Chris Wallace To Roy Moore: ‘You Already Got Fired Once For Putting Yourself Above The Law’
“I could recuse or dissent as a justice from Delaware did in the Dred Scott case [affirming slavery] in 1857,” the Alabama chief justice insisted. “They ruled black people were property. Should a court today obey such a ruling that is completely contradictory of the Constitution?”
Wallace pointed out that Moore’s directive that probate judges should refuse to issue same-sex
marriage licenses was similar to his refusal to remove the Ten Commandments from a the state Capital building after a federal court ordered him to.“A state ethics panel said that you had to be removed from office because you had put yourself above the law,” Wallace explained. “Are you doing the same thing now, sir?”
Moore, however, said that he was “obeying the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which does not prohibit the acknowledgement of God.”
“When federal courts start changing our Constitution by defining words that are not even there, like marriage, they’re going to do the same thing with family in the future,” Moore argued. “When a word is not in the Constitution, clearly, the powers of the Supreme Court do not allow them to re-define words and seize power. The power is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the states or reserved to the states respectively or to the people.”
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tracey marie February 15th, 2015 at 17:06
any excuse to hate, the theocratic way
tracey marie February 15th, 2015 at 18:06
any excuse to hate, the theocratic way
ExPFCWintergreen February 15th, 2015 at 17:07
The rules are different for the Ayatollah of Y’all-Qaeda
ExPFCWintergreen February 15th, 2015 at 18:07
The rules are different for the Ayatollah of Y’all-Qaeda
raypc800 February 15th, 2015 at 17:13
These man has no business being a judge.
raypc800 February 15th, 2015 at 18:13
These man has no business being a judge.
bluejayray February 15th, 2015 at 17:20
I don’t think that “corporations are people” is in the Constitution, either.
$134608037 February 15th, 2015 at 18:20
I don’t think that “corporations are people” is in the Constitution, either.
NW10 February 15th, 2015 at 17:44
Everytime this Alabama bigot mentions God, I cut him off.
Hirightnow February 15th, 2015 at 18:09
Never made it to the end of a sentence, did you?
rg9rts February 16th, 2015 at 01:28
PIQUE only 7 hours
rg9rts February 16th, 2015 at 01:29
Wait till he finds out god is a she!
(((NW10,PATRIOT! ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ))) February 15th, 2015 at 18:44
Everytime this Alabama bigot mentions God, I cut him off.
Hirightnow February 15th, 2015 at 19:09
Never made it to the end of a sentence, did you?
rg9rts February 16th, 2015 at 02:28
PIQUE only 7 hours
rg9rts February 16th, 2015 at 02:29
Wait till he finds out god is a she!
Obewon February 15th, 2015 at 17:46
Functionally illiterate Roy Moore is so proud of his well proven constitutional illiteracy “obeying the First Amendment of the United States Constitution” is preceded by USA’s Article 6 Federal government “Supremacy clause” proving Roy Moore’s uber ignorance.
Mike February 15th, 2015 at 19:07
Also Art 1 sec 10 (no Bill of Attainder or ex post facto laws) and The Full Faith and Credit Clause. (Art IV sec 1)
Some Constitutional scholar he is when rookies like us can shoot down his arguments in a chat room.
John Tarter February 16th, 2015 at 13:07
Ok, so why does not the state of New Jersey recognize my Florida concealed weapons permit?
Mike February 16th, 2015 at 13:46
Because a permit is different than a license. Permits are subject to renewal and changes (like a hunting permit)
Your driver’s license is good in all 50 states and territory’s
John Tarter February 17th, 2015 at 02:09
Ok, so when I lived in Pennsylvania and had a LTCF (License to Carry a Firearm) that would have been subject to the “Full Faith and Credit” clause? Thanks for clearing that up.
Mike February 17th, 2015 at 10:09
A state doesn’t have the right to issue a gun license regardless of what they call it, it is still considered a permit under federal classification. I’ve already linked you to the SCOTUS ruling covering this which you should have read, but didn’t …try reading it this time.
From DC v Heller
(2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.
Keep in mind these are the words of the most pro gun advocate you have on the Court, (Scalia) and he upheld state analogues and their right not to recognize CCP’s from another state. He furthermore cited Miller, which makes your silly claim to Constitutional Carry just that. If you’re going to fight a case on its’ legal merits I would suggest you learn something about the law, and not from Bagger sites but from a thing called Law Schools.
John Tarter February 17th, 2015 at 10:37
A state doesn’t have a right to issue a gun license? It sure does as part of it’s law making abilities guaranteed under the 10th Amendment. It can require a gun license, a drivers license, a peddlers license – it can legally require any type of licenses they want, or NOT require them as they see fit. That’s federalism – the states RETAIN law making powers for things that ARE NOT part of the enumerated powers given to the Federal government by the assembled states.. Good heavens, where did you go to school? Unbelievable!
And your quote from Heller does not negate that right either. The ruling was against certain localities attempts to DENY firearms rights to citizens IN VIOLATION OF the 2nd Amendment. The court actually UPHELD the right for localities to impose certain restrictions, but not in a manner that effectively bars law abiding people from owning firearms. You ought to quit now before you make a further fool of yourself.
Mike February 17th, 2015 at 10:50
I never said any of those things…I suggest you re-read my post. And then Google the Title Code definitions…
Mike February 17th, 2015 at 10:51
Oh, it doesn’t matter, your CCP is still invalid in NJ and you can’t Constitutionally Carry a weapon in either FL or NJ…so you’re arguing a moot point.
John Tarter February 16th, 2015 at 13:06
So if the Federal government passes a national concealed carry law you will be just fine with that, eh Bucko?
Obewon February 16th, 2015 at 13:35
U.S. Supreme court in 2013 and again in 2015 via 7-2 ruled equal marriage throughout the entire USA mandating Alabama Equal Marriage.by upholding the 10th, 14th amendments and the Article 6 Federal Government “Supremacy Clause.”
John Tarter February 17th, 2015 at 02:11
I see, so you ignored answering my “national concealed carry” law example. Typical.
Obewon February 17th, 2015 at 08:38
Tarter’s never read or comprehended the U.S. Constitution ‘One Supreme Court and any lesser courts congress may establish’ and forgets Conservative majority SCOTUS in 2013 and in 2015 ruled 7-2 equal marriage throughout the USA upholds the 10th, 14th Amendments & Article 6 Federal Govt “Supremacy clause” but hypocritically & unknowingly clings to SCOTUS Heller case mandating D.C. annual gun license fess, gun background checks, gun registration every year.
William February 17th, 2015 at 09:05
You DO understand that the supreme court determines the constitutionality of laws right?
and again there already IS a national carry law.
Obewon February 15th, 2015 at 18:46
Functionally illiterate Roy Moore is so proud of his well proven constitutional illiteracy “obeying the First Amendment of the United States Constitution” is preceded by USA’s Article 6 Federal government “Supremacy clause” proving Roy Moore’s uber ignorance.
Mike February 15th, 2015 at 20:07
Also Art 1 sec 10 (no Bill of Attainder or ex post facto laws) and The Full Faith and Credit Clause. (Art IV sec 1)
Some Constitutional scholar he is when rookies like us can shoot down his arguments in a chat room.
John Tarter February 16th, 2015 at 14:07
Ok, so why does not the state of New Jersey recognize my Florida concealed weapons permit? If the “Full Faith and Credit” clause applies to one issue, shouldn’t it apply to all issues? I will be eagerly awaiting your answer.
Mike February 16th, 2015 at 14:46
Because a permit is different than a license. Permits are subject to renewal and changes (like a hunting permit)
Your driver’s license is good in all 50 states and territory’s
John Tarter February 17th, 2015 at 03:09
Ok, so when I lived in Pennsylvania and had a LTCF (License to Carry a Firearm) that would have been subject to the “Full Faith and Credit” clause? Thanks for clearing that up.
But really, you are mistaken. A drivers license is also subject to renewals and changes, so according to you that should not be respected nationally. Your argument fails terribly.
Mike February 17th, 2015 at 11:09
A state doesn’t have the right to issue a gun license regardless of what they call it, it is still considered a permit under federal classification. I’ve already linked you to the SCOTUS ruling covering this which you should have read, but didn’t …try reading it this time.
From DC v Heller
(2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.
Keep in mind these are the words of the most pro gun advocate you have on the Court, (Scalia) and he upheld state analogues and their right not to recognize CCP’s from another state. He furthermore cited Miller, which makes your silly claim to Constitutional Carry just that. If you’re going to fight a case on its’ legal merits I would suggest you learn something about the law, and not from Bagger sites but from a thing called Law Schools.
John Tarter February 17th, 2015 at 11:37
A state doesn’t have a right to issue a gun license? It sure does as part of it’s law making abilities guaranteed under the 10th Amendment. It can require a gun license, a drivers license, a peddlers license – it can legally require any type of licenses they want, or NOT require them as they see fit. That’s federalism – the states RETAIN law making powers for things that ARE NOT part of the enumerated powers given to the Federal government by the states.And your quote from Heller does not negate that right either.
The Heller ruling was against certain localities attempts to DENY firearms rights to citizens IN VIOLATION OF the 2nd Amendment. The court actually UPHELD the right for localities to impose certain restrictions, but not in a manner that effectively bars law abiding people from owning firearms.
I only brought up the “Full Faith and Credit” concept in relation to the gun issue because I question why it does not cover all similar scenarios. But of course, you only want it applicable to the issue you champion. Equal protection under the law is all I am asking.
Mike February 17th, 2015 at 11:50
I never said any of those things…I suggest you re-read my post. And then Google the Title Code definitions…
Mike February 17th, 2015 at 11:51
Oh, it doesn’t matter, your CCP is still invalid in NJ and you can’t Constitutionally Carry a weapon in either FL or NJ…so you’re arguing a moot point.
John Tarter February 16th, 2015 at 14:06
So tell me, what Federal law authorizes “same sex” marriage? And if the Federal government passes a national concealed carry law you will be just fine with that, eh Bucko?
Obewon February 16th, 2015 at 14:35
U.S. Supreme court in 2013 and again in 2015 via 7-2 ruled equal marriage throughout the entire USA mandating Alabama Equal Marriage by upholding the 10th, 14th amendments and the Article 6 Federal Government “Supremacy clause”. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/supremacy_clause
John Tarter February 17th, 2015 at 03:11
So the Supreme Court is now making laws? I thought that was the legislatures job. Silly me. As for the gun issue, I see, so you ignored answering my “national concealed carry” law example. And there’s that 14th Amendment again. Shouldn’t every citizen be treated equally when it comes to income taxes?
Obewon February 17th, 2015 at 09:38
Tarter’s never read or comprehended the U.S. Constitution ‘One Supreme Court and any lesser courts congress may establish’ and forgets Conservative majority SCOTUS in 2013 and in 2015 ruled 7-2 that equal marriage throughout the USA upholds the 10th, 14th Amendments & Article 6 Federal Govt “Supremacy clause” but hypocritically & unknowingly clings to SCOTUS Heller case mandating D.C. annual gun license fess, gun background checks, gun registration every year.
There aren’t any SCOTUS “well regulated” conceal carry laws nationally because the “One Supreme Court” hears 2% of cases.
William February 17th, 2015 at 10:05
You DO understand that the supreme court determines the constitutionality of laws right?
and again there already IS a national carry law.
KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker February 15th, 2015 at 17:48
When you can’t win your bigoted right wing argument on the republican propaganda TV station posing as a news outlet……. you’ve pretty much lost the debate.
Obewon February 15th, 2015 at 17:50
Chris Wallace To Roy Moore: ‘You Already Got Cornholed Once For Putting Yourself Above The Law’
Chinese Democracy February 15th, 2015 at 20:30
I don’t often see the word cornholed .. I wish I saw it more. It really makes the point lol
allison1050 February 16th, 2015 at 04:25
lol! ;o)
KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker February 15th, 2015 at 18:48
When you can’t win your bigoted right wing argument on the republican propaganda TV station posing as a news outlet……. you’ve pretty much lost the debate.
Obewon February 15th, 2015 at 18:50
Chris Wallace To Roy Moore: ‘You Already Got Cornholed Once For Putting Yourself, Child Molesting and Incest Above The Law’
Chinese Democracy February 15th, 2015 at 21:30
I don’t often see the word cornholed .. I wish I saw it more. It really makes the point lol
allison1050 February 16th, 2015 at 05:25
lol! ;o)
granpa.usthai February 16th, 2015 at 00:36
I don’t think God likes Judge ‘MIXED FIBERS WEARER’ very much.
granpa.usthai February 16th, 2015 at 01:36
I don’t think God likes Judge ‘MIXED FIBERS WEARER’ very much.
rg9rts February 16th, 2015 at 01:26
He’s from Alabama …and they are above the law…
rg9rts February 16th, 2015 at 02:26
He’s from Alabama …and they are above the law…
allison1050 February 16th, 2015 at 04:24
And he’s still an a-hole he didn’t learn a thing after last week’s debate he had with Cuomo on CNN.
allison1050 February 16th, 2015 at 05:24
And he’s still an a-hole he didn’t learn a thing after last week’s debate he had with Cuomo on CNN.