Netanyahu: Prepare For Longer, Bloodier Conflict
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says don’t expect the battle with Gaza to end anytime soon.
Rebuffing appeals from President Obama, the United Nations and others for an immediate cease-fire, Netanyahu said in a televised address, “we will not finish the mission, we will not finish the operation without neutralizing the tunnels, which have the sole purpose of destroying our citizens, killing our children.” He was referring to Hamas’s tunnel networks, through which its fighters have sought to infiltrate Israel.
Israel’s antagonist, the Islamist militant organization Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, also continued deadly mortar and rocket fire, triggering air raid sirens across Israel.
The disproportionate casualties and this kind of rhetoric is why it’s likely a new generation of killers is being created by the ongoing hostilities.
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uzza July 28th, 2014 at 22:13
For about a year, following the SS complete destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto so barely a stone was left standing, Jewish fighters were still sneaking up out of the tunnels and killing the occasional Nazi. Expect a replay.
Why don’t we just sell them some Zyklon B so they can get it over with?
greenfloyd July 29th, 2014 at 07:50
Instead of Zyklon B how about we (America) keep pushing for a ceasefire and offer to evacuate non-combatants?
uzza July 28th, 2014 at 22:13
For about a year, following the SS complete destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto so barely a stone was left standing, Jewish fighters were still sneaking up out of the tunnels and killing the occasional Nazi. Expect a replay.
Why don’t we just sell them some Zyklon B so they can get it over with?
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 29th, 2014 at 07:50
Instead of Zyklon B how about we (America) keep pushing for a ceasefire and offer to evacuate non-combatants?
Kevin July 28th, 2014 at 22:36
In his response to conflicts around the globe President Obama is being roundly criticized for being timid and feckless in his reply, the are many rationale reason why the approach to the many conflicts is thus, nobody in America wants to see it young men a women dying in another ME quagmire. But with the Palestinian/Israeli conflict the US has an opportunity to really effect an solution but refuses to pull the levers.
While the Administration imposes sanction after sanction on countries upon whom they have absolutely no effect, it refuses to sanction either Israel, who receive masses of US economic and military aid, or the Palestinians. In the interest of humanity and a peace in the land of Palestine a homeland for two peoples, sanctions will achieve far more than peace talks and bluster, they will stop the dying.
Hirightnow July 29th, 2014 at 08:43
Those sanctions would have to make it through Congress…and that aint a’gonna happen.
Republicans love them some end-times, and we can’t ensure Jebus returns without giving billions to “God’s chosen people”…
Carla Akins July 29th, 2014 at 08:46
Truth.
Kevin July 28th, 2014 at 22:36
In his response to conflicts around the globe President Obama is being roundly criticized for being timid and feckless in his reply, there are many rational reasons why the approach to the many conflicts is thus, nobody in America wants to see its young men and women dying in another ME quagmire. But with the Palestinian/Israeli conflict the US has an opportunity to really effect a solution but refuses to pull the levers.
While the Administration imposes sanction after sanction on countries upon whom they have absolutely no effect, it refuses to sanction either Israel, who receive masses of US economic and military aid, or the Palestinians. In the interest of humanity and a peace in the land of Palestine a homeland for two peoples, sanctions will achieve far more than peace talks and bluster, they will stop the dying.
Hirightnow July 29th, 2014 at 08:43
Those sanctions would have to make it through Congress…and that aint a’gonna happen.
Republicans love them some end-times, and we can’t ensure Jebus returns without giving billions to “God’s chosen people”…
Carla Akins July 29th, 2014 at 08:46
Truth.
Red Eye Robot July 28th, 2014 at 23:38
the UN condemns Israel Turkey’s PM says Israel is like the Nazi’s blah blah blah, The fact is If the Israelis were Arabs Instead of destroying tunnels and Hamas hideouts they would be in Gaza cutting off Palestinian heads
Obewon July 28th, 2014 at 23:59
But they are in Gaza blowing up and shooting hundreds of unarmed Palestinian women, children and teens. Bibi to GOP: ‘my next $3 billion war funds arrive on October 1, 2014 via FY-15 right?’
greenfloyd July 29th, 2014 at 06:51
Your facts, as usual, are spot on. Although I expect “Bibi” may need a little more help from us Americans, not just the GOP. Gaza will need a miracle to survive at all. God-speed to John Kerry. I tried to make my main concerns clear above, I’d be intersted in your (and anybody else’s) reaction to a US led evacuation of non-combatants from Gaza.
Red Eye Robot July 28th, 2014 at 23:38
the UN condemns Israel Turkey’s PM says Israel is like the Nazi’s blah blah blah, The fact is If the Israelis were Arabs Instead of destroying tunnels and Hamas hideouts they would be in Gaza cutting off Palestinian heads
Obewon July 28th, 2014 at 23:59
But Israeli IDF is in Gaza blowing up and shooting hundreds of unarmed Palestinian women, children and teens. Bibi to GOP: ‘my next $3 billion war funds arrive October 1, 2014 at the beginning of your FY-15 budget right?’ Israel’s permanent war-economy state guarantees a “new generation of killers is being created by the ongoing hostilities.”
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 29th, 2014 at 06:51
Your facts, as usual, are spot on. Although I expect “Bibi” may need a little more help from us Americans, not just the GOP. Gaza will need a miracle to survive at all. God-speed to John Kerry. I tried to make my main concerns clear above, I’d be intersted in your (and anybody else’s) reaction to a US led evacuation of non-combatants from Gaza.
peacedreamer July 29th, 2014 at 00:03
If destroying the tunnels is the goal, why are they bombing buildings filled with people? Maybe Benjamin thinks that the world supports his outrageous & reckless approach. I doubt it. He is creating more enemies and more misguided anti-semitism because of the ignorance of those who do not distinguish between peace loving traditional jews & Zionists. There are peace demonstrations in Israel that our media does not report. Why do you suppose that is?
Annual US aid to Israel is 30 billion bucks a year & he lives like a king with a lifestyle that the average Israeli or Palestinian could never have. Another power elitist who demonstrates no regard for people who reject his warpath or the religion he purports to believe in.
greenfloyd July 30th, 2014 at 03:18
US Annual aid to Israel is around $3 billion, not 30. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_States_relations
I have seen US and international media coverage of the protests in Israel. At the moment the PM is enjoying around 85% public approval.
peacedreamer July 29th, 2014 at 00:03
If destroying the tunnels is the goal, why are they bombing buildings filled with people? Maybe Benjamin thinks that the world supports his outrageous & reckless approach. I doubt it. He is creating more enemies and more misguided anti-semitism because of the ignorance of those who do not distinguish between peace loving traditional jews & Zionists. There are peace demonstrations in Israel that our media does not report. Why do you suppose that is?
Annual US aid to Israel is 30 billion bucks a year & he lives like a king with a lifestyle that the average Israeli or Palestinian could never have. Another power elitist who demonstrates no regard for people who reject his warpath or the religion he purports to believe in.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 30th, 2014 at 03:18
US Annual aid to Israel is around $3 billion, not 30. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_States_relations
I have seen US and international media coverage of the protests in Israel. At the moment the PM is enjoying around 85% public approval.
greenfloyd July 29th, 2014 at 00:40
Our (American) position is like a friend caught in the middle between feuding families. We plead with both sides to stop fighting, but so far it falls on deaf ears. I’d suggest we offer to take the women and children of Gaza out of harms way, however, it appears American no longer does refugees and it’s doubtful Hamas would allow their valuable martyrs to leave and loose their cynical PR battle with Israel. I do wonder what would happen if we sent our Navy in on a humanitarian mission and offer to get those non-combatants off the battlefield?
Obewon July 29th, 2014 at 12:22
Remove from Gaza’s most densely populated homes on Earth to where? This is a UN issue. I don’t think the U.S. should repeat the past. Israel has attacked our Military with deadly results: A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen via the BBC. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html
greenfloyd July 30th, 2014 at 00:13
So as to “where” to place the Gazans? Frankly I do not know. Who wants to try and save the Palestinians? Perhaps, the “Islamic State” would take them (just joking).
I don’t see the connection between the sinking of the USS Liberty nearly 50 years ago and what’s going on today? I certainly hope it does not mean you would just as soon America cut ties with Israel and hence loose whatever moderating influence it has with them?
At this point the “where” is not so important. I also understand I’m wishing for a miracle. When history is written I would like it to indicate America did everything it could to save lives and make peace between our warring friends.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 29th, 2014 at 00:40
Our (American) position is like a friend caught in the middle between feuding families. We plead with both sides to stop fighting, but so far it falls on deaf ears. I’d suggest we offer to take the women and children of Gaza out of harms way, however, it appears America no longer does refugees and it’s doubtful Hamas would allow their valuable martyrs to leave and loose their cynical PR battle with Israel. I do wonder what would happen if we sent our Navy in on a humanitarian mission and offer to get those non-combatants off the battlefield?
Obewon July 29th, 2014 at 12:22
Remove from Gaza’s most densely populated homes on Earth to where? This is a UN issue. I don’t think the U.S. should repeat the past. Israel has attacked our Military with deadly results: A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen via the BBC. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 30th, 2014 at 00:13
So as to “where” to place the Gazans? Frankly I do not know. Who wants to try and save the Palestinians? Perhaps, the “Islamic State” would take them (just joking).
I don’t see the connection between the sinking of the USS Liberty nearly 50 years ago and what’s going on today? I certainly hope it does not mean you would just as soon America cut ties with Israel and hence loose whatever moderating influence it has with them?
At this point the “where” is not so important. I also understand I’m wishing for a miracle. When history is written I would like it to indicate America did everything it could to save lives and make peace between our warring friends.
bpollen July 29th, 2014 at 04:10
It seems to me like the US is a big guy who goes to the bar with his little buddy. The US has been coming to little buddy’s rescue when he flies off the handle and attacks innocent people at the slightest provocation. After more than a couple of times, isn’t the US just enabling his little buddy’s bad behavior?
greenfloyd July 29th, 2014 at 04:29
I do not agree Hamas’ firing rockets, or digging into Israel is a “slight provocation.” These are acts of war!
So, if you were Netanyahu what would you do? And what do you think about a US led humanitarian mission to evecuate non-combatants?
bpollen July 29th, 2014 at 04:46
Look at the respective death tolls. Look at the level of response. Look at what places Israel is targeting. Hamas shoots a few rockets, Israel attacks homes, apartment buildings, hospitals, U-frickin’-N schools. Israeli minister claims Palestinians are committing “self-genocide.” Israel invades and claims Palestinian land, builds Jewish houses on it. That TOO is an act of war. Deliberately targeting places you KNOW are filled with civilians IS a war crime. So, Netanyahoo’s response is to commit acts of war AND war crimes. Neither side is blameless here, but Israel is responding to a tiny guy throwing a rock by trying to beat him to death.
As far as what I would do if I were Netanyahoo, well, I certainly wouldn’t choose to steal land or commit war crimes. I also wouldn’t be trying to create the Warsaw Ghetto in reverse.
greenfloyd July 29th, 2014 at 05:33
It’s clear you have given this a lot of thought, I appreciate your opinions. I admit, as an American I feel much closer to Israel than Palestine or Hamas. That does not mean I absolve Israel of any past outrages, (yes there’s a long list). Right now my two main concerns are 1) brookering more cease fire periods, and 2) removing the non-combatants off the battlefield.
How Isreal would resond to a US led evac is an important factor. I just wonder if it’s even been considered by Obama; who I’m sure would run it by the PM… I suspect he’d be for it because I do beleive he does not want to kill innocents and it would leave Hamas hostageless.
bpollen July 29th, 2014 at 05:50
I don’t have any religious or political axe to grind on this issue. And, as I said, neither side is a choirboy here. I just think that when using lethal force, the response should be commensurate with the threat. And I am really big on killing civilians being a bad thing. If Hamas targets the IDF directly, or the IDF targets Hamas directly, then I could see that as attacking legitimate targets. Targeting civilians is terrorism, regardless of who is doing it.
greenfloyd July 29th, 2014 at 06:05
I’m pretty sure IDF would love to contront Hamas mano-a-manao, or at least whithout the constraint and obvious tragedy of non-combatatns serving as human-shields.
uzza July 29th, 2014 at 13:30
Digging a tunnel is an act of war? You have some strange ideas, like forcibly removing people, to …what, establish a new homeland for them, maybe in Texas? Or just ‘detain’ them, and later return them to the smoking radioactive slag heap where their homes used to be?
Lose that Hollywood vision of war, where two equally matched armies square off and fight it out man to man to the cheers of civilian spectators until one side “wins”, and then they all go share a beer. Listen to the North Vietnamese colonel who said it was true that the US never lost a battle in VN but it was also irrelevant. Ask yourself what feeling ‘much closer to Israel than Palestine’ has to do with being American?
Last week two bodies were found in LA and a full scale invasion of the San Fernando Valley by the US Army, using F-16s, tanks and bunker busters, did not follow in response. Why, because it would be counterproductive to not treat this as a criminal matter to be handled by law enforcement, just as when someone blew up the Federal Building, set off a bomb at a marathon or carried out a mass shooting. Of course that option disapears when your police are indistinguishable from your Military.
I don’t have specific answers, but if I were king of the US, I’d tell Israel they won’t get another nickle until they stop with the macho; if I were Netanyahoo I’d eliminate distinctions between Jews and others and start treating everyone in my country as a human being.
Dwendt44 July 29th, 2014 at 17:13
There is a Palestinian home land in Jordan.
Besides that the repeated sneak attacks and murders by Hamas would continue ad nausium. How long should Israel put up with that? Hiding their weapons under civilian buildings and hiding behind civilians means that hitting back causes civilian deaths. That’s on Hamas, they don’t care about the people, only about injuring the Nation of Israel.
greenfloyd July 30th, 2014 at 00:48
You certainly gave me a lot to chew on.
Tunnels: the only important thing is Israel considers them an act of aggression and will continue a search and destroy mission as long as they see them as a threat.
Evacuation: I did not mean to imply forcing people and I’m not proposing a new homeland. Let’s try to limit the discussion to an humanitarian (voluntary) evacuation of non-combatants in Gaza. “Strange idea?” OK, that’s fair. I guess it’s nuts to try and save lives.
I wanted to emphasize my personal perspective, perhaps I should have wrote, “As one American…” I appreciate that all Americans do not feel the same. Nonetheless I think a vast majority of Americans would be for saving lives of innocent people caught in an impossible position.
bpollen July 29th, 2014 at 04:10
It seems to me like the US is a big guy who goes to the bar with his little buddy. The US has been coming to little buddy’s rescue when he flies off the handle and attacks innocent people at the slightest provocation. After more than a couple of times, isn’t the US just enabling his little buddy’s bad behavior?
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 29th, 2014 at 04:29
I do not agree Hamas’ firing rockets, or digging into Israel is a “slight provocation.” These are acts of war!
So, if you were Netanyahu what would you do? And what do you think about a US led humanitarian mission to evecuate non-combatants?
bpollen July 29th, 2014 at 04:46
Look at the respective death tolls. Look at the level of response. Look at what places Israel is targeting. Hamas shoots a few rockets, Israel attacks homes, apartment buildings, hospitals, U-frickin’-N schools. Israeli minister claims Palestinians are committing “self-genocide.”
Israel invades and claims Palestinian land, builds Jewish houses on it. That TOO is an act of war. Deliberately targeting places you KNOW are filled with civilians IS a war crime. So, Netanyahoo’s response is to commit acts of war AND war crimes. Neither side is blameless here, but Israel is responding to a tiny guy throwing a rock by trying to beat him to death.
As far as what I would do if I were Netanyahoo, well, I certainly wouldn’t choose to steal land or commit war crimes. I also wouldn’t be trying to create the Warsaw Ghetto in reverse.
I notice you don’t dispute that they are attacking innocent people with the weapons of war. I think that our coming in to evacuate the innocents would just free up Gaza so Israel could, and almost certainly would, bomb it into rubble (with us buying the bombs.) And what if they decide that they won’t allow the evacuees to be resettled and maybe start building Israeli houses in the areas we evacuated? So, we have refugees and Israel gets new land. Protecting the little buddy again.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 29th, 2014 at 05:33
It’s clear you have given this a lot of thought, I appreciate your opinions. I admit, as an American I feel much closer to Israel than Palestine or Hamas. That does not mean I absolve Israel of any past outrages, (yes there’s a long list). Right now my two main concerns are 1) brookering more cease fire periods, and 2) removing the non-combatants off the battlefield.
How Isreal would resond to a US led evac is an important factor. I just wonder if it’s even been considered by Obama; who I’m sure would run it by the PM… I suspect he’d be for it because I do beleive he does not want to kill innocents and it would leave Hamas hostageless.
bpollen July 29th, 2014 at 05:50
I don’t have any religious or political axe to grind on this issue. And, as I said, neither side is a choirboy here. I just think that when using lethal force, the response should be commensurate with the threat. And I am really big on killing civilians being a bad thing. If Hamas targets the IDF directly, or the IDF targets Hamas directly, then I could see that as attacking legitimate targets. Targeting civilians is terrorism, regardless of who is doing it.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 29th, 2014 at 06:05
I’m pretty sure IDF would love to contront Hamas mano-a-manao, or at least whithout the constraint and obvious tragedy of non-combatants serving as human-shields.
uzza July 29th, 2014 at 13:30
Digging a tunnel is an act of war? You have some strange ideas, like forcibly removing people, to …what, establish a new homeland for them, maybe in Texas? Or just ‘detain’ them, and later return them to the smoking radioactive slag heap where their homes used to be?
Lose that Hollywood vision of war, where two equally matched armies square off and fight it out man to man to the cheers of civilian spectators until one side “wins”, and then they all go share a beer. Listen to the North Vietnamese colonel who said it was true that the US never lost a battle in VN but it was also irrelevant. Ask yourself what feeling ‘much closer to Israel than Palestine’ has to do with being American?
Last week two bodies were found in LA and a full scale invasion of the San Fernando Valley by the US Army, using F-16s, tanks and bunker busters, did not follow in response. Why, because it would be counterproductive to not treat this as a criminal matter to be handled by law enforcement, just as when someone blew up the Federal Building, set off a bomb at a marathon or carried out a mass shooting. Of course that option disapears when your police are indistinguishable from your Military.
I don’t have specific answers, but if I were king of the US, I’d tell Israel they won’t get another nickle until they stop with the macho; if I were Netanyahoo I’d eliminate distinctions between Jews and others and start treating everyone in my country as a human being.
Dwendt44 July 29th, 2014 at 17:13
There is a Palestinian home land in Jordan.
Besides that the repeated sneak attacks and murders by Hamas would continue ad nausium. How long should Israel put up with that? Hiding their weapons under civilian buildings and hiding behind civilians means that hitting back causes civilian deaths. That’s on Hamas, they don’t care about the people, only about injuring the Nation of Israel.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org July 30th, 2014 at 00:48
You certainly gave me a lot to chew on.
Tunnels: the only important thing is Israel considers them an act of aggression and will continue a search and destroy mission as long as they see them as a threat.
Evacuation: I did not mean to imply forcing people and I’m not proposing a new homeland. Let’s try to limit the discussion to an humanitarian (voluntary) evacuation of non-combatants in Gaza. “Strange idea?” OK, that’s fair. I guess it’s nuts to try and save lives.
I wanted to emphasize my personal perspective, perhaps I should have wrote, “As one American…” I appreciate that all Americans do not feel the same. Nonetheless I think a vast majority of Americans would be for saving lives of innocent people caught in an impossible position.
Dwendt44 July 29th, 2014 at 17:16
The constant squabbling and agreement breaking will continue forever.
Maybe we, as in the U.S., should just turn our backs and walk away and let them fight it out.
Dwendt44 July 29th, 2014 at 17:16
The constant squabbling and agreement breaking will continue forever.
Maybe we, as in the U.S., should just turn our backs and walk away and let them fight it out.