Limbaugh: Media Is ‘Chickafying’ The NFL
Click here for reuse options!Limbaugh even got political about domestic violence and said, “Are these guys who are engaging in domestic violence, which is a War on Women, are they voting Republican or are they voting Democrat? I think the odds are they’re voting Democrat, aren’t they?
Limbaugh complained it’s things like Brown’s commentary why he can’t stand pregame shows anymore. He said, “This is not why most people watch football, is to be preached to by another branch of the media who are trying to move a feminist and politically correct liberal agenda forward.”
He made it clear he thinks wife beating is horrible, but the NFL has now become “the latest extension of the Democrat Party leftist agenda.”
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Roctuna September 12th, 2014 at 17:34
As opposed to fat white assifying it.
Roctuna September 12th, 2014 at 17:34
As opposed to fat white assifying it.
edmeyer_able September 12th, 2014 at 17:37
Just the concussion issue had me re-thinking my football habit, the handling of the Ray Rice case has turned me off completely. No big loss for the NFL or me.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 18:40
How so in regards to the concussion issue?
edmeyer_able September 15th, 2014 at 14:13
Sorry, didn’t see your response sooner, I don’t think the league or the schools are doing enough to protect the players. Not that I’m any kind of expert just going by the anecdotal evidence.
bahlers September 16th, 2014 at 03:07
I agree to a point in regards to the high school and youth organizations, but not the NFL of today, or even 10-15 years ago. Each player in collegiate level football (NCAA) goes through a baseline test of physical and neurological capabilities. Once a concussive injury is suspected, all play for that athlete stops, and a series of evaluations is undertaken, all in reference to the player’s baseline test and others that have been tested and depending on how the athlete is doing, they can begin to start playing again in about a week, if no signs or symptoms are present.
The problem I have with NFL players and collegiate players, is they will intentionally dumb down their baseline test. This way, if they get a concussion they will be able to get back on the field sooner. The NFL or even their NCAA coach had no impact in the decision of the player to intentionally deceive the medical staff so they can get back on the field sooner.
Concussions are a tricky subject. One hit on a player that imparts a force much greater then another can not lead to a concussion, whereas another that is much “softer” if you will does. And no helmet can completely prevent a concussion either. So how much do you reasonably expect from the NFL? i thought that 700 billion was a fair amount, and so did the player’s association. But, some misguided judge rejected the amount and now they are back to square one.
edmeyer_able September 12th, 2014 at 17:37
Just the concussion issue had me re-thinking my football habit, the handling of the Ray Rice case has turned me off completely. No big loss for the NFL or me.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 18:40
How so in regards to the concussion issue?
edmeyer_able September 15th, 2014 at 14:13
Sorry, didn’t see your response sooner, I don’t think the league or the schools are doing enough to protect the players. Not that I’m any kind of expert just going by the anecdotal evidence.
bahlers September 16th, 2014 at 03:07
I agree to a point in regards to the high school and youth organizations, but not the NFL of today, or even 10-15 years ago. Each player in collegiate level football (NCAA) goes through a baseline test of physical and neurological capabilities. Once a concussive injury is suspected, all play for that athlete stops, and a series of evaluations is undertaken, all in reference to the player’s baseline test and others that have been tested and depending on how the athlete is doing, they can begin to start playing again in about a week, if no signs or symptoms are present.
The problem I have with NFL players and collegiate players, is they will intentionally dumb down their baseline test. This way, if they get a concussion they will be able to get back on the field sooner. The NFL or even their NCAA coach had no impact in the decision of the player to intentionally deceive the medical staff so they can get back on the field sooner.
Concussions are a tricky subject. One hit on a player that imparts a force much greater then another can not lead to a concussion, whereas another that is much “softer” if you will does. And no helmet can completely prevent a concussion either. So how much do you reasonably expect from the NFL? i thought that 700 billion was a fair amount, and so did the player’s association. But, some misguided judge rejected the amount and now they are back to square one.
Khary A September 12th, 2014 at 17:48
One of the most troubling things about this whole affair i find, is the backlash against people stating how wrong and prevalent domestic violence is and particularly against women. Yes, there is always the obligatory statement of it’s wrongness but it’s always an afterthought. Just the term “chickafying” shows a myopic view of the world but to make comment that the discussion of,in this case, male aggression toward women isn’t an issue that should be discussed heavily in a male dominated field is distasteful at best. That being said women do not need our ( men’s ) protection they need our understanding that the issue is within us.
The last of the Thousad Sons September 12th, 2014 at 17:48
One of the most troubling things about this whole affair i find, is the backlash against people stating how wrong and prevalent domestic violence is and particularly against women. Yes, there is always the obligatory statement of it’s wrongness but it’s always an afterthought. Just the term “chickafying” shows a myopic view of the world but to make comment that the discussion of,in this case, male aggression toward women isn’t an issue that should be discussed heavily in a male dominated field is distasteful at best. That being said women do not need our ( men’s ) protection they need our understanding that the issue is within us.
R.J. Carter September 12th, 2014 at 17:55
I find it so ironic that the NFL, in its attempt to rid itself of domestic abuse, takes out their frustrations on those who are the victims — like canceling Rhianna’s appearance.
mmaynard119 September 13th, 2014 at 22:02
You have a crush on Rhianna, RJ? You dirty old man……..
R.J. Carter September 12th, 2014 at 17:55
I find it so ironic that the NFL, in its attempt to rid itself of domestic abuse, takes out their frustrations on those who are the victims — like canceling Rhianna’s appearance.
mmaynard119 September 13th, 2014 at 22:02
You have a crush on Rhianna, RJ? You dirty old man……..
JeffreyPtr September 12th, 2014 at 18:12
What difference does it make what Limbaugh says? He preaches to choir, as do most talk shows and web sites that offer political opinions. The real task is to find some real action that works to lessen domestic violence. A lecture to a mass audience isn’t likely to change behaviors. We’re already aware of the problem, what we need now is a solution.
JeffreyPtr September 12th, 2014 at 18:12
What difference does it make what Limbaugh says? He preaches to choir, as do most talk shows and web sites that offer political opinions. The real task is to find some real action that works to lessen domestic violence. A lecture to a mass audience isn’t likely to change behaviors. We’re already aware of the problem, what we need now is a solution.
Larry Schmitt September 12th, 2014 at 18:40
Because real men, the kind that play football (not that sissy soccer the rest of the world plays) keep their women in line by knocking them around when they need it. And real women know that’s good for them.
Larry Schmitt September 12th, 2014 at 18:40
Because real men, the kind that play football (not that sissy soccer the rest of the world plays) keep their women in line by knocking them around when they need it. And real women know that’s good for them.
Kendal Chandler September 12th, 2014 at 18:54
Sure, and Rush Limbaugh is fat-asshole-afying radio.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 18:39
He’s not the only one.
Kendal Chandler September 12th, 2014 at 18:54
Sure, and Rush Limbaugh is fat-asshole-afying radio.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 18:39
He’s not the only one.
bahlers September 12th, 2014 at 19:17
If I’m not mistaken, rice was already penalized for the incident. Also, the NFL changed it’s policy on DV punishments. Once the video surfaced (after rice served the suspension) and the media. Hell Storm hit, he was then indefinitely suspended for something he was never convicted of. Am I the only one that cares or even sees the blatant disregard for Rice’s 5th amendment rights? Or is my understanding of what happened not correct?
Larry Schmitt September 12th, 2014 at 19:31
It’s not a court of law. A private organization can punish an employee without waiting for him to be convicted. His 5th amendment rights have not been violated, they don’t enter into this. So your last sentence is correct.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 02:11
But the 14th Amendment incorporates the 5th Amendment to both criminal and civil cases. Your employer cannot terminate your employment without cause. At the time the incident occurred, the NFL’s policy on domestic violence was a joke, yes, but that was the policy and Rice was punished accordingly. Once the video surfaced everyone wanted Rice to be punished again, even though he had already served out his punishment, and there was no change in his criminal prosecution. If anything, Rice had had all charges dropped and then ended up marrying the same person he hit. So how is his termination just?
Larry Schmitt September 13th, 2014 at 04:55
But most states are employment at will states, which muddies it even further. Makes it much easier for an employer to terminate someone.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 13:45
Thats the curve ball isn’t it? With the right attorney, a case could be made, but who knows how a court would make sense of the multitude of labor laws.
bahlers September 16th, 2014 at 03:24
But doesn’t make the termination legal though. All it takes is the right attorney to throw a monkey wrench in everything.
mmaynard119 September 13th, 2014 at 22:01
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes, in at will states, the employer can fire you without cause.
All of the NFL contracts have the equivalence of a “moral turpitude” clause, as do the other professional sports.
bahlers September 16th, 2014 at 03:15
In what area do I not have an idea? You do know the aspects of the 14th amendment, right? And, yes, an employer in any state can terminate your employment, with or without cause, but it doesn’t make it legal.
And your reference to the moral turpitude clause does not even apply in the case of Rice. He admitted that he was in the wrong, cooperated fully with LEO, went through a program of some sort, and all charges were dropped before he was ever suspended. Also, he served his two game suspension, which was the NFL’s policy on domestic violence arrests. Once the video was released (which we all knew what was on the tape) every left wing media source, among others, started raising hell across the internet, radio, and TV, calling for the removal of Goodell, and indefinite ban on Rice from playing football. How is any of this even remotely justifiable? Now, this same outrage towards the NFL’s policy on domestic violence resulted in much more strict policies towards DV, and rightfully so. But to demand the removal of Goodell and the ban on Rice over an incident that never resulted in anything other than an arrest is delusional at best.
bahlers September 17th, 2014 at 12:18
In case you only get your news from Alan, the NFLPA has filed an appeal of Rice’s suspension. And the reason why? His 5th and 14th amendment rights were violated. So who is the one that is confused on the subject?
Carla Akins September 12th, 2014 at 19:31
Yes, no, kinda. He was charged with a crime by the prosecutor way back when it happened. He went into a diversion program and so far has not violated the terms of the program. The release of the video does not effect his actual legal situation.
The issue is with his employer – a 2 game suspension for domestic violence was always a joke. The NFL’s punishment for testing positive for weed is a 4 game suspension. Rice can complain, he has a union to rep him if he doesn’t agree with the NFL’s current ruling. There is no double-jeopardy when it comes to his job.
That said, he’d be crazy to do so – he’s replaced Michael Vick as the most vilified man in football. He needs to step out of the spotlight for awhile.
Goodell, needs to be fired. Absolutely no way he was not aware of the full video when he made his 2 game ruling, he is a lying unethical, overpaid, domestic violence enabler.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 02:24
If my memory is correct, his fiancee at the time ended up marrying him and has dropped all charges. So now there are no longer any pending charges against Rice criminally. This video does not change anything criminally, as we all “knew” that he had hit her in the elevator, the video just cemented our suspicions. I think everyone agrees that the NFL’s policy on domestic violence was a joke at the time of the incident, but that was their policy and he had already been punished accordingly, the video doesn’t change anything in that regard, its old evidence.
How does Goodell enable domestic violence? Is he supposed to disregard his company’s own policy towards a player’s conduct? (which is what he has done by the way) It’s not the NFL’s job to stop domestic violence, that is what law enforcement is for. If anything, Rice may be in mental state that is more likely to result in another domestic violence situation. And on that note, we have no idea what led to the spit, slap, spit, slap, hit, hit, knock out.
Carla Akins September 13th, 2014 at 07:17
Goodell is the commissioner, he makes the rules and has repeatedly assisted in the systematic cover-up and white-washing of players involved in domestic violence. Even after announcing the change; the SF 49er’s nor the league took steps to sideline Ray McDonald. It is tacit approval of this pervasive problem.
It may not be the NFL’s job to end domestic violence – but it’s certainly their job to do so within their own ranks. Domestic violence accounts for 48 percent of arrests for violent crimes among NFL players, compared to an estimated 21 percent nationally. Professional sports hold much weight and influence in shaping social norms in this country – right or wrong and they need to hold their players responsible.
Most importantly, your note that we don’t know what happened prior to the beginning of the video screams victim blaming. Please tell me what she could have done that justifies the behavior we see from him in the video.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 14:04
In my opinion, the 49ers are handling the situation perfectly, wait until all of the facts come out and letting all criminal proceedings. McDonald has yet to even be charged with a crime, and you and others want him off the field? How is that even remotely justified? If he his charged and arrested, now the NFL and the 49ers have a right to suspend his play.
Do you have a link to support your statistics? I would like to read it.
Did I ever say that she deserved or even had the hit coming? I am simply stating that there more than likely was a verbal fight before they appear on camera. No one deserves to get spit on or punched, but spitting back at Rice and hitting back certainly did not help ease the tensions between the two.
Carla Akins September 13th, 2014 at 15:26
The stats were gathered here:
https://www.icpsr.umich.edu/rpxlogin
This article sums it up though: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-rate-of-domestic-violence-arrests-among-nfl-players/
Previously you inferred she was culpable and now you outright said it – “spitting back at Rice and hitting back certainly did not help ease the tensions between the two.”
She’s at fault because she didn’t try and ease the tension? She wasn’t able to placate her abuser?
It’s called an equal and appropriate response, it’s a social skill that young children learn.
You can’t say “she’s a victim” but….but what? The moment you do – it moves the responsibility from the abuser to the victim.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 18:39
Again, I’m not saying she is at fault. Rice is the only one to blame for spitting on and punching his soon to be wife. But from his perspective, her actions only escalated the situation. The first encounter that you see on the tape is domestic violence. If it were me, I would not have been on the elevator with Rice after he just hit me and spit in my face. Time to remove myself from the situation. Once they were both on the elevator, (maybe heading back to their room?) there is nothing that she could have done to prevent the attack, his anger was too hot at that point. And she is clearing the victim in this case, and likely the subject of many more beatings then what we saw on the video.
Carla Akins September 13th, 2014 at 20:37
She doesn’t remove herself because she’s in a relationship with an abuser. It’s just not as simple as walking away. His perspective is that he’s entitled to hit her for whatever slight, real or imagined. She has already made public statements trying to accept responsibility for HIS actions which is textbook battered wife syndrome. I hope her public humiliation over the event, at least provides her with an opportunity to get the help she needs. If she doesn’t her daughter has better than even odds to end up in her own abusive relationship.
bahlers September 16th, 2014 at 03:22
I realize that, domestic violence is a major issue that both men and women need to come to terms with. It is never right to hit someone you are in a relationship with, but it does happen on both sides and often times it is a result of an argument that got out of hand. In those instances, it would have been a lot better for both people involved for someone to walk out, but this is a lot easier said then done. If Rice has habitually hit his now wife over the course of their relationship, she will eventually have to realize that the only way she can protect herself is to walk away and never come back.
bahlers September 12th, 2014 at 19:17
If I’m not mistaken, rice was already penalized for the incident. Also, the NFL changed it’s policy on DV punishments. Once the video surfaced (after rice served the suspension) and the media. Hell Storm hit, he was then indefinitely suspended for something he was never convicted of. Am I the only one that cares or even sees the blatant disregard for Rice’s 5th amendment rights? Or is my understanding of what happened not correct?
Larry Schmitt September 12th, 2014 at 19:31
It’s not a court of law. A private organization can punish an employee without waiting for him to be convicted. His 5th amendment rights have not been violated, they don’t enter into this. So your last sentence is correct.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 02:11
But the 14th Amendment incorporates the 5th Amendment to both criminal and civil cases. Your employer cannot terminate your employment without cause. At the time the incident occurred, the NFL’s policy on domestic violence was a joke, yes, but that was the policy and Rice was punished accordingly. Once the video surfaced everyone wanted Rice to be punished again, even though he had already served out his punishment, and there was no change in his criminal prosecution. If anything, Rice had had all charges dropped and then ended up marrying the same person he hit. So how is his termination just?
Larry Schmitt September 13th, 2014 at 04:55
But most states are employment at will states, which muddies it even further. Makes it much easier for an employer to terminate someone.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 13:45
Thats the curve ball isn’t it? With the right attorney, a case could be made, but who knows how a court would make sense of the multitude of labor laws.
bahlers September 16th, 2014 at 03:24
But doesn’t make the termination legal though. All it takes is the right attorney to throw a monkey wrench in everything.
mmaynard119 September 13th, 2014 at 22:01
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes, in at will states, the employer can fire you without cause.
All of the NFL contracts have the equivalence of a “moral turpitude” clause, as do the other professional sports.
bahlers September 16th, 2014 at 03:15
In what area do I not have an idea? You do know the aspects of the 14th amendment, right? And, yes, an employer in any state can terminate your employment, with or without cause, but it doesn’t make it legal.
And your reference to the moral turpitude clause does not even apply in the case of Rice. He admitted that he was in the wrong, cooperated fully with LEO, went through a program of some sort, and all charges were dropped before he was ever suspended. Also, he served his two game suspension, which was the NFL’s policy on domestic violence arrests. Once the video was released (which we all knew what was on the tape) every left wing media source, among others, started raising hell across the internet, radio, and TV, calling for the removal of Goodell, and indefinite ban on Rice from playing football. How is any of this even remotely justifiable? Now, this same outrage towards the NFL’s policy on domestic violence resulted in much more strict policies towards DV, and rightfully so. But to demand the removal of Goodell and the ban on Rice over an incident that never resulted in anything other than an arrest is delusional at best.
bahlers September 17th, 2014 at 12:18
In case you only get your news from Alan, the NFLPA has filed an appeal of Rice’s suspension. And the reason why? His 5th and 14th amendment rights were violated. So who is the one that is confused on the subject?
Carla Akins September 12th, 2014 at 19:31
Yes, no, kinda. He was charged with a crime by the prosecutor way back when it happened. He went into a diversion program and so far has not violated the terms of the program. The release of the video does not effect his actual legal situation.
The issue is with his employer – a 2 game suspension for domestic violence was always a joke. The NFL’s punishment for testing positive for weed is a 4 game suspension. Rice can complain, he has a union to rep him if he doesn’t agree with the NFL’s current ruling. There is no double-jeopardy when it comes to his job.
That said, he’d be crazy to do so – he’s replaced Michael Vick as the most vilified man in football. He needs to step out of the spotlight for awhile.
Goodell, needs to be fired. Absolutely no way he was not aware of the full video when he made his 2 game ruling, he is a lying unethical, overpaid, domestic violence enabler.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 02:24
If my memory is correct, his fiancee at the time ended up marrying him and has dropped all charges. So now there are no longer any pending charges against Rice criminally. This video does not change anything criminally, as we all “knew” that he had hit her in the elevator, the video just cemented our suspicions. I think everyone agrees that the NFL’s policy on domestic violence was a joke at the time of the incident, but that was their policy and he had already been punished accordingly, the video doesn’t change anything in that regard, its old evidence.
How does Goodell enable domestic violence? Is he supposed to disregard his company’s own policy towards a player’s conduct? (which is what he has done by the way) It’s not the NFL’s job to stop domestic violence, that is what law enforcement is for. If anything, Rice may be in mental state that is more likely to result in another domestic violence situation. And on that note, we have no idea what led to the spit, slap, spit, slap, hit, hit, knock out.
Carla Akins September 13th, 2014 at 07:17
Goodell is the commissioner, he makes the rules and has repeatedly assisted in the systematic cover-up and white-washing of players involved in domestic violence. Even after announcing the change; the SF 49er’s nor the league took steps to sideline Ray McDonald. It is tacit approval of this pervasive problem.
It may not be the NFL’s job to end domestic violence – but it’s certainly their job to do so within their own ranks. Domestic violence accounts for 48 percent of arrests for violent crimes among NFL players, compared to an estimated 21 percent nationally. Professional sports hold much weight and influence in shaping social norms in this country – right or wrong and they need to hold their players responsible.
Most importantly, your note that we don’t know what happened prior to the beginning of the video screams victim blaming. Please tell me what she could have done that justifies the behavior we see from him in the video.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 14:04
In my opinion, the 49ers are handling the situation perfectly, wait until all of the facts come out and letting all criminal proceedings. McDonald has yet to even be charged with a crime, and you and others want him off the field? How is that even remotely justified? If he his charged and arrested, now the NFL and the 49ers have a right to suspend his play.
Do you have a link to support your statistics? I would like to read it.
Did I ever say that she deserved or even had the hit coming? I am simply stating that there more than likely was a verbal fight before they appear on camera. No one deserves to get spit on or punched, but spitting back at Rice and hitting back certainly did not help ease the tensions between the two.
Carla Akins September 13th, 2014 at 15:26
The stats were gathered here:
https://www.icpsr.umich.edu/rpxlogin
This article sums it up though: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-rate-of-domestic-violence-arrests-among-nfl-players/
Previously you inferred she was culpable and now you outright said it – “spitting back at Rice and hitting back certainly did not help ease the tensions between the two.”
She’s at fault because she didn’t try and ease the tension? She wasn’t able to placate her abuser?
It’s called an equal and appropriate response, it’s a social skill that young children learn.
You can’t say “she’s a victim” but….but what? The moment you do – it moves the responsibility from the abuser to the victim.
bahlers September 13th, 2014 at 18:39
Again, I’m not saying she is at fault. Rice is the only one to blame for spitting on and punching his soon to be wife. But from his perspective, her actions only escalated the situation. The first encounter that you see on the tape is domestic violence. If it were me, I would not have been on the elevator with Rice after he just hit me and spit in my face. Time to remove myself from the situation. Once they were both on the elevator, (maybe heading back to their room?) there is nothing that she could have done to prevent the attack, his anger was too hot at that point. And she is clearing the victim in this case, and likely the subject of many more beatings then what we saw on the video.
Carla Akins September 13th, 2014 at 20:37
She doesn’t remove herself because she’s in a relationship with an abuser. It’s just not as simple as walking away. His perspective is that he’s entitled to hit her for whatever slight, real or imagined. She has already made public statements trying to accept responsibility for HIS actions which is textbook battered wife syndrome. I hope her public humiliation over the event, at least provides her with an opportunity to get the help she needs. If she doesn’t her daughter has better than even odds to end up in her own abusive relationship.
bahlers September 16th, 2014 at 03:22
I realize that, domestic violence is a major issue that both men and women need to come to terms with. It is never right to hit someone you are in a relationship with, but it does happen on both sides and often times it is a result of an argument that got out of hand. In those instances, it would have been a lot better for both people involved for someone to walk out, but this is a lot easier said then done. If Rice has habitually hit his now wife over the course of their relationship, she will eventually have to realize that the only way she can protect herself is to walk away and never come back.
Chinese Democracy September 12th, 2014 at 19:36
Is he still on the air?
Obewon September 12th, 2014 at 22:20
Rusty the misogynist racist low watt transmitters garner a mere 1/2 of 1% to 3% of radio listeners in his remaining markets. And he’s still belly flop sinking in most of those markets.
Chinese Democracy September 12th, 2014 at 19:36
Is he still on the air?
Obewon September 12th, 2014 at 22:20
Rusty the misogynist racist low watt transmitters garner a mere 1/2 of 1% to 3% of radio listeners in his remaining markets. And he’s still belly flop sinking in most of those markets.
FreedPeopleDescendant September 12th, 2014 at 20:10
Anybody ever hear of Limbaugh having a “thing” for males? Seems odd that he’s always attacking women as being some sort of threat to manhood.
FreedPeopleDescendant September 12th, 2014 at 20:10
Anybody ever hear of Limbaugh having a “thing” for males? Seems odd that he’s always attacking women as being some sort of threat to manhood.