: Have you read the constitution?
The father of a Muslim American soldier who was killed in Iraq struck a chord on the final day of the Democratic National Congress, as he challenged Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to read the Constitution. Addressing thousands of delegates in Philadelphia on Thursday evening, Khizr Khan, flanked by his wife Ghazala, remembered his son Humayun…
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Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 09:19
I didn’t even see any claims or statements where anyone promoted violating the constitution IN THAT SPEECH. Did you ?
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 09:50
Please define the following key words in your post.
“claims”
“statements”
“violating”
“constitution”.
whatthe46 July 29th, 2016 at 10:01
Sure you’ll be able to decypher word salad?
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 10:40
Yes, it says take a salad mixer and shove it down your throat or maybe up other places :D
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 10:44
I love the smell of angry libertarians in the morning.
whatthe46 July 29th, 2016 at 10:58
I’m laughing so hard at this fool. He’s like a scratched record. Repeating himself and not making a bit of sense.
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 11:03
You should, they support your right to freedom of association which you won’t support for others :D
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 11:48
That was the straw, right there.
Bye. :D
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 16:10
I don’t exactly know what your post means but I hope you did not do something that keeps Pearce’s posts off this site..
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 16:23
I’ll tolerate the occasional insult, and it’s nice to have a punching bag so easily refuted, but he crossed the line with that post.
He can, of course, appeal to Alan, Meamark,or Carla.
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 16:46
Have you ever listened to Allen’s show?
What makes his show outstanding is that he let’s everyone voice their opinion.
But I guess we can thank you for not continuing Allen’s fairness
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 16:52
If you did ban him, all’s you did was prove his argument true.
Thanks alot.
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 18:30
So? His “arguments” were specious at best, and I’mnot here to impress anyone, just to maintain a bit of civility.
Any idiot can claim that they were banned because “That site can’t handle the truth!”,but if that “truth” includes scatological remarks having nothing to do with the topic, then it’s not welcome here.
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 18:39
I would guess that over half of the posts on this site are scatological remarks having nothing to do with the subject.
Just be honest and admit you personally did not like the guy..
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 18:42
Towards whom?
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 18:44
HAHAHAHAHAHAH now you sound like Pearce.
Are you doing that on purpose??
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 18:49
Perhaps.
At any rate,it was my decision to make, and it’s made. I’m simply doing what I believe is the publisher’s intent.
If you think I’ve erred, contact Alan, or meamark, or Carla, or Anomaly and state your grievances; I’m low mod on the totem pole.
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 18:57
OK fine.
Look, I am the last guy that would ever rat anybody out and notify Alan….. and I realize you made a tough call.
Actually I can see your point of view. Pearce was taking a run at whatthe and I would have booted him myself just for that reason alone.
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 19:04
You are free to make suggestions as to what any public figure puts anywhere for any reason; they’re fair game, and unless the language gets vile, I really don’t care (but be creative, please!).
But calling another poster an “ignorant Hillary-loving sheeple” is a few steps away from suggesting they put kitchen implements into their orifices.
Glad we could come to an accord.
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 17:41
Maybe you should read this
lib·er·al
ˈlib(ə)rəl/Submit
adjective
1.
open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.
“they have more liberal views toward marriage and divorce than some people”
2.
(of education) concerned mainly with broadening a person’s general knowledge and experience, rather than with technical or professional training.
synonyms: wide-ranging, broad-based, general
“a liberal education”
Get it?? Liberaland??
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 18:07
I do what the boss wants.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn24/Quentin_Adam_Green/Capture1c-vert_zpsi0e44utx.jpg
Honest debate is one thing; what he said wasn’t honest debate.
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 18:33
If you take the time to read Alan’s post to Um Cara you will find you just did the opposite of “what the boss wants”..
Let’s be honest you were looking to wack this guy from the time he first showed up..
Because you did not how to argue with him
Who are you going to ban next? A liberal that disagrees with you??
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 18:42
Had I been “looking to wack this guy from the time he first showed up”, I would have.
But no, he was not banned, because he brought out some pretty good rebuttals from people (yourself included), and filled out the threads.
I really don’t care if someone is liberal, conservative, libertarian, Marxist, communist, anarchist, or none of the above; everyone here is free to state their opinions and put forth arguments that either prove their point, or prove they’re a fool (and believe me, there’s no group that hasn’t had someone do that at one time or another, myself being no exception).
But I will not tolerate the type of vomment he made.
He is more than welcome to start a new disqus account using a new e-mail, and come back. But when he says something like that, he gets banned again.
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 10:03
Please define “please” :D
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 10:18
Just trying to set some ground rules for a discussion.
I am not going to allow you to disappear down the abstract, fact free libertarian rat hole.
Before you start preaching An immature and unrealistic philosophy generally embraced by male adolescents, or those who think like male adolescents.
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 10:26
You want to do that ? Show me where in the speech anyone mentioned an incident that violates the constitution ?
That was my original post.
Try answering a question rather than trying to make insults to show how great your views are ?
Rather weak and pathetic :D
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 10:31
Over the years I have discovered that
LIBERTARIANS are a self-righteous lot.
If you don’t set some ground rules and agreed upon definitions before the discussion you will eventually find yourself arguing about cave men.
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 10:39
And I’ve discovered that people like you supporting state-mandated associations to achieve their left-wing goals are noting more than LEFT-WING FASCISTS :)
bpollen July 29th, 2016 at 16:17
You throw that word “FASCIST” around a lot, and yet you make up your own definition of it, which just proves his point that talking with you since YOUR definitions are different than the ACTUAL definitions.
Hey, that sounds like fun! I can change definitions to suit my purposes! “Left-wing” becomes “pretty damn smart wing” and “right-wing” becomes “WTF is wrong with them wing.” Libertarian becomes “Look, i’m getting hair down there!”
whatthe46 July 29th, 2016 at 10:55
I fricken love that post!!!!!
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 11:36
“I love to teach ’em after they had a miracle.”
Reverend Earnest Ainsley.
Hey whatthe, here is why I love love love Jennifer Granholm.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jennifer-granholm-convention_us_579aa5d0e4b0e2e15eb5476c
whatthe46 July 29th, 2016 at 12:07
That was great when she three that line at him. Think this is about you.
fahvel July 29th, 2016 at 10:32
well well said!!!
fahvel July 29th, 2016 at 10:33
it’s when idiots like yourself beg to be paid attention too. The more sht you spew the more fun people who think can have.
arc99 July 29th, 2016 at 10:26
Religious tests (e.g. are you a Muslim) are a violation of Article 6
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 10:28
Ahh religion is just ONE of many beliefs !
To violate freedom of religion means you have to violate freedom of (religious) belief !
Banning people from coming into the country violates no one’s freedom of belief !
arc99 July 29th, 2016 at 10:30
I will let the facts speak for themselves. Trump said nothing about which country. He said Muslim. You really should educate yourself on the facts before expressing an opinion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-explains-how-his-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-u-s-would-work/
Would airline representatives, customs agents or border guards ask a person’s religion?
“They would say: ‘Are you Muslim?'” Trump said.
“And if they said, ‘yes,’ they would not be allowed in the country?” Geist asked.
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 10:37
Asking people what they believe is hardly a violation of their beliefs!
Banning people from entering the country doesn’t violate their freedom of religious belief!
arc99 July 29th, 2016 at 10:42
I will stick to the Constitution which is the foundation of our laws.
Your OPINIONS are not.
bpollen July 29th, 2016 at 16:06
“Banning people from entering the country doesn’t violate their freedom of religious belief!”
Who said it does?
arc99 July 29th, 2016 at 10:32
Your opinion about religion is entirely irrelevant.
Article 6
but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 10:35
LOL, once again, just go out and say other’s beliefs are irrelevant to prove your are great :D
How pathetic.
Remember – we are talking about IMMIGRATION! Not running for office or telling citizens what they have to believe .
arc99 July 29th, 2016 at 10:39
Since immigration law is not based on your beliefs, but on the United States Constitution, your beliefs are irrelevant, as well as pathetic.
Then there is the 14th amendment. The last clause of Section 1 is not restricted to citizens. Not just citizens, it says PERSONS.
You asked about the DNC speaker claiming that he did no identify any Constitutional violation. I am pointing out the unConstitutional proposals coming from the Trump campaign. To that point, your opinions are completely irrelevant. There was good reason to suggest Trump needs to read the Constitution.
Amendment 14
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Howard Pearce @HAPlibertarian July 29th, 2016 at 10:54
“Since immigration law is not based on your beliefs”
If that is so, then beliefs become irrelevant by your own statement without some obligation that people MUST NOT consider one’s belief.
I bet the law does allow those making decisions to form general judgments.
We would let people into this country regardless of what they believe? I doubt it. What if they believe that everyone else immigrating into the country should kill jews – and say so?
And I didn’t ask what was said elsewhere, But I find it very confusing that someone to tell Trump to read the constitution without any basis in the article as to why very suspicious OR the he himself needs to read the constitution
bpollen July 29th, 2016 at 16:03
“If that is so, then beliefs become irrelevant by your own statement without some obligation that people MUST NOT consider one’s belief.”
Really worked the ol’ Word Salad Spinner for that load of crap, didn’t you?
eyelashviper July 29th, 2016 at 11:17
thank you…you have far more patience than I.
Listening to his drivel is a waste of precious seconds of my life.
bpollen July 29th, 2016 at 16:01
Maybe Mr. Khan has a copy for you?
You obviously have never heard of the 14th Amendment. See, after the 1st Amendment came the 2nd Amendment. But, Hapless, they didn’t stop there. They added MORE. And one of those, the 14th, says that we all have the right to equal protection under the law.
How in the HELL did you get the impression that people thought the Muslim ban violated the 1st?
burqa July 29th, 2016 at 20:01
This part:
“Donald Trump, you are asking Americans to trust you with our future. Let me ask you: Have you even read the US constitution? I will gladly lend you my copy. In this document, look for the words liberty and equal protection of law.”
Equal protection under the law – see the 14th Amendment. Further, Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act bans discrimination on the basis of religion.
My copy of the Constitution also contains the text of the Declaration of Independence.
Ever read it, Mr. Pearce? There’s a section where they list the offences of King George III that caused them to declare independence.
Here’s one near the top:
“He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither,”
So are we to believe that you, a Libertarian of some sort, wants to discriminate on the basis of religion and would have stood with King George III during the Revolution?
mistlesuede July 29th, 2016 at 09:40
This was one of the speakers whose speech stuck in my list of favorite moments. There were so many, the list is very, very long. I stopped in my tracks from what I was doing, sat down and listened intently.
Suzanne McFly July 29th, 2016 at 09:43
He was hard not to listen to, it was a very moving speech to say the least.
Suzanne McFly July 29th, 2016 at 09:42
I accidentally turned the channel to faux entertainment this morning and it was like watching a car crash, I couldn’t turn away. They were talking about how horrible the convention went and how Hillary’s speech fell flat. It was like I was in a different universe, they were saying the exact opposite of what everyone else was saying. No wonder they cannot call themselves anything other than an entertainment network, they are not making sense to the large majority of us. Most of us don’t hate people just because they are different than us or vote for the other party, watching that channel you would think we live our daily lives fighting against the “other”.
mistlesuede July 29th, 2016 at 09:57
I just heard on the Stephanie Miller show that Fux News made sure that they did not cover a moment of this man’s speech. They went to commercials and talked over it.
whatthe46 July 29th, 2016 at 10:00
Immature hateful idiots.
mistlesuede July 29th, 2016 at 10:14
It burns me that they are allowed to use the term “news.”
It’s like the book 1984 with the daily hate on the screen.
No need to inform people about what is really happening.
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 10:19
I guess firing Roger Ailes did not have much of an effect.
Suzanne McFly July 29th, 2016 at 22:22
Not yet at least….
Suzanne McFly July 29th, 2016 at 10:22
This is such a vile group of humans. Poster models for condoms if you will.
Roctuna July 29th, 2016 at 10:35
At least condoms are useful. Can’t say that about any of the talking heads at faux news, with the possible exception of Shepherd Smith, who’s had his objective moments.
mistlesuede July 29th, 2016 at 10:36
Exactly. They are all wh*res for $$$ spreading hate and misinformation, who yell about the Democrat’s discussion of a war on women and say it doesn’t exist. Meanwhile Ailes was using the “network” for his pursuit of women and basically holding them hostage. And they still don’t get that they were part of the WOW.
Suzanne McFly July 29th, 2016 at 10:45
Hypocrisy, thy name has become republican.
Julie G July 29th, 2016 at 10:42
They actually panned Obama’s speech right after, although Newt was a guest and he praised the delivery but said it was a story.
burqa July 29th, 2016 at 19:28
Wouldn’t it be great, on Election Day, to see Karl Rove turn in another performance like the one he entertained us with in 2012?
Those clowns have a big surprise in store. They have nominated the perfect candidate for Hillary to run against. I don’t claim to fully understand women, but I have the strong impression that the women of America are sick of blustering blowhard sexists like Trump who have leered, cheated and otherwise offended them by treating them as chattel. I think the rage of American women will build like a mighty wave in the ocean and wipe this clown out like a child’s sand castle on the beach.
I think Hillary will also get the votes of those who voted for Obama in 2012, and cruise to an easy victory because women, African Americans and Latinos will compose a significantly greater portion of the electorate.
Not only will Trump be smashed, but the GOP will be shattered like a martini glass dropped from the Empire State Building.
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 19:32
Assuming Mrs. Clinton wins the election (and if the Trump campaign continues on its present course, it’s not a stretch to think she will)), I will not be surprised to see gatherings of armed “patriots” gathering in some areas, upset because the election was “stolen” from the AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!1!”, and ready to “take the country back!”…
I just hope the cameras are rolling, for all to see.
burqa July 29th, 2016 at 20:05
Yeah, they’ll want to take their country “back” from Americans.
Seriously, it’s hard to predict, but I think they’ll be so stunned and in such a daze that they’ll just wander around like zombies.
We’ll see them in the supermarket, glassy-eyed, pushing empty shopping carts around for hours….
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 20:25
See, that’s what worries me.
They’ll do that, and then somebody in front of them puts a shirt on the scanner saying “Hillary/Pence 2016”, and …
It won’t be a BB gun, and there won’t be alert LEOs around to stop the scary black guy.
Suzanne McFly July 29th, 2016 at 20:38
I hope so, I don’t know how it can happen any other way due to everything that slob stands for. However, I don’t want to feel too secure in Hillary’s win, bush one twice (according to the SCOTUS). I won’t rest till November 9th and if the winner isn’t Hillary, I will be doing all I can to hold our politicians accountable for watching everything he does.
OldLefty July 29th, 2016 at 11:09
Great piece From TPM;
The Reviews Are In: Conservatives Say The DNC Was ‘Disaster’ For The GOP
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conservatives-agree-dnc-was-disaster-for-gop
eyelashviper July 29th, 2016 at 11:14
The appearances and speeches by so may good people, the Real Americans we hear about, were so profound and heartwarming. This man was eloquent and fiery with righteous anger at Trump, I loved his every word.
anothertoothpick July 29th, 2016 at 11:40
In case you missed my favorite Jennifer Granholm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGTkceRpXBk
She is the best.
eyelashviper July 29th, 2016 at 11:42
Thanks, I watched it all, on C-Span, no interruptions by jabberint nitwit pundits..it was a grand night.
Gary Parillo July 29th, 2016 at 15:30
No mr. Khan,he hasnt read the constitution with the exception of article 12.Beyond that he only reads the national enquirer and two corinthians.
StoneyCurtisll July 29th, 2016 at 18:37
How stupid are the voters in parts of Texas?…
Stupid enough to elect this ignorant, toothless, fool…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0orCxH_E1_k
burqa July 29th, 2016 at 20:08
………………………mebbe he can get the NoKos to give up the USS Pueblo….
StoneyCurtisll July 29th, 2016 at 20:31
Now thats funny~!
burqa July 29th, 2016 at 19:17
It was beautiful hearing this father’s speech. It was moving just now to read the text of it.
I never tire of reading stories of immigrants to this country. They go far to reminding us of the greatness of our country and how important it is that we maintain the values that made this country what it is.
Hirightnow July 29th, 2016 at 19:25
Meanwhile, the Trump campaign has released a response video, featuring their own “you’re gonna feel sorry for this guy” spokesman…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtmi4Nc-3dE&t=1m3s
Ned Nutley July 30th, 2016 at 14:05
Imagine a letter from Trump to the relatives of a soldier
who died in war — Dear whomever, your killed in battle
father / son / spouse was a LOSER, and I hate LOSERS,
you’re FIRED, sincerely Donald T.
and what was it he said again to McCain, “I prefer my
heroes to not get killed, OK?”