Trump In 1999: Health Care ‘An Entitlement’ From Birth
Donald Trump told Larry King in 1999 that he believed in universal health care, that it is an “entitlement” from birth.
“I said I’m conservative, generally speaking, I’m conservative, and even very conservative,” Trump told King in response to a question about a “patients’ bill of rights.”
“But I’m quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care and other things. I really say: What’s the purpose of a country if you’re not going to have defensive and health care?’
Trump added believed in “universal health care.”
“If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. I mean, it’s no good. So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care,” he said. “I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.”
Asked if he thought it was an entitlement, Trump affirmed he did indeed believe it was one from birth.
“I think it is. It’s an entitlement to this country, and too bad the world can’t be, you know, in this country. But the fact is, it’s an entitlement to this country if we’re going to have a great country.”
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43 responses to Trump In 1999: Health Care ‘An Entitlement’ From Birth
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whatthe46 July 8th, 2015 at 23:51
well a “1/2 brother” did it. so, it doesn’t mean the same now. dumbass!
DogsRgoodpeople July 9th, 2015 at 03:51
I think that sums it up for him and those of his mindset.
Tommie July 9th, 2015 at 00:33
This guy flip flops more than sandals!
TuMadre, Ph.D July 9th, 2015 at 02:16
I believe in universal emergency and preventative care. If you choose to treat your body unhealthily, however, and get something like type 2 diabetes, then that’s on you. You have the freedom to choose, and the freedom to pay for your choices.
F_cons July 9th, 2015 at 07:45
Brilliant, and if you decide to drive a car and are hurt in an accident, that’s on you. If you chose to care for someone who is sick and you get sick, that’s on you. If you delay a vaccine for any reason and get sick, that’s on you. If you get a sexually transmitted disease, that’s on you. What a great, caring person you are. In fact, why not appoint you as emperor of health care, you can decide who lives and dies.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 00:12
Car accident would be covered with emergency care. You are free to choose not to get a vaccine, which is covered by preventative care; but doing so means you are responsible for the disease you might get.
You choose your sexual partners; if you choose poorly, that’s on you. I believe in the freedom to do what you want, so long as you are responsible for your own choices.
Jack E Raynbeau July 9th, 2015 at 09:21
How about skiing injuries?
Mike July 9th, 2015 at 10:00
He doesn’t get it.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 00:11
Skiing injury would be covered under emergency care.
Jack E Raynbeau July 10th, 2015 at 00:21
Why? Skiing is not mandatory, it’s a choice.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 00:22
Indeed. But it would be covered under emergency care. This is why I said in a previous post, “I don’t think a single mistake should give you 30 grand in ER bills.”
Mike July 9th, 2015 at 09:59
People choose to be sick, injured, or contract a disease…???
Go back and rethink that for a minute.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 00:16
Some people choose to partake in behavior that puts them at greater risk of contracting a disease. While I would never take away their freedom to do so, I would say that your choices are your responsibility. That said, I don’t think a single mistake should give you 30 grand in ER bills, which is why I’m for socialized emergency care. That said, the responsible should not have to pay for the actions of the irresponsible.
Mike July 10th, 2015 at 00:47
Some people choose to partake in behavior that puts them at greater risk …
So, like exercise…?????
New study says it’s not healthy…
http://time.com/3692668/when-exercise-does-more-harm-than-good/
My granddad smoked 5 packs of Lucky Strikes a day, half a bottle of whiskey a night, never rode in a car when he could take a horse, and could kick both our butts before breakfast and never break a sweat. He lived to be 94.
Some people are just lucky and some aren’t. There is no rhyme or reason to this world sometimes, no matter how much we want science to tell us different.
Your talking point is glib and straight off a FOX news broadcast…no thanks
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 01:05
No thanks required. Nothing you said changes the way I will vote. Yes, there are weak people (some by choice), there are genuinely unlucky people, and there are stupid people. Every species on the planet has all three. However, you can’t have a strong society when you force society to pander to the weak, the unfortunate, and the dumb. The universe does not reward compassion, only survival and success.
If you wish to give more of yourself to take care of others that is admirable and to be applauded. There is no admiration or honor in forcing others to follow your personal beliefs using the arm of the law to force others into your way of thinking.
Mike July 10th, 2015 at 01:10
Ah yes, the old social Darwinism argument…you never seem to disappoint.
Carry on.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 01:15
My argument was more than that, and you didn’t refute any of it.
But whatever makes you feel as though you won the debate.
Mike July 10th, 2015 at 02:14
We’re not debating, you’re simply regurgitating a 120 year old failed social experiment.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 04:38
What 120 year old failed experiment? Social Darwinism? Guess it was a good thing that I wasn’t asking for that, since I called for universal emergency and preventative health care.
Mike July 10th, 2015 at 15:06
Ah yes, now comes the Classic Fallacy…
If A then B Therefore A = B
No, Euclid would be ashamed of you.
The Nazi’s had universal healthcare.
What you’re saying is akin to claiming you hate Blacks, believe them to be inferior, but support equal rights, therefore you’re not a racist. See how that works…???
Is the PhD short for pinhead…???
Please continue.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 18:01
Firstly, there’s no such thing as “The Classic Fallacy. Based off what you define as “the Classic Fallacy,” what you are accusing me of is called “Affirming the consequent.”
Secondly, if I was guilty of anything, it would be, “Affirming a disjunct,” as I was showing how what I was saying wasn’t social darwinism.
Thirdly, the only reason I had to fall onto such a fallacy is because your entire post seemed to fall on ad hominems, as well as, “Begging the question,” and, “The Moral High Ground fallacy.” You make a lot of vaguely worded statements, and whenever argued, you state that you never explicitly stated anything, and slide into a different vaguely worded statement.
This entire ordeal has been one of the more boring conversations I’ve had. Feel free to prove whatever it is that your alluding to about my posts.
Mike July 10th, 2015 at 18:04
https://www.math.toronto.edu/mathnet/falseProofs/fallacies.html
Boring…Yawn…..ZZZZZZZZ
TuMadre, Ph.D July 11th, 2015 at 01:40
The title of that is “Classic Fallacies ” in relevance to mathematics, in which there are several different fallacies listed. Not that it matters. You haven’t argued anything of substance or worth.
Mike July 11th, 2015 at 09:44
Another fallacy
You now see there is such a thing as Classic Fallacies and you have engaged in a number of them.
Merely because your only exposure to Euclidean logic and it’s terms comes from Googling a wiki page, does not make your statement true. What you’ve now presented us with is a Hobson’s Choice…keep digging.
I will say it again, we are not debating. You are simply try to defend an indefensible position that has been argued for a century, and when implemented, has failed. (and you know this otherwise you would have presented evidence to the contrary)
If I haven’t “…argued anything of substance or worth.” exactly why do you keep responding….??? Another fallacy, which is also a discursive dilemma that is causing cognitive dissonance…
Please continue.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 11th, 2015 at 21:06
I’m not even going to argue fallacies with you anymore, as we are both guilty of using them, and it’s a rather tedious argument, and it’s also rather irrelevant. I’m glad you got back to the meat of the argument.
I want you to explain to me how choice should be an individual freedom, but how responsibility of those choices should be socialized. If someone chooses to go out and be promiscuous, with or without protection, why is it the financial responsibility of someone who didn’t make that choice? If someone goes out and loads up on TV dinners, and other meals loaded to the brim with salt and sugar, why do the long-term financial consequences of those choices fall onto the shoulders of the people who chose to prepare their own meals and eat healthy?
Mike July 11th, 2015 at 22:03
You…”I want you to explain to me…”
I actually don’t want to explain anything to you. It is painfully evident from our past discourse you are incapable of entertaining any opinion that might be contrary to yours.
I don’t believe you have opinions of your own, you merely agree with other people or copy and paste from the web in an attempt to convince me you understand the subject we are discussing. I don’t believe you do.
This is a friends website, he explains my feelings about speaking with you better than I ever could.
http://jaysondbradley.com/2014/10/11/10-christian-examples-logical-fallacies/
Have a nice evening.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 11th, 2015 at 22:15
It’s ok to admit you were wrong, Mike. I told you I was done with fallacies, and I’m not Christian. Got all I needed just from the title of the article.
Suzanne McFly July 11th, 2015 at 21:24
Man, either you are a masochist or you are working for a golden boy scout badge.
Mike July 11th, 2015 at 21:44
It takes a moment to respond to this poster.
It is painfully obvious he has to google everything I post. Euclidean logic is just one of the subjects I teach so I throw stuff out there to keep him busy…he’ll go away in a bit, too embarrassed to post again.
I haven’t heard from him all day and don’t see a single post of his on the board, so it’s working (for now)
Now Isiah Washington, on the other hand , is a special kind of idiot. He posts long 300 word questions I answer with a single sentence. His head is about to explode in a day or two…we’ve got a thread going on right now that might crash the servers.
Suzanne McFly July 11th, 2015 at 21:58
So you just like to poke “slow learners” who try to pretend they are smart, okay that makes sense.
Mike July 11th, 2015 at 22:16
Some people paint…..
Anomaly 100 July 9th, 2015 at 15:14
Death panels, is that you?
F_cons July 9th, 2015 at 17:32
There is no response from this (Tm “True Blood”) republicunt since it wants all for it, f anyone who doesn’t die fast enough to support it. “I has what I need, the rest of your are chattel!”
Oh, if I kept typing, I’d be banned…
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 00:24
There was no response to me because I’m not on my computer 24 hours per day. I sleep, and I have a life.
Also, I am not a Republican.
TuMadre, Ph.D July 10th, 2015 at 00:28
Personal responsibility does not equate into death panels.
Warman1138 July 9th, 2015 at 02:31
A one man ping pong game.
Jus'speakin'th'truth July 9th, 2015 at 10:30
That was in 1999. Things change. Or, as Stephen Colbert once joked about Bush:
“He believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what happened Tuesday.”
Or, should we now review Ms Clinton’s ideology on things in the past, like gay marriage? And you don’t even have to venture to the 20th century to see her flip-flop.
arc99 July 9th, 2015 at 10:49
Convenient and thoroughly lame rationalization.
So tell us precisely what changed in the past 15 years other than Trump’s need to appeal to voters who see universal health care as the end of civilization as we know it?
Beverly July 9th, 2015 at 14:55
@alan< Start working at home with Google! It’s by-far thss best job I’ve had. Last Wednesday I got a brand new BMW since getting a check for $6879 this – 8 weeks past. I began this 8-months ago and immediately was bringing home at least $212 per hour.
I work through this link………
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mcalleyboy July 9th, 2015 at 20:21
Immigrants should not be granted any form of citizenship and the same with their offspring but they should be allowed to work, we can’t take anymore drains on our Social Security or social welfare programs. This needs to be addressed, other nations don’t allow this form of stupidity and so why do we.
Scott Tidwell July 10th, 2015 at 04:41
Too many people that don’t have balls to stand up and do that. There is too many people that sympathize for the wrong people, and we let them control our laws and rules. I am getting sick of it myself. Pretty soon, I won’t be able to use SS anymore because by the time I am of the age, it’ll be all drained.
M.C.A. July 10th, 2015 at 05:01
Amen Scott… I retired from the Military and well, I could lose my entitlements also. I now live in the Philippines and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt not one Philippine citizen gives a rats azz about America, other than how they can use us or how they can better their life by leaving the rat infested country that bore them, they don’t have the balls to fix their ills so they bring their hopes and dreams to America and as an expat we get treaty real shoddy or like a cash cow. I am married, i’m not single I have kids and one grandchild and nobody cares about us, all they want is our money.
I can’t live in the Philippine’s without a pension, you have to prove that you have money or pension, they won’t allow any Westerner to live in their country without money. I also don’t qualify in any way for any social health program, disaster relief (from the US), lost my roof last year and 3 years before that our house was flooded half way, they gave us nothing and yet they said we qualified for help, man it was tough. In-laws got checks and they ate at our house but we received squat. The In-laws and neighbors also stole what was left of our steel roof, ain’t nobody care about Americans in these 3rd world turd infested swamps and yet they come over to America on a tourist or school Visa and never leave, it’s not just Mexico and Latin America.
mcalleyboy July 10th, 2015 at 05:30
You won’t be able to immigrate to another country and avail their social system but we allow this to happen in the US. Working simpleton jobs won’t pay for the health care and social security benefits, especially if the immigrants are elderly, I’ve seen elderly Bosnian refugee’s that will get Social Security or some sort of social welfare and health care, good luck getting that sort of hand out in any country.