Paris Shooters Shouted, ‘This Is For Syria!’
Inside the Paris concert hall, shooters yelled, “This is for Syria! This is for Syria!” according to eyewitnesses.
KENZO TRIBOUILLARD/AFP/Getty Images)Local channel France 24 reports that 100 people are currently being held hostage by gunmen across the city, including at the Bataclan theater, where Eagles of Death Metal were performing a sold-out concert this evening. Athough the suspects have not yet been identified, witnesses inside the Bataclan reported that the shooters who were hiding among the concert patrons shouted “This is for Syria, this is for Syria.”…
The incidents took place at the Bataclan in Paris as well as the Stade de France, which is located just north of Paris, where a soccer match was being held between France and Germany.
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burqa November 13th, 2015 at 18:40
I hate seeing this, I am passionate about Paris, having been there over 15 times on trips ranging from 2 weeks to 4-1/2 months there.
2 of my biggest love affairs were with women I met there, and I spent a great deal of time with one in an apartment right behind the building where the Charlie Hebdo attack took place.
ISIS has been bound to overplay their hand and this may be it.
I haven’t heard anything on European consideration of sending in troops to attack ISIS but this could tip the balance. The French have excellent special forces and I believe they still have at last 2 battalions of Foreign Legion troops which are very good.
Since it is an attack on a NATO country, all the others are obligated to respond.
But right now I am feeling awful for this city which I love so much. I have always been treated like a king there and still have friends there.
AmethystTear November 13th, 2015 at 22:37
I saw on one of the newscasts that the President of France has already vowed revenge. I’m not in favor of war and was hoping ti could be avoided but if France goes in I think the U.S. should back them up. We’ve tried to be peaceful and tried to do the right thing. Doesn’t there come a time where you have to take a stand?
Robert Smithson November 13th, 2015 at 23:32
Yes, there is a time to take a stand. France has been hit twice in less than a year. It’s time to get Obama’s much ballyhooed 60 nation coalition together and go kick some serious ISIS butt! Come on President Obama, step up to the plate and lead!
Red Mann November 14th, 2015 at 00:13
OK, Yosemite Sam, I expect your boots to be on the ground, your shootin iron blastiaway.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 01:29
who did we stand against because of 9/11 in ’01? DID WE GET THE BAD GUYS?
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 00:32
i hope he first calms down. and think with his head instead of his heart and not pull a fk’n bushy/dick and go after the wrong people. recognize who you’re going up against with intelligence first. although, bush had intelligence telling him we were about to be attacked, he ignored it and decided to go after the wrong people for the wrong fuckin’ reason. so, i just want them to be smart. otherwise, it’ll only get worse. thanks georgie.
burqa November 15th, 2015 at 02:45
Yes indeed, there comes a time when one has to take a stand. In this case, I think Hollande is right because they are going to keep attacking them.
I agree, we should give them all the support we can.
I don’t like war either, but when it is thrust upon you, the only thing to do is fight or let them continue killing your people.If your people are going to be killed, may as well kill as many of the enemy as you can.
Suzanne McFly November 13th, 2015 at 20:00
The slob trump just put out a tweet about this attack saying how this incident is being carried out in a city that has tight gun control and he was replied back to by a French politician (sorry, I missed which one). The politician said that tweet is vulgar and does not make the current situation any better. He can sink no lower.
Suzanne McFly November 13th, 2015 at 20:11
I just found it, it was the French ambassador to the U.S.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 01:28
i wish i could say, yes sir Gerard Araud, you’re absolutely right. tRump is a waste land of vile shit that flies won’t touch.
Tommie November 14th, 2015 at 00:32
And what about when we got hit here, in a country where damn near everybody has a gun, they do not care, they will hit anybody anywhere at anytime! IMO!
burqa November 15th, 2015 at 02:39
Smacked him in the face with a tennis racket.
Great pull, Ms. McFly.
burqa November 13th, 2015 at 20:18
Way to be on the ball, Ms. McFly.
Is Anomaly on Twitter, or any of the other moderators?
If so, would you mind sending them a tweet that we have been moderator-less for nearly 5 hours? I’ve been waiting since 3:30 to have a post approved and unapproved posts are piling up in one thread. I gave a link in the “Post Here Yourself” thread.
Isn’t it a shame that Trump wasn’t there with his .38 to save the day!
The Paris fuzz comes around in squads of about a dozen, armed with assault rifles.
One time I was bombed and sitting there watching some buskers on the rue St. Andre des Arts once when I looked up and a group of these guys were surrounding me, looking like they meant business. Luckily I pulled it together enough to appear somewhat sober and they left me alone…..
Suzanne McFly November 13th, 2015 at 20:27
I will find out if anyone is around. Funny story about France, I have been stationed in Spain and got hauled back to the barracks in a paddy wagon lol. Some of my best stories are times when I was partaking in adult activities.
burqa November 15th, 2015 at 02:36
Never been to Spain (but I kinda like the music), but I been to France over 15 times. I have some pretty good stories from there, too.
Might be nice to meet and swap some stories sometime.
I’ve always said Paris is a great city to fall in love in as well as to get over a breakup.
I got near Spain, in the foothills of the Pyrenees in the Haute Garonne. The family of a former girlfriend had a vacation house down there and I had some great times running around back roads in an old French car whose stick shift was a lever on the dashboard nxt to the radio.
I’ve been wanting to go back for several reasons, one is an all night catered New Year’s party held in a little village I’ve attended a couple times. It is where I discovered the pleasures of Armagnac.
Suzanne McFly November 13th, 2015 at 20:33
I told them.
AmethystTear November 13th, 2015 at 22:40
It’s disgusting that he would use a time like this to say such a thing. Of course, Donald Trump has proven there is no low he won’t sink to.
I do have to admit though I did think about it as I sat watching coverage and knowing that each hostage was being shot one by one. I’m not saying that gun control is wrong or right and certainly don’t feel like tonight would be the time to talk about. Yet, I know I wished that one of them did have a gun.
Robert Smithson November 13th, 2015 at 23:20
Guess what? There is lenty of gun control in France. Military style weapons are banned from the general public as are hand grenades and bombs. So despite these prohibitions, the lowlife’s still got weapons .Gun control does not work. Got it?
AmethystTear November 13th, 2015 at 23:44
You missed the part where I said I wasn’t saying it was wrong or right.
When Paris is still trying to figure out how many people they have lost and make sense of this terrible tragedy, a future President should not be making political statements on an issue he only started caring about when he decided to become a Republican after years of being a democrat.
Basic human empathy does work. Got it? :)
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 01:23
DID YOU JUST CALL tRump a “future presid(cough)ent?” WTF?
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 01:33
I meant presidential candidate. Of course, despite the fact he’s batshit crazy, he is the leading candidate on the Republican side. So he might be the president which is a scary thought. The whole point is he once again showed why he shouldn’t be president.
Red Mann November 14th, 2015 at 00:07
A plethora guns would not have made the situation any better and most likely have vastly raised the death count with bullets flying wildly about. You ammosexuals all think that you’re John f*cking Wayne and take out ten bad guys with one shot and never even get nicked.
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 01:00
I think it depends on who was using it. Someone like my husband who is military trained, has a Concealed Carry and knows what he is doing could have made a difference. Someone with no training and no experience in combat like situations would probably cause more harm than good.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 01:18
a trained military vet who was a student and had a weapon at the time of the Oregon shooting, where 10 people were murdered, was just as trained. and he was very smart. he realized that if he had attempted to do anything, he would have been killed by police. because the police would have not been able to distinguish the “good” guy from the “bad” guy with a gun. and if you think that your husband would have looked like a good guy to anyone else, who thinks they too are the good guy, then maybe your husband would be shot as well if they had a gun. it goes around and around and around. does that make sense?
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 01:32
Assessing all those variables is part of the training so if he thought there was a risk that had very little gain he would make the choice not to pull the gun. Situational awareness is one of the big things that they teach in the military. I am pretty sure if my husband thought he could actually get the terrorists without innocent casualties, he probably would be willing to take that risk for himself. If not, he wouldn’t.
Red Mann November 14th, 2015 at 01:56
In a chaotic situation like that identifying the target and getting a clean shot would challenge the best trained people, with a large number of carriers many mistakes would undoubtedly be made.
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 02:21
I think that’s fair. You wouldn’t really know that unless you were actually there. Most of the well trained people are trained to know if you can get a shot or not. Honestly though,once they started killing people off one by one and then started tossing grenades around I think the potential gain would out weigh the risk at that point. I’m not military and I am not a shooter, so I can’t say for sure.
Robert Smithson November 14th, 2015 at 07:25
But at least the armed person would have a chance, but with your negative thinking everyone dies. But that’s liberal thought for you – don’t fight back, just become a victim.
Robert Smithson November 14th, 2015 at 07:20
I never said that. All I was trying to pint out that even with extreme gun control laws, deadly weapons including hand grenades and bombs were obtained.
CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:52
Outside of the country and smuggled in…so that would make it a smuggling problem wouldn’t it?
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 12:53
Yes, it’s a smuggling problem but the end result is still the same. The bad guys had all the weapons and the people in the concert hall were sitting ducks. I don’t want gun violence continue and agree with the points you made about gun violence but I also think that having the whole population unarmed has risks that can be mitigated with laws that at least allow those who are well trained to carry weapons. I think like most issues the conservative and liberals argue over, there is a common ground to be found.
Red Mann November 14th, 2015 at 17:38
So we should just do away with all attempts to control weaponry and return to the Wild West mode with shootouts everywhere, except with assault weapons, rockets, bombs and the whole nine yards. Again simple solutions for simple minds.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 00:15
and with their laws, there are far less murders. the latest i could find was in 2012. the total number of homicides by guns, were 140. in the US, the total in 2012, were 8,855. that’s homicide. so get off your ignorant ass high horse and realize, what we have isn’t working and there’s are. it’s much easier to get whatever the fk you want in this country. American citizen or not. cause of jackasses like you, who are too paranoid to think beyond reason.
fahvel November 14th, 2015 at 04:22
they work quite well ahole.
Robert Smithson November 14th, 2015 at 07:18
Sure they do d#ckbrain, and the over 100 dead proves it, right?
CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:50
they only had around 100 gun deaths there last year, we had over 33,000
burqa November 15th, 2015 at 01:54
Overall, deaths from firearms in France are a lot lower than deaths from firearms in America.
Ever take a class in statistics?
No?
I’m not surprised.
CandideThirtythree November 15th, 2015 at 05:04
As a matter of fact I did and when adjusted for size of population, there are still 20 times more gun deaths in the US.
burqa November 15th, 2015 at 21:17
Aw, man, sorry about that. My comment was directed at the Smithson fellow.
I don’t think more guns is the answer, nor do I think less guns will make much difference here.
Other countries with high percentages of gun ownership like Switzerland have far lower homicide rates from firearms. From this I conclude it is something in society that needs to be changed. In America, we just have a society that is more violent than, say, the Swiss. I don’t know how we can change this but I think our efforts need to be focused on it.
CandideThirtythree November 15th, 2015 at 22:07
I have the perfect example for you, Vermont has almost no gun laws and almost no gun violence either.
They never got around to making any laws because they never had a problem. They only had 2 gun murders in the whole state and only 9 gun deaths altogether in 2012, the last year I could find stats for. The other 7 were accidents or suicides. Lots of states have that many a day!
Think of Vermont, it is liberal hippie central for the whole country. The peace and love and Kumbaya treehuggers that conservatives are always bashing ARE the good people! They don’t need laws because they know how to behave like civilized human beings.
Vermont is the least religious state in America, which also keeps people from murdering people because when you don’t see life as just a dry run for some other life, that makes human life precious. Only New Hampshire had a lower teen pregnancy rate than Vermont, which also had the lowest abortion rate.
The places with the most crime also have the most religion. New Orleans has more churches than doctor’s offices, there are literally one on every corner in lots of places. All that religion does NOT lower crime, it causes it!
If everyone were liberal, then this country would be a wonderful place, it is the conservatives that make so much of it a living hell.
burqa November 15th, 2015 at 22:40
The first part of your post I like a lot, but I don’t see the cause and effect of the second part. After all, how about we blame the subtropical climate, since New Orleans is close to the equator and areas closer to the equator are frequently violent, from Central and South America to Africa and the Middle East to South, and Eastern Asia……..
……………and remember, a significant part of the hippie movement’s ideas came from Christianity, as a significant portion of the hippies were also involved in the Jesus Movement that arose at the same time….I was there, I remember………..
CandideThirtythree November 16th, 2015 at 00:17
I used New Orleans as an example, but all violent places have tons of churches in this country no matter the weather.
I bet you think Woodstock was a religious revival?
You are so full of shit, there was never any religion in any of the hippie enclaves that I ever saw back in the 60s…… It was sex, drugs and rock and roll…. well, folk music too but it was all about free love and drugs and NONE of that was in the bible. If anything it was more pagan than anything…
since you don’t know that, you are lying about being there.
How old are you really?
burqa November 15th, 2015 at 01:50
So you want people to be able to easily obtain automatic weapons and explosives without any restrictions?
How’s that working out for Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria, or Afghanistan?
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 01:21
gun control is RIGHT. and there’s never NOT a good time to talk about it. the repukes said after sandy hook, now is not the time. they said after 9 innocent people in church were murdered, now is not the time. so, when is the time. does the number have to be, oh, i don’t know, 300 at one setting to be the time?
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 01:44
But this situation happened in a place where there was gun control so what is there to say? They didn’t have guns and they still got shot and killed so it’s not really a comparable situation. Gun control obviously didn’t keep the guns out of the hands of bad guys in this case. In fact, the right could easily use this as an example of why gun control is wrong. There are some situations where someone with a gun could have helped and there are situation where they couldn’t . This situation doesn’t exactly fit the gun control narrative for the left. Overall, I support some gun control policies but if you are looking for an incident that fully supports that position, the events tonight are not it. In a situation like the theater shooting though a gun wouldn’t have done much good.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 01:59
“But this situation happened in a place where there was gun control so what is there to say?” and quite frankly, it’s proving to be working otherwise it would have and could have been more of these events prior to today. no one system is perfect, but it’s a hell of a lot better than ours, isn’t it?
“In fact, the right could easily use this as an example of why gun control is wrong.” you’re wrong. gun control would have save the victims of Columbine, the victims of Sandyhook, the victims of the Auror theatre shootings, the 9 victims that were murdered in their church, the 73-year-old Frazier Glenn Miller, Jr., was a Neo-Nazi and former political candidate, murdered 3 people because he believed them to be Jewish. i can go on, but you get the point. at least i hope.
in 2012 France had 140 murders committed by guns, in 2012 the US had over 8,000. now, explain to me why gun control doesn’t work.
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 02:16
The original point of this chain was that Trump was out of line making comments on gun rights this evening and you responded to basically say there is never a time we shouldn’t talk about gun rights. If the person’s stand is that gun rights would save lives, this is one incident where Republicans have a stronger leg to stand on. If we are talking about those other situations where they happened here in America where there is access to weapons it is a much more valid point with more resonance. I actually never said that gun control wouldn’t work. In fact, I even said I support having some gun control policies. I don’t support confiscation though.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 02:44
“…you responded to basically say there is never a time we shouldn’t talk about gun rights.” not true. i said, that’s what republicans say everytime there’s an incident here involving mass murder, or murder period, where some asswipe shouldn’t have ever been capable of owing a weapon. that, (the repukes) just because of this incident, we need to grieve, because now is not the time to discuss gun control. it’s long since been the time to discuss it.
“If the person’s stand is that gun rights would save lives, this is one incident where Republicans have a stronger leg to stand on.” that’s serious monday morning quarter backing. because it could have ended much worse. they (the repukes and gun nuts) also suggested that if others in the theatre (aurora) would have had a gun, the they could have shot back. let that sink in, then please tell me why i don’t think that would have been wise.
“…America where there is access to weapons it is a much more valid point with more resonance.” now again, let that sink in.
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 12:49
First of all, the Aurora Theater Shooting and the concert hall sound like they were very different situations. As someone who has insider knowledge on the circumstances in Aurora three was no way they could have gotten a clear shot in that mess due to the canisters he used which fogged up the whole room. There is really no way the people in the theater could have shot back and so I have no need to let that sink in and can straight up tell you it wouldn’t have been wise.
As of right now, from all the reports we are getting visibility was not an issue so a trained person with a gun might have been able to make a difference.
We actually are more on the same side than not. I’m just saying that out of all the shootings and terrorist acts that have happened every person I’ve talked to who would know and has experience has said chances are good a trained person with a gun would have made a positive difference on the inside.
I’m all for tightening up background checks and better screening to make sure those who shouldn’t have guns, don’t have guns. I’m not for full confiscation though either. People who are sane and well trained should still be able to carry weapons in my opinion. If I were in a situation like last night I would be glad my husband was carrying and people like him. He has years of both military and law enforcement experience. He has the right to have a gun as far as I’m concerned. With the proper controls put in place I would be fine with knowing there are still trained people in the community who have a weapon and know how to use it.
Regarding your last point I have to admit it didn’t make sense. It was late and clearly I was tired. My point was probably that I’d prefer to have a happy medium between here and France. I am all for gun control keeping guns out of the hands of those who are not stable. Then again, I also don’t like the idea that in a completely gun free society the bad guys know it’s literally like shooting fish in a barrel and there is really no risk to them in attacking innocent people. I think with some intelligence and team work we can come up with policies that accomplish both.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 13:09
there are well trained people with a gun who have shot themselves. furthermore, with more than one shooter and people running for cover, the “good” guys with guns, well trained or not could have easily hit those fleeing. and one of my biggest gripes is the type of guns in circulation. no one needs a damn AR or any type of assault riffle. nothing more than a hand gun should surfice.
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 13:15
You only shoot when you know who the target is. So out of all the people who have shot themselves accidentally with a gun you know how many are well trained. What is the criteria for well trained? People well trained in all kinds of things make mistakes. I’ve seen plenty of professional drivers who screw up royally. Again, it’s about finding the middle ground and balance which the far left and the far right are too busy bickering and yapping at each other to actually do. Both sides are why nothing ever gets done or solved. (the extremes of those sides) I’m still amazed at how the extremes of both sides are almost twins of each other.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 14:37
“People well trained in all kinds of things make mistakes.” you’re right, but the last thing anyone needs is someone who, just because they think they are well trained in firearms, hyped up on adrenalin, let alone 5 or more, trying to shoot through moving targets to get at one person who he very well will likely miss, but shoot someone innocent.
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 14:58
That’s why I say PROVE they are well trained, not just say it. Training addresses things like adrenaline and sorting through those types of situations.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 15:10
that’s what military personnel is for, that’s what cops are for, at least supposedly. not your average citizen. there’s no psychological testing to be done to ensure you can handle any given situation. a female cop in her car, with all her training, and supposed capabilities to handle herself under stress, killed an unarmed man walking down the street because she feared for her life. the problem with that is, she was in her vehicle with the windows up. there’s your “well trained” licensed carrier with a badge no less.
AmethystTear November 14th, 2015 at 15:49
Ok, and how many people were killed last night before the military and police could get in? The terrorists were slaughtering them one by one before they threw grenades into the crowd. If you want to wait for the police to get in when you are in that situation that is your right. I would prefer somebody step in if they can. According to your example the cops aren’t fit either. So if cops, military and well trained citizens can’t be trained enough to handle a gun safely are you okay when you are the one sitting somewhere hoping not to be killed. Maybe nobody but the bad guys should have guns. The world is never going to be perfect and no policy is ever going to be perfect. Quite frankly, you are using a very, very small sample of incidents to cling to an agenda that overall I actually agree with.
CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:43
Republicans do not have a leg to stand on…they are 100% wrong and I will tell you why…in America over 33,000 people die from gun violence every year here…almost a half a million Americans have died from domestic gun violence since 9/11.
Yes, losing 3,000+ Americans to terrorism in that same time is horrible but it is an order of magnitude better than the 400,000+ lost to domestic violence.
As a rule of thumb, republicans are never right about anything.
CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:32
They don’t have 365 day a year gun violence like we do here, they lose very few citizens to gun violence each year while we lose 35,000+ every year.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 00:34
this hairball doesn’t know any fk’n different. he’s an ignorant pos. wait for it Suzanne. he’ll say, it was his interns and not tweeted with his permission.
Robert Smithson November 13th, 2015 at 20:47
Now lets hope President Hollande has what it takes to respond to this. His first order of business should be to end all Muslim immigration into France and round up all those Muslim men who are now in Calais and deport them. Secondly, he should mobilize the army and attack and destroy the ISIS forces in Syria. The time for action has arrived and the only question is will the President of France respond with some serious measures?
StoneyCurtisll November 13th, 2015 at 20:56
Derp.
Suzanne McFly November 13th, 2015 at 21:14
I had a long post typed out full of four letter words, I deleted it because there are times I am strong enough not to stoop. I admire you for your strength, you not only used a four letter word but you didn’t stoop.
StoneyCurtisll November 13th, 2015 at 21:25
It just isn’t worth the effort to respond in length to theses fools…
:)
Suzanne McFly November 13th, 2015 at 21:34
I know, but I have an Irish temper and sometimes it takes over by better senses. lol
whatthe46 November 13th, 2015 at 23:46
and mine is sicilian. wow what a mix that would be.
Suzanne McFly November 14th, 2015 at 20:38
I have Italians in my family, we try not to piss one another off but sometimes we just can’t help it lol.
StoneyCurtisll November 14th, 2015 at 18:22
Just like Maureen O’Hara..:)
Suzanne McFly November 14th, 2015 at 20:05
I have had my moments, but I don’t think they were that dramatic but close lol.
StoneyCurtisll November 14th, 2015 at 21:20
it’s all good sister…:)
CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:26
Yep, sometimes brevity is best LOL
StoneyCurtisll November 14th, 2015 at 18:02
Indeed.
burqa November 17th, 2015 at 23:30
I’m glad you didn’t stoop. This shall pass, and you have your ladylike reputation to maintain.
There are fishwife-y sorts around here who use that stevedore talk and you don’t need to be one of them.
Your silence and gaze into the indistinct middle ground says all you need to say….
Robert Smithson November 13th, 2015 at 23:24
And you suggestion for a response to this is what? Do nothing? Bring in more Muslims perhaps? Doing nothing is not an option. France needs to hit back, and hit back hard. Extreme violence is all these terrorists understand. Like it or not the West is at war with these people, so they need to be killed before they kill us.
whatthe46 November 13th, 2015 at 23:57
a fucking war we started. invade, invade, invade. murder, murder, murder.
Robert M. Snyder November 14th, 2015 at 04:20
The factional conflicts in the Middle East began long before the United States was founded. Dictators like Saddam Hussein and Hosni Mubarak managed to keep a lid on the simmering kettle. Bush and Obama both made the same mistake. They helped to removed the lid (Hussein and Mubarak), and now the kettle is boiling over. The US did not create the pressure in that kettle. We simply and naively allowed it to escape. We are learning that there is one thing worse than a dictator, and it is called anarchy.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 05:40
i didn’t need to read your entire post to say, you are so fk’n full of shit. don’t you even dare to bring Obama into this b.s. you keep the blame where it fk’n belongs. bushy/dicky. this shit was going to happen before 01 and they knew it. bushy/dicky start a war and murdered 1000’s of innocent people on their own soil. and murdered 1000’s of our own men, women, sisters, brothers, fathers, mothers, uncles and aunts, and for WHAT? this crap we’re seeing now, this revenge that’s going on now, is because of your favorite dumbass. so how in the flying fk are you comfortable with bringing Obama into this? oh, wait, i forgot, you’re a racist bigot and facts mean nothing to you.
CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:22
Bomb who? It is not a country, it is individuals and the ones who just bombed France were probably French citizens.
Terrorists do not fight in a Hoplite Phalanx, they don’t march in in battalions….they hide like roaches in nooks and crannies, then skitter out at night when no one is looking!
How do you kill roaches? You don’t blow the house up!
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 17:42
he’s too stupid to get that.
StoneyCurtisll November 14th, 2015 at 18:18
Yawn….
Yeah, more violence is always the answer to people with your type of personality disorder..
Your foaming at the mouth ‘kill em all’ mentality is exactly what those psychopath murderers in France believed in..
If you are serious with your pathological “kill em all before they kill us” ideology, strap on some explosives and step up to the plate… (be a Christan martyr)..
Better yet just stay home and shut the F up.
whatthe46 November 13th, 2015 at 23:55
“Roosevelt’s executive order was fueled by anti-Japanese sentiment among farmers who competed against Japanese labor, politicians who sided with anti-Japanese constituencies, and the general public, whose frenzy was heightened by the Japanese attack of Pearl Harbor. More than two-thirds of the Japanese who were interned in the spring of 1942 were citizens of the United States.” you want them to do the same to people who are not a representative of what these bastards did. you disgust me.
Robert Smithson November 14th, 2015 at 07:16
There is a difference. Those Japanese were American citizens and we are under no obligation to allow any Syrian Muslims into the country. Why do you want to take the chance that terrorists will sneak in with them and cause death and mayhem here? Your opinion on this issue disgusts me.
tracey marie November 14th, 2015 at 12:11
like we do in their countries?
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 14:51
we have Muslim Americans that you would love to see placed in interment camps. and all of your opinions disgust me.
bpollen November 14th, 2015 at 22:07
Yeah, the Americas shoulda shut the door when Beringia closed.
Red Mann November 14th, 2015 at 00:03
Hell yeah, let’s go blow some shit up and kill a bunch of them brown skinned people, that’ll fix it. Wait, we already did that, cost us trillions ad kill hundreds of thousands, and just made everything worse and set the stage for ISIS. When are you clowns going to realize that this approach doesn’t work? Your approach is like trying to fight fire with gasoline.
Robert Smithson November 14th, 2015 at 07:13
And your answer is to do what? Negotiate with a group of people who enslave women as sex slaves and kill innocent people in a major European city? Yeah, now that’s a plan. You deal with these vermin like we dealt with the Germans and Japanese in WW2 – kill them.
CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:11
NO, what should have been done from the beginning, pull out and let them kill each other!
tracey marie November 14th, 2015 at 12:10
we enslave women to be used for sex, we attack major cities in the M.E., we are killers as well.
Red Mann November 14th, 2015 at 17:35
Since your sense of history is faulty, ISIS is not a country with defined borders, they are not a uniformed army that make them easy to spot, they don’t employ the same tactics as the Germans and the Japanese. What they do is mingle with the population ensuring that anything but a so-called surgical attack will
kill large numbers of bystanders. ISIS is protean, chop off one head leader, a dozen will take his place. They are driven by a crazed ideology including a fervent belief in the End of Days (that may sound familiar). We tried the full on military attack and it failed miserably. Your simplistic, juvenile approach is a guaranteed way the make everything worse and create tens of thousands more enemies.
bpollen November 14th, 2015 at 22:01
Yeah, that’s why there are no Germans or Japanese anymore.
Listen, SlowBob Squarehead, if you will read a little history, you will notice that we accepted the surrender of both countries. We did NOT kill them if they were willing to surrender. Ergo, your historical analogy ignores facts and history to promote violence.
Pretty obvious YOU never served.
Red Mann November 14th, 2015 at 00:03
Hell yeah, let’s go blow some sh!t up and kill a bunch of them brown skinned people, that’ll fix it. Wait, we already did that, cost us trillions ad kill hundreds of thousands, and just made everything worse and set the stage for ISIS. When are you clowns going to realize that this approach doesn’t work? Your approach is like trying to fight fire with gasoline.
fahvel November 14th, 2015 at 04:21
vous etes une maladie!!!!!
tracey marie November 14th, 2015 at 12:09
Are you and your family safe fahvel?
fahvel November 14th, 2015 at 14:24
oui et merci. We are country bumpkins far from the cities.
encore, merci bien.
tracey marie November 14th, 2015 at 19:50
Thank goodness!
Gina Bousquet November 14th, 2015 at 13:22
Vive la France, Fahvel!
StoneyCurtisll November 14th, 2015 at 21:38
Says the fascist Robert Smithson…
bpollen November 14th, 2015 at 21:56
What, pray tell, do you have to prove your geo-political chops?
What it appears to be is a bigoted shallow-thinking hater talking smack sans fact..
ParisianChic November 14th, 2015 at 00:12
please everyone #prayforparis.
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whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 00:17
we are. and thanks.
maggie November 14th, 2015 at 01:36
our government will do more than pray for you we will help you …;) US citizens condemn this violence…and desire our gov to help yours…
Gina Bousquet November 14th, 2015 at 13:39
You are in the world’s thoughts and prayers.
Tommie November 14th, 2015 at 00:29
This is a damn shame, innocent being killed over nothing, why doesn’t ISIS go up against a real power, man up cowards!
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 01:36
i think they just want bushy/dickie. peace, for 2 pieces of shit.
TKList November 14th, 2015 at 00:59
It seems these Islamic fundamentalists will not stop until all Muslims around the world are looked at with suspicion and contempt.
Radical Muslim delusions with the Quran and jihad are scourges on humanity. Blame clerics, imams and mullahs for spreading militant Islam, blame Iran and Saudi Arabia
maggie November 14th, 2015 at 01:39
well you said the right word…fundie….anyone armed is a fundie….
Red Eye Robot November 14th, 2015 at 02:59
“I don’t think they’re gaining strength,” Obama responded. “What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq, and in Syria they’ll come in, they’ll leave, but you don’t see this systemic march by ISIL across the terrain.”
Barack Obama, Friday morning on GMA
“Contained” that must not mean what I thought it meant.
robert November 14th, 2015 at 06:36
France gave this country the benefit of the doubt ( for humane reasons ) and they stuck it in their face. whatever France does to Syria Im behind them100%
BTW nothing happened in the usa So you could say ” contained ” was the right choice of word(s) even if it didn’t apply to all countries
William November 14th, 2015 at 09:38
I was wondering just who would chime in with a big fat “Thanks Obama”
burqa November 15th, 2015 at 00:39
Yeah, I was wondering who we should hold responsible for this….
Ed VanDyke November 15th, 2015 at 01:32
Or “they”/”them” doesn’t…
maggie November 14th, 2015 at 03:15
the organization or organizations doing this are not coming from a place of strength….they are coming from a place of weakness….they do it because they are weak
fahvel November 14th, 2015 at 04:19
oui, let’s simply change a regime – hmmmm, who said that?
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CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:06
What do they mean by that? Is it because France is taking in Syrian refugees? Or do they think it is just easy to attack France?
Böcker November 14th, 2015 at 09:24
Terriorsts will use any excuse, any excuse to kill.
maggie November 14th, 2015 at 17:51
that’s why they are terrorists…fundie idealogues….
CandideThirtythree November 14th, 2015 at 09:24
Tell him girlfriend! Let him have it with both barrels!
Robert M. Snyder November 14th, 2015 at 11:38
Go ahead and call me a racist bigot. Those words have been so overused that they have lost all meaning. Name calling is a symptom of fear and desperation. You are too weak to face the truth.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 14:47
racist and bigots are the sole cause of hate crimes in this country. you face it you racist bigot.
Suzanne McFly November 14th, 2015 at 19:40
Well he is that, the problem is he collects other wastes who want him as their leader.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 19:46
that sounds interesting.
Suzanne McFly November 14th, 2015 at 20:18
It is for the stories that come out of it, but when you are in the middle of it, it sucks lol.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 20:27
i’ve got this stupid cheezie smile on my face. lol
Suzanne McFly November 14th, 2015 at 20:40
Well that is what I am good for, cheezie smiles lol.
whatthe46 November 14th, 2015 at 19:47
lol
burqa November 17th, 2015 at 01:04
You were just exposed to one segment of the hippies. Read up on the Jesus Movement of the time. A lot of the hippies took Jesus’ message of peace and love to heart.
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Trying to blame all the violence on people of faith is not supported by history, as atheist commies killed more people in under 75 years than in every war added together since the beginning of recorded time. We’re talking 100 million people, and I have it all documented in the book quoted below.
Let’s take a look at what happened when those peaceful atheists from China encountered those violent religious folk in Tibet, where 25% of all male adults are, or were, lamas:
“The worst tragedy in modern Tibet was the internment of hundreds of thousands of people – perhaps as many as one in ten Tibetans – during the 1950s and 1960s. It appears that very few people (perhaps as few as 2 percent) ever returned alive from the 166 known camps, most of which were in Tibet or the neighboring provinces. In 1984 the Dalai Lama’s intelligence service estimated that 173,000 people had died during detention. Entire monastic communities were sent to the coal mines. Detention conditions on the whole appear to have been dreadful, with hunger, cold, or extreme heat the daily lot of the prisoners. There are as many tales of execution of prisoners refusing to renounce Tibetan independence as there are tales of cannibalism in prison during the Great Leap Forward. It was as though the entire population of Tibet (one in four of all adult men in Tibet are lamas) were suspects. Nearly one in six was classified as a right-winger, as opposed to one in twenty in China. In the Tibetan prairie region in Sichuan, where Mao had rested and gathered his strength during the Long March, two-thirds of the population were arrested in the 1950s, and not freed until 1964 or 1977. In 1962 the Panchen Lama, the second-highest dignitary in Tibetan Buddhism, protested to Mao against the famine and repressions that were decimating his countrymen. In retaliation, he was thrown into prison and then placed under house arrest until 1977. The verdict by which he had been sentenced was not annulled until 1988.
If there is no definitive proof that the Chinese planned a physical genocide [546] in Tibet, there is no doubt that they carried out a cultural genocide. Immediately after the Cultural Revolution, only 13 of the 6,259 designated places of Buddhist worship were still open. Most of the others were turned into barracks, storerooms, or detention centers. Some of those that survived have subsequently reopened. But many were emptied totally, and their treasures – manuscripts, frescoes, thanka paintings, statues, and other objects – were destroyed or stolen, particularly if they contained any precious metals. By 1973, one Beijing foundry had melted down 600 tons of Tibetan relics in the Chinese capital, including 13,537 statues and statuettes. The attempt to eradicate Buddhism altogether was accompanied by a drive to give Chinese names to all newborn Tibetan babies. Until 1979 all school classes were taught in Mandarin. Finally, as a last reminder of the anti-Manchu revolution of 1911, the Red Guards cut off the pigtails of Tibetans of both sexes and tried to impose Han-style Chinese dress on the whole nation. ,,,”
– THE BLACK BOOK OF COMMUNISM Crimes, Terror, Repression, Edited by Stéphane Courtois, Nicolas Werth, Jean-Louis Panné, Andrzej Paczkowski, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Margolin, (Harvard University Press, 1999), pages 545-546
https://archive.org/details/TheBlackBookofCommunism10
I have oodles more notes taken from this seminal historical text if you want to continue this line. When I’ve finished with Tibet, we can move on to Cambodia and compare the violence of the atheists and believers
CandideThirtythree November 17th, 2015 at 01:46
There were no atheists killing millions just because they were atheists, that lie has been debunked millions of times. Hitler mentioned god in almost every speech he ever made, his mother was a Catholic tyrant who raised him in abusive, iron-fisted religious dogma. Stalin’s family was the same way, that is why he only allowed his own religion, the Orthodox churches to remain.
As a matter of fact almost all dictators were raised in abusive religious households, you don’t think that had an effect on how they turned out?
And as for Tibet, it had nothing to do with them being Buddhists, they were educated and Mao hated educated people. Sound like anyone else you know?
The monks are now the ones killing people by the way. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/08/us-myanmar-violence-specialreport-idUSBRE9370AP20130408
burqa November 17th, 2015 at 04:00
CandideThirtyThree: “There were no atheists killing millions just because they were atheists, that lie has been debunked millions of times.”
Instead of restating my opinion, how about quoting it and actually responding to my words?
In this case, you’ve debunked nothing. What you have done is find excuses to avoid directly addressing what I’ve posted.
The commies were atheists attempting to change not just the political and economic system, but they wanted to bring about changes in people in order to breed, what they called “The new Soviet man” in the USSR.
Atheism was a central aspect of communism and they saw faith and the church as a major enemy (I’ll be glad to quote Lenin on the subject, if you want). That is why, in country after country, the atheist commies attacked the clergy and the church a principal target.
You simply cannot handle this point.
It appears you labor under the misperception that atheists are somehow immune to extremism. Sorry, but you’re just plain wrong.
People of all races are capable of adopting a murderous ideology of extremism.
People of all nationalities are capable of adopting a murderous ideology of extremism.
Young and old people, males and females are capable of adopting a murderous ideology of extremism.
People of faith, agnostics and atheists are capable of adopting a murderous ideology of extremism.
You can’t handle this point either.
Just because you favor one group does not make it immune to this human characteristic, nor does a group you dislike have a monopoly on it.
My main point is this: The problem is the human tendency or characteristic of extremism. This human characteristic spans nationalities, races and ideologies. Atheists can – and have been murderous extremists just as Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, agnostics have.
It blows your mind that atheists have committed the greatest mass murder in history. It’s not because they are atheists, it is because they are humans who adopted an extremist ideology.
CandideThirtyThree: “And as for Tibet, it had nothing to do with them being Buddhists, they were educated and Mao hated educated people.”
Nope.
You don’t understand the way communism tried to remake people, nor do you understand the reason the church was always a main enemy in country.
Among the 100 million victims of atheist commies were many millions of illiterate or poorly educated people.
The Black Book of Communism documents this. One of the values of the book is it puts it all together so we see the same tremnd taking place in country after country.
In the passage I quoted was this line:
“The attempt to eradicate Buddhism altogether was accompanied by a drive to give Chinese names to all newborn Tibetan babies.”
It was not just educated people who were the target.
Can you support that claim by quoting any highly regarded historical work as I am doing?
A favored weapon of the atheist commies was famine, and the famines they caused wiped out millions of poorly educated people around the globe.