Israel Bombs Mosque And Center For The Disabled
Two residents were killed, and three wounded as Israel continues its bombing campaign against Hamas causing much collateral damage.
Click here for reuse options!A separate strike on the house of a police commander killed at least 18 people, the highest toll so far this conflict, bringing the total number of dead to at least 140, Palestinian officials said.
In response, Hamas fired a barrage of rockets at Tel Aviv, Israel’s largest city, garnering much attention despite causing no deaths or injuries, as three of them were intercepted…
The Israeli bombing of the center for the disabled, the Mabaret Palestine Society here in northern Gaza, occurred just before dawn, when a missile crashed through the roof and exploded. Because it was the weekend, only five of the 19 severely disabled residents were at the center, while the rest were with their families, said Jamila Elaiwa, who founded the center 20 years ago…
At the mosque that was bombed on Saturday, in the Nusseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, only the minaret was left standing. Young men joined the junior imam, Muhammad Hamad, 25, in digging through the rubble to save copies of the Quran and other religious works.
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RichWa July 13th, 2014 at 09:43
So why does only Israel get blamed when both side are wrong. The fact that groups such as Hamas and Hezbolah use civilians and civilian facilities to hide and launch their munitions goes unmentioned and ignored? The fact that Hamas tells people to ignore Israeli warnings and stay where they are goes ignored? The fact that Hamas does not provide bomb shelters nor directs people to protect themselves is ignored.
Israel is wrong in so much of what they are doing today, including settlements, collectively punishing Palestinians, etc but they are not, nor ever have been, the sole source of the horrible conditions that the Palestinians live in; Hamas, the old PLO, the surrounding Arab states, etc have equal responsibility as they are no better. How many Palestinians were, and still are, being killed by Hezbolah/Syria in Assad’s quest to keep power?
As long as we liberals can understand that sometimes both sides are wrong — dead wrong is the case of the Middle East, our work actively continues the suffering we are trying to erradicate.
crc3 July 13th, 2014 at 09:55
Wars and skirmishes in the Middle East are both a part of history and , unfortunately, the future. Any “peace” in the region eventually erupts into violence because of the hate spewing from opposition parties. There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Peace is a pipe dream and will remain that way…probably forever…
mea_mark July 13th, 2014 at 12:43
As long as people are motivated by my GOD being better than or holier than your GOD, peace will remain elusive. The middle east as a whole needs to realize the source of almost all their current problems comes from religion and how it allows them to be manipulated by it.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 20:12
A fine analysis of suicide terrorism by Robert Pape titled “Dying to Win” examined every suicide bombing he could find from about 1980 to 2004 (I don’t have my copy at hand so these dates are approximate). His analysis shows that religion plays a role as an organizing factor. When organizing for a particular purpose, one tends to approach those with whom one has common interests, socially.
Pape’s analysis shows that religion does not cause terrorism.
If we were in Saudi Arabia and organized a basketball league, we would find that just about everyone participating was Muslim. That would not mean that basketball is a Muslim sport.
In the Middle East, the struggle is marked by secular, political goals and issues and we find those on either side dominated by members of religious groups.
The history of the Middle East shows that Jews, Christians and Muslims can generally get along for spans lasting hundreds of years. This shows that faith is not necessarily preventative of a solution.
Hatred of those who have different religious views than one’s own, or hatred of all people of faith is not going to be helpful.
Rather, tolerance is to be desired.
One hopes you have such tolerance for others.
mea_mark July 13th, 2014 at 22:01
My point is that religion any religion can be used to manipulate people. That is all I am saying, don’t read into it, what isn’t there.
Israel exist, my feelings on that are unimportant, what is important is what we do in making the situation a peaceful one where we can all exist. We can’t change what has happened. What we can do is strive to make the world a better place without passing judgement on one another.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 22:15
I agree that religion can be used to motivate people to one thing or another, good or evil.
I would add it is not required for anyone to do good or evil, either.
I also agree with you that we can’t change the past, we need to find solutions to problems of the present.
I would add that understanding how we got here is helpful. I find it curious you decline to say whether Israel has a right to exist.
I am not home, so I don’t have Pape’s book at hand, but do have notes I took from “Dying to Win”:
“… the main goals of suicide terrorist groups are
profoundly of this world. Suicide terrorist campaigns are primarily
nationalistic, not religious, nor are they particularly Islamic….. every group mounting a suicide campaign over the past two decades has had as a major objective – or as its central objective – coercing a foreign state that has military forces in what the terrorists see as their homeland to take those forces out….”
– page 21
“My study surveys all 315 suicide terrorist attacks around the globe from 1980 to 2003. The data show that there is not the close connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism that many people think. Rather,what all suicide terrorist campaigns have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel democracies to withdraw military forces from the terrorists’ national homeland. Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is often used as a tool by terrorist organizations in recruiting and in other efforts in service of the broader strategic
objective.”
“
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 22:27
Here is more from Pape’s book:
“Hamas and al-Qaeda are crucial cases. Both groups espouse
Islamic fundamentalist ideologies. Both charge Christian and Jews with crimes against Muslims. And both seek to overturn what they view as foreign military occupations – Hamas, to end Israeli occupation of Palestinian land; al-Qaeda, to drive out what it sees as the American occupation of the Arabian Peninsula since 1990 as well as of Afghanistan since 2001 and Iraq since 2003.
Comparison of target selection for Hamas and al-Qaeda shows
that combating foreign military occupation is more central than religious motives for both groups. If religious hostility were paramount, one would expect both Hamas and al-Qaeda to attack both Christians and Jews. Similarly, if revenge for perceived injuries were a central motive, one would expect both groups to attack both the United States and Israel. However, each group in fact concentrates its effort against the opponent that actually has troops stationed on what it sees as it homeland territory. Hamas concentrates almost all of its effort against Israel and has not attacked the United States or American citizens outside of Israel and Palestine. Al-Qaeda’s main effort has been against the United States and against American allies that have deployed troops in Afghanistan and Iraq; al-Qaeda has never attacked Israel and has rarely attacked Jewish targets elsewhere. Although Hamas complains that the United States supports Israel’s occupation of Palestine, and al-Qaeda says that Israel and Jews control American foreign policy, neither group actually expends significant effort to attack opponents who do not have troops occupying their homeland.”
– page 46-47
fahvel July 13th, 2014 at 12:22
Isreal, as it is today, has no right to be.
mea_mark July 13th, 2014 at 12:36
It is though. We can’t go back in time and change it so we need to figure out a way to deal with the situation today and tomorrow. Blaming the past does not solve the problems of the future.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:57
Do you also feel Israel has no right to exist?
RichWa July 13th, 2014 at 13:31
So what do you propose as a solution?
If the leadership, on both sides, wanted peace and prosperity for all, that is what there would be. Instead, the leadership, chooses to inflicit, the pain and suffering on their people and others. If the leadership in the Middle East valued peace above personal power, the Israeli and Palestinian peoples could create wonderful lives for themselves and their children.
And then there are the religous fanatics on all sides, fundamentalist Jews, Muslims, and Christians all sharing the same god, the god of Abraham, and using their imaginary god as an excuse to kill innocents.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:42
That kind of nonsense hardly deserves a reply from serious people dealing with serious issues in a serious way.
Fahvel seems to wish to be excluded from such a group. Such people are best ignored because they provide nothing but a useless distraction.
FVS July 14th, 2014 at 09:25
And just were do you suppose those European Jews that survived the Holocaust we supposed to go after 1945. The Balfour Deceleration had been in place since the end of WW I. They have as much right to a sovereign state as any other people with a distinct ct culture and language.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:50
I agree.
Neither side has clean hands. That said, there is no equivalence because currently Hamas and others continue a policy that attempts to maximize civilian casualties whereas Israel attempts to minimize them.
People with extreme views, such as fahvel, below, only fan the flames and prevent peaceful resolution.
The fact that Israel has this Iron Dome and the Palestinians do not serves to highlight the stupidity of Hamas in provoking war in which their side is the greater loser. Under these circumstances, Hamas should be far more willing than they are to peaceful negotiation because they stand to lose far less and gain far more.
But they are too damned stupid to realize that.
RichWa July 13th, 2014 at 20:21
The people running Hamas are not stupid. They are self-serving with absolutely no concern for the well-being of those they claim to care for. They themselve hide behind innocents for protection and use the bloodshed to promote their cause. They are really no different than the sociopathic people that run our corporations that make decisions every day that kill and maim us so they can increase their profits; the key difference are the visuals, not the end effects.
Also, having Israel/Jews as a target and excuse for the squalor help keep the different Muslim sects from killing each other as we see in Syria, Iraq, and elsewhere. What we see in the middle east with Muslim killing Muslim has very strong likelihood of taking root, again, here between Protestants, Catholic, Mormons, etc.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 21:11
I think their dedication to violence is stupid, and more stupid when they decide to fight a fight in which they bring so much death and destruction on their own people.
I think you have a point in keeping things tense and preventing peace serves as a distraction. I would add that it serves to distract from the lousy job the Arabs have done in self-governance.
For decades after the founding of Israel, Palestinians were kept in horrid conditions in camps administered by Arab countries wealthy enough to provide far more.
I think a major reason we have the Muslim-on-Muslim violence you describe is because their society did not go through the Age of Reason. I do not think we will see the same internecine, intractable cycle of violence take place here. Sure, occasionally there will be isolated outbreaks by this or that fringe group of kooks, but I think such eruptions will be temporary.
RichWa July 13th, 2014 at 09:43
So why does only Israel get blamed when both side are wrong. The fact that groups such as Hamas and Hezbolah use civilians and civilian facilities to hide and launch their munitions goes unmentioned and ignored? The fact that Hamas tells people to ignore Israeli warnings and stay where so they can become carnage (if not actively preventing people from leaving) goes ignored? The fact that Hamas does not provide bomb shelters nor directs people to protect themselves is ignored.
Israel is wrong in so much of what they are doing today, including settlements, collectively punishing Palestinians, etc but they are not, nor ever have been, the sole source of the horrible conditions that the Palestinians live in; Hamas, the old PLO, the surrounding Arab states, etc have equal responsibility as they are no better. How many Palestinians were, and still are, being killed by Hezbolah/Syria in Assad’s quest to keep power?
Until we liberals can understand that sometimes both sides are wrong — dead wrong is the case of the Middle East, our work actively continues the suffering we are trying to erradicate. What solutions do we, as liberals, have for the Israels to stop the random rocket attacks into civilian areas by Hamas, Hezbolah, et al?
crc3 July 13th, 2014 at 09:55
Wars and skirmishes in the Middle East are both a part of history and , unfortunately, the future. Any “peace” in the region eventually erupts into violence because of the hate spewing from opposition parties. There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Peace is a pipe dream and will remain that way…probably forever…
mea_mark July 13th, 2014 at 12:43
As long as people are motivated by my GOD being better than or holier than your GOD, peace will remain elusive. The middle east as a whole needs to realize the source of almost all their current problems comes from religion and how it allows them to be manipulated by it.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 20:12
A fine analysis of suicide terrorism by Robert Pape titled “Dying to Win” examined every suicide bombing he could find from about 1980 to 2004 (I don’t have my copy at hand so these dates are approximate). His analysis shows that religion plays a role as an organizing factor. When organizing for a particular purpose, one tends to approach those with whom one has common interests, socially.
Pape’s analysis shows that religion does not cause terrorism.
If we were in Saudi Arabia and organized a basketball league, we would find that just about everyone participating was Muslim. That would not mean that basketball is a Muslim sport.
In the Middle East, the struggle is marked by secular, political goals and issues and we find those on either side dominated by members of religious groups.
The history of the Middle East shows that Jews, Christians and Muslims can generally get along for spans lasting hundreds of years. This shows that faith is not necessarily preventative of a solution.
Hatred of those who have different religious views than one’s own, or hatred of all people of faith is not going to be helpful.
Rather, tolerance is to be desired.
One hopes you have such tolerance for others.
mea_mark July 13th, 2014 at 22:01
My point is that religion any religion can be used to manipulate people. That is all I am saying, don’t read into it, what isn’t there.
Israel exist, my feelings on that are unimportant, what is important is what we do in making the situation a peaceful one where we can all exist. We can’t change what has happened. What we can do is strive to make the world a better place without passing judgement on one another.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 22:15
I agree that religion can be used to motivate people to one thing or another, good or evil.
I would add it is not required for anyone to do good or evil, either.
I also agree with you that we can’t change the past, we need to find solutions to problems of the present.
I would add that understanding how we got here is helpful. I find it curious you decline to say whether Israel has a right to exist.
I am not home, so I don’t have Pape’s book at hand, but do have notes I took from “Dying to Win”:
“… the main goals of suicide terrorist groups are
profoundly of this world. Suicide terrorist campaigns are primarily
nationalistic, not religious, nor are they particularly Islamic….. every group mounting a suicide campaign over the past two decades has had as a major objective – or as its central objective – coercing a foreign state that has military forces in what the terrorists see as their homeland to take those forces out….”
– page 21
“My study surveys all 315 suicide terrorist attacks around the globe from 1980 to 2003. The data show that there is not the close connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism that many people think. Rather,what all suicide terrorist campaigns have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel democracies to withdraw military forces from the terrorists’ national homeland. Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is often used as a tool by terrorist organizations in recruiting and in other efforts in service of the broader strategic
objective.”
“
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 22:27
Here is more from Pape’s book:
“Hamas and al-Qaeda are crucial cases. Both groups espouse
Islamic fundamentalist ideologies. Both charge Christian and Jews with crimes against Muslims. And both seek to overturn what they view as foreign military occupations – Hamas, to end Israeli occupation of Palestinian land; al-Qaeda, to drive out what it sees as the American occupation of the Arabian Peninsula since 1990 as well as of Afghanistan since 2001 and Iraq since 2003.
Comparison of target selection for Hamas and al-Qaeda shows
that combating foreign military occupation is more central than religious motives for both groups. If religious hostility were paramount, one would expect both Hamas and al-Qaeda to attack both Christians and Jews. Similarly, if revenge for perceived injuries were a central motive, one would expect both groups to attack both the United States and Israel. However, each group in fact concentrates its effort against the opponent that actually has troops stationed on what it sees as it homeland territory. Hamas concentrates almost all of its effort against Israel and has not attacked the United States or American citizens outside of Israel and Palestine. Al-Qaeda’s main effort has been against the United States and against American allies that have deployed troops in Afghanistan and Iraq; al-Qaeda has never attacked Israel and has rarely attacked Jewish targets elsewhere. Although Hamas complains that the United States supports Israel’s occupation of Palestine, and al-Qaeda says that Israel and Jews control American foreign policy, neither group actually expends significant effort to attack opponents who do not have troops occupying their homeland.”
– page 46-47
fahvel July 13th, 2014 at 12:22
Isreal, as it is today, has no right to be.
mea_mark July 13th, 2014 at 12:36
It is though. We can’t go back in time and change it so we need to figure out a way to deal with the situation today and tomorrow. Blaming the past does not solve the problems of the future.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:57
Do you also feel Israel has no right to exist?
RichWa July 13th, 2014 at 13:31
So what do you propose as a solution?
If the leadership, on both sides, wanted peace and prosperity for all, that is what there would be. Instead, the leadership, chooses to inflicit, the pain and suffering on their people and others. If the leadership in the Middle East valued peace above personal power, the Israeli and Palestinian peoples could create wonderful lives for themselves and their children.
And then there are the religous fanatics on all sides, fundamentalist Jews, Muslims, and Christians all sharing the same god, the god of Abraham, and using their imaginary god as an excuse to kill innocents.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:42
That kind of nonsense hardly deserves a reply from serious people dealing with serious issues in a serious way.
Fahvel seems to wish to be excluded from such a group. Such people are best ignored because they provide nothing but a useless distraction.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:50
I agree.
Neither side has clean hands. That said, there is no equivalence because currently Hamas and others continue a policy that attempts to maximize civilian casualties whereas Israel attempts to minimize them.
People with extreme views, such as fahvel, below, only fan the flames and prevent peaceful resolution.
The fact that Israel has this Iron Dome and the Palestinians do not serves to highlight the stupidity of Hamas in provoking war in which their side is the greater loser. Under these circumstances, Hamas should be far more willing than they are to peaceful negotiation because they stand to lose far less and gain far more.
But they are too damned stupid to realize that.
RichWa July 13th, 2014 at 20:21
The people running Hamas are not stupid. They are self-serving with absolutely no concern for the well-being of those they claim to care for. They themselve hide behind innocents for protection and use the bloodshed to promote their cause. They are really no different than the sociopathic people that run our corporations that make decisions every day that kill and maim us so they can increase their profits; the key difference are the visuals, not the end effects.
Also, having Israel/Jews as a target and excuse for the squalor help keep the different Muslim sects from killing each other as we see in Syria, Iraq, and elsewhere. What we see in the middle east with Muslim killing Muslim has very strong likelihood of taking root, again, here between Protestants, Catholic, Mormons, etc.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 21:11
I think their dedication to violence is stupid, and more stupid when they decide to fight a fight in which they bring so much death and destruction on their own people.
I think you have a point in keeping things tense and preventing peace serves as a distraction. I would add that it serves to distract from the lousy job the Arabs have done in self-governance.
For decades after the founding of Israel, Palestinians were kept in horrid conditions in camps administered by Arab countries wealthy enough to provide far more.
I think a major reason we have the Muslim-on-Muslim violence you describe is because their society did not go through the Age of Reason. I do not think we will see the same internecine, intractable cycle of violence take place here. Sure, occasionally there will be isolated outbreaks by this or that fringe group of kooks, but I think such eruptions will be temporary.
Nate Kean July 13th, 2014 at 10:13
Alan, Did you also remember to post this to “Im a self hating Jew so I post Palestinian propaganda”?
Jake July 13th, 2014 at 10:53
Religion is a curse – how can any religious person see this as something their God wants? That is why we must always be on our guard for religion infringing on our rights in the US.
TAX the CHURCHES.
MarcoZandrini July 13th, 2014 at 11:03
“Religion poisons everything.” Christopher Hitchens (RIP)
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:37
Hitchens was wrong. Were he alive, I would invite him to come here and see what is being done by people of faith at the homeless shelter, the food bank, the food pantry, Goodwill, Salvation Army and many others.
Hitchens is dead, but I’ll extend the invitation to you, Mr. Zandrini. I live near Fredericksburg, Virginia and would be happy to take you around to see what religious people are doing here.
I think you will not only find plenty of reason to change your opinion, but you’ll also want to pitch in and help some wonderful people do wonderful things.
MarcoZandrini July 13th, 2014 at 19:57
So, as a person who does not want or need a “religion,” I can’t do good deeds at homeless shelters, etc. I donate time, food and money to various causes, including the local food bank. Twice a year my wife and I go through clothes that we no longer need and donate to the Alexandria Goodwill. No, good deeds aren’t limited to people of religion. Hello, I know an atheist who volunteers his time and cash.
You see, religion puts God in a “box.” Oh, you must pray this way. You can’t eat this or that food. Bullshit. You really think God really cares about that? Go on believing that stuff such as the bible.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 20:50
MarcoZandrini: “So, as a person who does not want or need a “religion,” I can’t do good deeds at homeless shelters, etc.”
The notion that this was what I was saying is incorrect. Not only does nothing I said imply such a thing, the invitation I extended proves the opposite.
Hitchens was wrong and I provided evidence to support a contrary view. If you are in Alexandria, Virginia, it would not take long to come down here so I can show you around. If you are too busy helping out at your local food bank, etc. to do so, fine.
The more one helps in such efforts, the more one sees people of faith acting on their beliefs to help others. These wonderful people do not deserve to be lumped in with the ugly stereotypes and hateful comments such as those by Hitchens. One hopes you will be big enough to take a stand on behalf of these people who do so much good in your community, Mr. Zandrini, even though you do not share their faith.
Instead of standing against some bigotry, try standing against all of it, including that directed against groups you are not a member of.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 20:58
MarcoZandrini: “You see, religion puts God in a “box.” Oh, you must pray this way. You can’t eat this or that food. Bullshit. You really think God really cares about that? Go on believing that stuff such as the bible.”
I am a Christian. There are thousands of Christian sects with much variance in how certain scriptures are handled. I seldom express my own personal beliefs, but in this case will tell you that in Corinthians we Christians are told if someone is a vegetarian, that’s fine and if they want to eat meat, that’s fine, too and if someone has a different view than yours on diet you should leave them alone about it.
I object to you putting words and beliefs into my mouth that I have not said or believe. I imagine you would not like others to do that to you.
I learned this lesson from Jesus, and find it a good rule to live by – treat others the way you’d like to be treated.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:32
Religion is no curse where I live.
For example, SERVE, a food bank run basically by 2 Christian women, in April served over 1,000 individuals and families, giving them over 80,000 pounds of food the month before last.
Interfaith efforts in this area go a long way to housing the homeless, feeding the hungry, helping the poor pay their heating bills in the winter. They collect, store and distribute an extraordinary amount of goods among those in need. I don’t know where you live, Jake, but if you’ll get involved with local charities doing the same sort of thing where you live, you will find the same thing – that faith often inspires people to be less selfish and to help others more. Not only that, but you’ll find those faith-based organizations often have networks established to get the job done and are organized to do it efficiently.
Where I live, to the homeless, hungry and poor, religion inspires adherents in such a way as to be a blessing.
MarcoZandrini July 13th, 2014 at 11:03
“Religion poisons everything.” Christopher Hitchens (RIP)
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:37
Hitchens was wrong. Were he alive, I would invite him to come here and see what is being done by people of faith at the homeless shelter, the food bank, the food pantry, Goodwill, Salvation Army and many others.
Hitchens is dead, but I’ll extend the invitation to you, Mr. Zandrini. I live near Fredericksburg, Virginia and would be happy to take you around to see what religious people are doing here.
I think you will not only find plenty of reason to change your opinion, but you’ll also want to pitch in and help some wonderful people do wonderful things.
MarcoZandrini July 13th, 2014 at 19:57
So, as a person who does not want or need a “religion,” I can’t do good deeds at homeless shelters, etc. I donate time, food and money to various causes, including the local food bank. Twice a year my wife and I go through clothes that we no longer need and donate to the Alexandria Goodwill. No, good deeds aren’t limited to people of religion. Hello, I know an atheist who volunteers his time and cash.
You see, religion puts God in a “box.” Oh, you must pray this way. You can’t eat this or that food. Bullshit. You really think God really cares about that? Go on believing that stuff such as the bible.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 20:50
MarcoZandrini: “So, as a person who does not want or need a “religion,” I can’t do good deeds at homeless shelters, etc.”
The notion that this was what I was saying is incorrect. Not only does nothing I said imply such a thing, the invitation I extended proves the opposite.
Hitchens was wrong and I provided evidence to support a contrary view. If you are in Alexandria, Virginia, it would not take long to come down here so I can show you around. If you are too busy helping out at your local food bank, etc. to do so, fine.
The more one helps in such efforts, the more one sees people of faith acting on their beliefs to help others. These wonderful people do not deserve to be lumped in with the ugly stereotypes and hateful comments such as those by Hitchens. One hopes you will be big enough to take a stand on behalf of these people who do so much good in your community, Mr. Zandrini, even though you do not share their faith.
Instead of standing against some bigotry, try standing against all of it, including that directed against groups you are not a member of.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 20:58
MarcoZandrini: “You see, religion puts God in a “box.” Oh, you must pray this way. You can’t eat this or that food. Bullshit. You really think God really cares about that? Go on believing that stuff such as the bible.”
I am a Christian. There are thousands of Christian sects with much variance in how certain scriptures are handled. I seldom express my own personal beliefs, but in this case will tell you that in Corinthians we Christians are told if someone is a vegetarian, that’s fine and if they want to eat meat, that’s fine, too and if someone has a different view than yours on diet you should leave them alone about it.
I object to you putting words and beliefs into my mouth that I have not said or believe. I imagine you would not like others to do that to you.
I learned this lesson from Jesus, and find it a good rule to live by – treat others the way you’d like to be treated.
burqa July 13th, 2014 at 19:32
Religion is no curse where I live.
For example, SERVE, a food bank run basically by 2 Christian women, in April served over 1,000 individuals and families, giving them over 80,000 pounds of food the month before last.
Interfaith efforts in this area go a long way to housing the homeless, feeding the hungry, helping the poor pay their heating bills in the winter. They collect, store and distribute an extraordinary amount of goods among those in need. I don’t know where you live, Jake, but if you’ll get involved with local charities doing the same sort of thing where you live, you will find the same thing – that faith often inspires people to be less selfish and to help others more. Not only that, but you’ll find those faith-based organizations often have networks established to get the job done and are organized to do it efficiently.
Where I live, to the homeless, hungry and poor, religion inspires adherents in such a way as to be a blessing.
FVS July 14th, 2014 at 02:09
Granted that there are plenty of Palestinians who live in horid conditions. Sadly much of that is the result of their own toleration for the corruption of their so called leaders a d the fact that their so called Arab breatheren have used them as pawns in the larger war of hatred against the Jews which creates a convenient means of distraction from the corruption of their own governments.