New Jersey School Keeps ‘Under God’
When an unidentified New Jersey family sued the Matawan-Aberdeen Regional School District in February 2014, they claimed the the phrase “under God” was discriminatory. The American Humanist Association took the case and told the court that the pledge violated Article 1 of the state’s constitution.
However, when one high school senior caught wind of this, she and her family decided to fight back…
David Niose, an attorney for the American Humanist Association, argued that public schools should not “engage in an exercise that tells students that patriotism is tied to a belief in God,” saying, “Such a daily exercise portrays atheists and humanist children as second-class citizens, and certainly contributes to anti-atheist prejudices.”
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Kick Frenzy February 17th, 2015 at 21:11
The high school girl referred to the “under God” version of the pledge as a “timeless American value”.
I guess to her, 60 years is “timeless”… derp
illinoisboy1977 February 18th, 2015 at 11:21
Well, when you’re that young, 60 years is time, immemorial.
Kick Frenzy February 18th, 2015 at 21:52
lol… true that
Kick Frenzy February 17th, 2015 at 22:11
The high school girl referred to the “under God” version of the pledge as a “timeless American value”.
I guess to her, 60 years is “timeless”… derp
illinoisboy1977 February 18th, 2015 at 12:21
Well, when you’re that young, 60 years is time, immemorial.
Kick Frenzy February 18th, 2015 at 22:52
lol… true that
John Henry February 17th, 2015 at 22:22
I always thought of it as idle worship, because you pledge allegiance to “a flag”. A piece of cloth, with stripes on it, hung on a pole. Its a totem. This violates a fundamental Christian Principle. I have no problem with reciting values of a nation though.
You should not have to force kids to be patriotic by conditioning their mind as a child. They should want to be patriotic of their own free will, because they love their nation. Because their nation has been good to them. Love breeds loyalty.
Mike February 18th, 2015 at 09:51
Idle worship as opposed to idol worship…Was that a pun??? Because it works either way and it’s funny.
Fairypuff Phairypuf February 19th, 2015 at 00:27
The truth isn’t a idol or a butt kissing contest, its simply something you have to deal with honesty.
Fairypuff Phairypuf February 19th, 2015 at 00:34
You soul consists as 1 very resilient atom, yet it has as much capacity as any brain any size.
Mike February 19th, 2015 at 10:50
Get back to me when you can have someone translate that to English.
Fairypuff Phairypuf February 19th, 2015 at 11:02
I guarantee you’ll figure it out.
illinoisboy1977 February 18th, 2015 at 11:19
Actually, it’s not idol worship. Pledging allegience is not pledging worship. It’s simply affirming your loyalty to your country and is perfectly allowable, under the rules laid out in the Bible. Jesus told his deciples to “render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar’s”, which means taxes and duties of citizenship. Plus, you’re not just pledging to the flag, but also “to the Republic, for which it stands”. The flag is the symbol, but the oath is to the nation.
tracey marie February 18th, 2015 at 13:45
since the 50’s to a mythical god
John Henry February 18th, 2015 at 17:17
An Idol is a symbol made of wood, metal, or plastic. A flag is a symbol made of cloth, wood, metal, or plastic. Not much difference there. They both are “Graven images”.
Then you pledge allegiance to the flag first, then to the nation.
According to the Webstor’s dictionary, worship is: “extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem”.
That is the 4th definition, and it exactly fits the pledge. You are affirming your “devotion” or allegiance to the flag (object of esteem)”.
I don’t think the Christian “God” would approve.
John Henry February 17th, 2015 at 23:22
I always thought of it as idle worship, because you pledge allegiance to “a flag”. A piece of cloth, with stripes on it, hung on a pole. Its a totem. This violates a fundamental Christian Principle. I have no problem with reciting values of a nation though.
You should not have to force kids to be patriotic by conditioning their mind as a child. They should want to be patriotic of their own free will, because they love their nation. Because their nation has been good to them. Love breeds loyalty.
Mike February 18th, 2015 at 10:51
Idle worship as opposed to idol worship…Was that a pun??? Because it works either way and it’s funny.
Fairypuff Phairypuf February 19th, 2015 at 01:27
The truth isn’t an idol or a butt kissing contest, its simply something you have to deal with honesty.
Fairypuff Phairypuf February 19th, 2015 at 01:34
You soul consists as 1 very resilient atom, yet it has as much capacity as any brain any size.
Mike February 19th, 2015 at 11:50
Get back to me when you can have someone translate that to English.
Fairypuff Phairypuf February 19th, 2015 at 12:02
After 3 days without a body your mind will start to hallucinate. When you accept the truth that “you” determine to be truth your emptiness will be buffered with anticipation.
Then I’ll get back with you as soon as I’m able.
illinoisboy1977 February 18th, 2015 at 12:19
Actually, it’s not idol worship. Pledging allegience is not pledging worship. It’s simply affirming your loyalty to your country and is perfectly allowable, under the rules laid out in the Bible. Jesus told his deciples to “render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar’s”, which means taxes and duties of citizenship. Plus, you’re not just pledging to the flag, but also “to the Republic, for which it stands”. The flag is the symbol, but the oath is to the nation.
tracey marie February 18th, 2015 at 14:45
since the 50’s to a mythical god
John Henry February 18th, 2015 at 18:17
An Idol is a symbol made of wood, metal, or plastic. A flag is a symbol made of cloth, wood, metal, or plastic. Not much difference there. They both are “Graven images”.
Then you pledge allegiance to the flag first, then to the nation.
According to the Webstor’s dictionary, worship is: “extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem”.
That is the 4th definition, and it exactly fits the pledge. You are affirming your “devotion” or allegiance to the flag (object of esteem)”.
I don’t think the Christian “God” would approve.
illinoisboy1977 February 18th, 2015 at 11:22
The original pledge didn’t include the words. The current one does. I don’t see what the big deal is, either way. More manufactured outrage, on both sides.
illinoisboy1977 February 18th, 2015 at 12:22
The original pledge didn’t include the words. The current one does. I don’t see what the big deal is, either way. More manufactured outrage, on both sides.
mrtwobit February 20th, 2015 at 12:11
I never could figure out why ‘Christians’ in America are trying to turn this worldly government into Jesus’ kingdom on Earth. Jesus stated in no uncertain terms that his Kingdom was no part of this world. Yet here are these modern day crusaders doing exactly what Jesus said not to do, ‘be a part of this world’. Now, when this Kingdom of God does arrive, Jesus will say to these Christians, “Get away from me you workers of lawlessness, I never knew you.”
mrtwobit February 20th, 2015 at 13:11
I never could figure out why ‘Christians’ in America are trying to turn this worldly government into Jesus’ kingdom on Earth. Jesus stated in no uncertain terms that his Kingdom was no part of this world. Yet here are these modern day crusaders doing exactly what Jesus said not to do, ‘be a part of this world’. Now, when this Kingdom of God does arrive, Jesus will say to these Christians, “Get away from me you workers of lawlessness, I never knew you.”
Richie Nearsen February 22nd, 2015 at 09:13
If the U.S. is operating “under god” — ANY “god” — no wonder we’re in such dire trouble worldwide. We’d be better off making Disney our supreme being.
Richie Nearsen February 22nd, 2015 at 10:13
If the U.S. is operating “under god” — ANY “god” — no wonder we’re in such dire trouble worldwide. We’d be better off making Disney our supreme being.