Alabama Republican: Ten Commandments ‘Has Nothing To Do With Religion’
In an attempt to erect a courthouse monument featuring the Ten Commandments, Jackson County Commissioner Tim Guffney wants us to believe that the Ten Commandments has nothing to do with religion.
Click here for reuse options!“What I’m trying to do is erect a monument of historical documents,” Guffey said Thursday in an interview with AL.com. “It’s the Constitution, the Ten Commandments and the Declaration of Independence. I feel like that’s what this country was founded on. These documents helped America become the greatest country in history…
“The Ten Commandments is a historical document (in this context) and it has nothing to do with religion. It shows that these founders had great beliefs in God and the Ten Commandments and His Word and it helped them get to the point where they were. Their feeling was God helped them build the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. If you read all of the writings of John Adams, Patrick Henry, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, they speak about how that was their foundation that helped them interpret and write a great Constitution.”
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Tommy6860 August 17th, 2014 at 19:23
He’s conflating his beliefs and historical context, or thinks people are simply that daft. The Magna Carta had more impact on how the Constitution was framed than anything from religious values. I bet this guy would redact the Establishment Clause, if he knew what it was.
Anomaly 100 August 17th, 2014 at 19:42
He’s so full of crap he needs a toilet flush on his jaw.
Tommy6860 August 17th, 2014 at 19:46
Haha, I’ll have to remember that one. Keep in mind, there’s the crap coming our of his ears as well. You know what they say about “S**t for brains” :P
Anomaly 100 August 17th, 2014 at 19:52
BOOM!
MiAtheistGal August 18th, 2014 at 07:05
We see over and over again, public officials trying To equate religious documents as ‘historical’ documents so they can be insinuated into the government. Sadly, with our present Supreme Court, they stand a decent chance of being allowed to stomp on non-Christians’ beliefs.
Tommy6860 August 17th, 2014 at 19:23
He’s conflating his beliefs and historical context, or thinks people are simply that daft. The Magna Carta had more impact on how the Constitution was framed than anything from religious values. I bet this guy would redact the Establishment Clause, if he knew what it was.
Anomaly 100 August 17th, 2014 at 19:42
He’s so full of crap he needs a toilet flush on his jaw.
Tommy6860 August 17th, 2014 at 19:46
Haha, I’ll have to remember that one. Keep in mind, there’s the crap coming our of his ears as well. You know what they say about “S**t for brains” :P
Anomaly 100 August 17th, 2014 at 19:52
BOOM!
MiAtheistGal August 18th, 2014 at 07:05
We see over and over again, public officials trying To equate religious documents as ‘historical’ documents so they can be insinuated into the government. Sadly, with our present Supreme Court, they stand a decent chance of being allowed to stomp on non-Christians’ beliefs.
Larry Schmitt August 17th, 2014 at 19:44
Here’s Carlin’s take on the ten commandments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5rLWJntz-o
KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker August 17th, 2014 at 20:25
Thanks.
I, like many miss Carlin’s wit and insight.
Larry Schmitt August 17th, 2014 at 19:44
Here’s Carlin’s take on the ten commandments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5rLWJntz-o
KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker August 17th, 2014 at 20:25
Thanks.
I, like many miss Carlin’s wit and insight.
Carla Akins August 17th, 2014 at 19:52
And I feel Lenny Kravitz is my soulmate. It clearly shows this in the night sky when the stars align – this factual data proves it. Now somebody bring him to me.
uzza August 17th, 2014 at 20:56
Well, *I* feel this country was founded on Constitution of the Iroquois Nation, and we should incorporate more of their rules. Lke this one:
“In case a part or all the Lords pursue a course not
vouched for by the people and heed not the third warning of their women relatives, then the matter shall be taken to the General Council of the women of the Five Nations. If the Lords notified and warned three times fail to heed, then the case falls into the hands of the men of the Five Nations.”
Carla Akins August 17th, 2014 at 21:01
That’s something I could get behind.
Carla Akins August 17th, 2014 at 19:52
And I feel Lenny Kravitz is my soulmate. It clearly shows this in the night sky when the stars align – this factual data proves it. Now somebody bring him to me.
uzza August 17th, 2014 at 20:56
Well, *I* feel this country was founded on Constitution of the Iroquois Nation, and we should incorporate more of their rules. Lke this one:
“In case a part or all the Lords pursue a course not
vouched for by the people and heed not the third warning of their women relatives, then the matter shall be taken to the General Council of the women of the Five Nations. If the Lords notified and warned three times fail to heed, then the case falls into the hands of the men of the Five Nations.”
Carla Akins August 17th, 2014 at 21:01
That’s something I could get behind.
burqa August 17th, 2014 at 20:11
Hey Tim Guffney – – – READ THE BILL!
Obewon August 17th, 2014 at 20:37
Right off the bat Guffney bears false witness against thy neighbor!
jasperjava August 17th, 2014 at 20:46
He should also read the Ten Commandments. The first couple of items certainly seems like it has to do with religion…
burqa August 17th, 2014 at 20:11
Hey Tim Guffney – – – READ THE BILL!
Obewon August 17th, 2014 at 20:37
Right off the bat Guffney bears false witness against thy neighbor!
jasperjava August 17th, 2014 at 20:46
He should also read the Ten Commandments. The first few items certainly seems like it has to do with religion…
Obewon August 17th, 2014 at 20:24
We know exactly who wrote and signed the DOI as well as ratifying the Constitution preventing Alabama Judge Roy Moore’s similar display. Was there a half-off sale on Moore’s fiction depicted that was booted from Government?
Obewon August 17th, 2014 at 20:24
We know exactly who wrote and signed the DOI as well as ratifying the Constitution preventing Alabama Judge Roy Moore’s similar display. Was there a half-off sale on Moore’s fiction depicted in his storage shed, that was booted from Government?
Kick Frenzy August 17th, 2014 at 20:36
Um, Mr. Guffney?
Just to let you know, there’s a big difference between “Creator” and “God”.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you don’t belong in a government position.
(Granted, from what I’ve just read, you already don’t belong there.)
Kick Frenzy August 17th, 2014 at 20:36
Um, Mr. Guffney?
Just to let you know, there’s a big difference between “Creator” and “God”.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you don’t belong in a government position.
(Granted, from what I’ve just read, you already don’t belong there.)
whatthe46 August 18th, 2014 at 01:45
sweet JESUS and to think this idiot procreated!!!
whatthe46 August 18th, 2014 at 01:45
sweet JESUS and to think this idiot procreated!!!
Elliot J. Stamler August 18th, 2014 at 02:21
If you read the SC decision on the Texas state capitol ten commandments monument case you will know that Mr. Guffney’s argument may well prevail and found to be unviolative of the constitution. I am not saying he WILL prevail; I am saying that his argument has precedential authority and can’t be dismissed as some of these ignorant, extreme or atheist commentators herein are doing in their usual knee-jerk fashion. Once again it shows me why I am a centrist and moderate rather than a declared liberal.
Obewon August 18th, 2014 at 06:22
A key requirement is the verifiable location, date, and author of any “historical documents.” Who, when, and where can you prove the ten commandments were written? I’ve traveled to several locations presumed to be Mount Sinai. We don’t even know the confirmed location of the Mt. Sinai mentioned in any of the 2,500 biblical editions contradicting each other. Mount Sinai – The Location Controversy: Egypt? Saudi Arabia? Or from a burnt bush near you? http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/mount-sinai.htm
Dwendt44 August 18th, 2014 at 12:45
Again, you are assuming that the fable is true. There’s no evidence of any mass migration across the desert, much less a mass murder (read the story) and/or that people could survive that long eating fungus (a popular ‘explanation of how they did survive). The genocide that happened when arriving in Palestine likely did really happen.
Padma Gyaltsen August 19th, 2014 at 14:53
The Bible is a work of fiction comprised of myths, legends and outright lies. Events that are described in the Bible never really happened.
Elliot J. Stamler August 18th, 2014 at 02:21
If you read the SC decision on the Texas state capitol ten commandments monument case you will know that Mr. Guffney’s argument may well prevail and found to be unviolative of the constitution. I am not saying he WILL prevail; I am saying that his argument has precedential authority and can’t be dismissed as some of these ignorant, extreme or atheist commentators herein are doing in their usual knee-jerk fashion. Once again it shows me why I am a centrist and moderate rather than a declared liberal.
Obewon August 18th, 2014 at 06:22
A key requirement of any “historical document” is the verifiable original document or earliest known writing via mesopotamian cuneiform tablet, location, date, and author. Who, when, and where can Texas or Alabama prove the ten commandments were written? I’ve traveled to several locations presumed to be Mount Sinai. We don’t even know the confirmed location of the Mt. Sinai mentioned in any of the 2,500 biblical editions, contradicting each other. Mount Sinai – The Location Controversy: Egypt? Saudi Arabia? Or nearby some burnt bushes many tourist economies dreamed up? http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/mount-sinai.htm
Dwendt44 August 18th, 2014 at 12:45
Again, you are assuming that the fable is true. There’s no evidence of any mass migration across the desert, much less a mass murder (read the story) and/or that people could survive that long eating fungus (a popular ‘explanation of how they did survive). The genocide that happened when arriving in Palestine likely did really happen.
Michael Hill August 19th, 2014 at 14:53
The Bible is a work of fiction comprised of myths, legends and outright lies. Events that are described in the Bible never really happened.
Dwendt44 August 18th, 2014 at 12:40
Of the three versions of the “Ten Commandments” in the bible, the first one, supposedly the one noted here, was destroyed by Moses. The one HE chiseled into stone tablets was much different than this one. The third is different still. Of course, it’s all largely a fable anyway.
Dwendt44 August 18th, 2014 at 12:40
Of the three versions of the “Ten Commandments” in the bible, the first one, supposedly the one noted here, was destroyed by Moses. The one HE chiseled into stone tablets was much different than this one. The third is different still. Of course, it’s all largely a fable anyway.