Ex-Bush Official: Bush Would Have Made Same Deal For Bergdahl
Ex-Bush Official: GWB Would Have Made Same Deal To Free Sgt. Bergdahl (via http://crooksandliars.com)
By John Amato June 3, 2014 2:10 pm – Comments Former Bush administration official John Bellinger made a great case for supporting President Obama’s decision to swap five Taliban prisoners for the lone U.S. POW. Former Bush administration official, John…
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Bob Waas Sr. June 3rd, 2014 at 22:25
I don’t know if Bush would have made that deal, but he sure would make the deal for the Marine being held in Mexico
Clearwater1948 June 4th, 2014 at 01:20
Well I kind of disagree I would suggest four out of the five Harry Reid Hillary Clinton Nancy Pelosi and Eric Holder but please enough with attacking the president of the United States
Obewon June 4th, 2014 at 03:09
It’s illegal for non citizens to have guns in the USA. Why doesn’t the dumb crowd understand Mexico’s quid-pro-quo in last months arrest of a non military US guy illegally in Mexico with 3 guns?
Last month the woosie called his mommy saying ‘I’m gonna die in a Mexican jail’, then the Next day he called his mommy back again saying “Great news I ESCAPED into a good part of the jail!”-D’oh! When his trial is over for BREAKING into Mexico with 3 guns -maybe gun nuts will understand the rule of law vs a US active duty Soldier, held captive as a POW for 5 years by the Taliban! http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/08/justice/us-marine-mexico-prison/ Video of the gun nuts Mommy telling what a woosie crazy Glenn Beck’s LazyTV is fundraising off of.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 09:37
Too bad you don’t hold this same strong position with the violation of the law when millions of illegal immigrants cross over into the USA.
Bergdahl was a deserter and not worth the lives of those who went to look for him, or the 5 terrorists traded for him.
TiredOfThemAll June 4th, 2014 at 10:02
Too bad you don’t hold this same strong position with the violation of the law when millions of illegal immigrants cross over into the USA.
________
That is at a record low.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/
Meanwhile, good thing the Uniform Code of Military Justice isn’t based on opinions on the battlefield.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 11:45
And that is low because? It is a fact that millions enter our country illegally, costing taxpayers millions of dollars, changing the culture of America and you think pointing out those who are sworn to uphold the laws of the USA are not enforcing the law is wrong. And this is a record low?
TiredOfThemAll June 4th, 2014 at 12:01
When did I say they are not enforcing the law?
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 17:02
You didn’t, I did.
TiredOfThemAll June 4th, 2014 at 17:05
” you think pointing out those who are sworn to uphold the laws of the USA are not enforcing the law is wrong.”
“When did I say they are not enforcing the law?”
Again, I didn’t say “those who are sworn to uphold the laws of the USA are not enforcing the law”
I don’t believe that is the case.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 20:17
I said it is wrong for those who swore to uphold the laws don’t do so. How about starting with enforcement of the immigration laws. Instead of deporting the prisoners, Obama orders their release. The law calls for deportation and our leaders have been lax in enforcing the law for decades.
When a leader from the border state tries to crack down the ACLU takes them to court and the activist judges sides with them. http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/II/VIII/1325
TiredOfThemAll June 4th, 2014 at 20:38
I said it is wrong for those who swore to uphold the laws don’t do so
______
And we don’t agree that that is happening.
And we don’t agree on what activist judges are.
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 21:19
You don’t agree that there are 12 million illegal immigrants in the USA? If the laws were being enforced they wouldn’t be here.
Here is a list of Judicial activism that has taken place. Instead of upholding the law they interpret the way they want. They’re not lawmakers, they are judges.
http://www.heritage.org/initiatives/rule-of-law/judicial-activism
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 11:50
Apparently the Washington Post disagrees with CNN’s report.
“When the president speaks of “illegal crossings,” he is speaking of “illegal alien apprehensions.” This is an imperfect metric, because officials can somehow manage to tout as a success both a high number (“look how many we caught”) and a low number (“look how much it has dropped.”) It’s also unclear if the same person is caught more than once.
In his statements, Obama has focused on the fact that border apprehensions had dropped along the southern border of the United States.
In fiscal 2011, for instance, the number totaled 327,577, which was indeed the lowest since 1972, which is how Obama was able to claim a 40-year low in his State of the Union address. How much this was due to administration policies is open to question, since the figure had dropped nearly 60 percent since the Great Recession began in late 2007, indicating that dwindling economic opportunities certainly played an important role.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-claims-on-illegal-border-crossings/2013/06/17/051a0f70-d787-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_blog.html
TiredOfThemAll June 4th, 2014 at 12:01
The WaPo gave the statement The Geppetto CheckmarkStatements and claims that contain “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” will be recognized with our prized Geppetto checkmark.
?????
craig7120 June 4th, 2014 at 10:08
You know what, you’re a piece of work. Bad.
Wasn’t worth the lives of those who went to look for him? Way to denigrade our soldiers. You sit there in the comfort of your home and you decide whos worthy of our soldiers lives?
Soldiers don’t keep a list like santa clause you digusting excuse for a man, soldiers protect our weakest, not the so called worthy by your standards. You sir are beyond help. Keep on talking, you define the line of what a decent human being is not.
Take this with you…..as a professed xtian you certainly do not spread a positive message, your hatred is on display for all to see.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 12:19
So you think the lives of those lost searching for a deserter was a worthy cause? Maybe you should ask the families of the dead soldiers. If you think I was denigrating those brave men, you’re wrong. I’m just questioning the character of the one who deserted them.
Now accusations are coming from those same troops he served with that attacks by his captives were so precise that they must have received OP strategies. Maybe we should ask traitor to his list of qualities.
Glad to see you are practicing the liberal SOP of accusing someone with whom you disagree with of not being a decent human being.
craig7120 June 4th, 2014 at 12:51
You squawk from a lazyboy and demean the squad who were following orders, if soldiers died trying to rescue this young man I say they fought valiantly and did it with honor and courage.
NOT say their deaths are from bad decisions made by men/women who are in the theater. Despicable
Take your medicine, you’ve bashed our government for the past six years because your side is nuts and can’t collect enough votes to win an election. Spit on the troops all you want, its your right, you sofa general.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 17:01
If Bergdahl is a deserter as members of his troop claim, then my sympathy lies solely with the family who lost loved ones who went searching for him. If you take that as spitting on our troops then you are totally wrong, it is just the opposite, I’m spitting on Bergdahl for putting those men in that position.
I’ve bashed Obama policies because they are not good for America. I don’t bash our government, just some of the leaders.
mea_mark June 4th, 2014 at 10:08
You might want to get up to date. It is starting to like the lives lost looking for Berghahl is a false partisan narrative. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/world/middleeast/can-gi-be-tied-to-6-lost-lives-facts-are-murky.html?emc=edit_th_20140604&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=58712335&_r=0
Obewon June 4th, 2014 at 12:34
TYVM Mea_Mark for proof that the six soldiers KIA weren’t on any rescue mission. Meanwhile Wass Sr is further debunked by TOTA noting WaPo proves the opposite of what birther Bob Sr claimed. Furthermore nonpartisan Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact as always drives the stake into the Sr vampire’s coffin: “The Obama administration increased the deportation of illegal immigrants convicted of crimes by 70%”-True! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/11/barack-obama/obama-says-deportation-criminals-70-percent-under-/
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 18:34
More bogus data. Obama ordered the release of 36,000 illegal immigrant prisoners, instead of deporting them. Doesn’t sound like a good immigration policy to me.
“A new report from the Center for Immigraiton Studies says the Obama administration released 36,000 undocumented criminals from detention last year. Scary numbers, but there’s more to the story. “Feds Released Hundreds of Immigrant Murderers, Drunk Drivers, Sex-Crimes Convicts”—The Washington Times.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/15/inside-the-center-for-immigration-studies-the-immigration-false-fact-think-tank.html
TiredOfThemAll June 4th, 2014 at 18:58
The Daily Beast calls this bogus
ICE deputy press secretary Gillian Christiansen highlighted key points that CIS failed to address, such as the fact that convicted criminals are only sent into ICE custody for deportation proceedings once they’ve completed their criminal sentence. Many of the 2013 releases, ICE says, were required by law. For example, as a result of the 2001 Supreme Court decision in Zadvydas v. Davis, the U.S. is required to release detainees whose home country either denies the return of its nationals or has diplomatic beef with the United States, such as North Korea or Cuba. Christiansen says some detainees with less serious offenses were released at the discretion of enforcement officers based on “the priority of holding the individual, given ICE’s resources, and prioritizing the detention and removal of individuals who pose a risk to public safety or national security.”
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 21:55
Oh yea, you use The Daily Beast as a source of honesty; give me a break.
TiredOfThemAll June 4th, 2014 at 22:15
YOU used the Daily Beast as a source;
“More bogus data. Obama ordered the release of 36,000 illegal immigrant prisoners, instead of deporting them. Doesn’t sound like a good immigration policy to me.”A new report from the Center for Immigraiton Studies says the Obama administration released 36,000 undocumented criminals from detention last year. Scary numbers, but there’s more to the story. “Feds Released Hundreds of Immigrant Murderers, Drunk Drivers, Sex-Crimes Convicts”—The Washington Times.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/a…”
ALL your sources are hyper-partisan, especially the Center for Immigraiton Studies
No other sources but far right wing ones report this story.
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 22:28
My post directs you to the source of the information; ICE. In fact, it is listed on the bottom of the document.
TiredOfThemAll June 4th, 2014 at 22:15
YOU used the Daily Beast as a source;
“More bogus data. Obama ordered the release of 36,000 illegal immigrant prisoners, instead of deporting them. Doesn’t sound like a good immigration policy to me.”A new report from the Center for Immigraiton Studies says the Obama administration released 36,000 undocumented criminals from detention last year. Scary numbers, but there’s more to the story. “Feds Released Hundreds of Immigrant Murderers, Drunk Drivers, Sex-Crimes Convicts”—The Washington Times.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/a…”
ALL your sources are hyper-partisan, especially the Center for Immigraiton Studies
No other sources but far right wing ones report this story.
Shades June 4th, 2014 at 22:23
He’s got you. A post of yours from four hours ago has a Daily Beast link at the bottom. What jig are you going to do to seemingly avoid this faux pas?
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 22:25
Yea, it is hard for the liberals to argue against their holy grail.
arc99 June 4th, 2014 at 22:37
we liberals do not have a “holy grail”.
please do not assume that we share the same type of unthinking herd mentality that is omnipresent on the right,
e.g. Sarah/Rush/Hannity/Levin said it, so it must be true.
Obewon June 4th, 2014 at 19:32
Lol. Nonpartisan Pulitzer Prize winning verification of the well proven facts Vs deadclown Breitbart. The GOPeanut gallery Washington Times. Pull your head out for air and keep teabagging yourself to death.
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 21:53
More reports. http://cis.org/ICE-Document-Details-36000-Criminal-Aliens-Release-in-2013
A lot of detail on each of those released. Your numbers are never right and you rarely provide a source that is not committed to carrying Obama’s water, no matter how bizarre.
Shades June 4th, 2014 at 10:31
Sooo, your opinion is of higher importance than the general who says we absolutely did the right thing? Hubris much?
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 12:10
Even ultra liberal Diane Feinstein says it was a bad deal and sets a bad precedent.
arc99 June 4th, 2014 at 12:22
Diane Feinstein is not an ultra liberal.. Where in the world do you get this nonsense?
I suppose anyone who disagrees with you is an ultra liberal?
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 18:23
I determined her status as an ultra liberal based on her voting record. I took the quiz to compare my conservative views with hers and we only agree 15% of the time. If I’m an ultra conservative, then based on the scores, she is an ultra liberal.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Quiz/results2012.asp?quiz=SenateTOP&state=CA&q1=5&q2=5&q3=5&q4=1&q5=5&q6=1&q7=1&q8=5&q9=2&q10=1&q11=4&q12=4&q13=1&q14=5&q15=5&q16=4&q17=2&q18=1&q19=5&q20=1&Submit=Score+the+quiz%21
arc99 June 4th, 2014 at 18:50
the world does not revolve around you and your beliefs.
when it comes to issues, Sen. Feinstein is very much to the right of true leftists like my old Congressional representative Barbara Lee representing Oakland and Berkeley CA. Rep. Lee was the only member of Congress in either house to oppose the war in Afghanistan. If the term “ultra liberal” is to mean anything (and personally I do not think it does), to consider Sen. Feinstein, in the same vein as people like Sen Sanders of Vermont and Rep. Lee all as “ultra liberals” is preposterous
Shades June 4th, 2014 at 18:04
Ah yes, the famous Waas dodge. Can’t answer honestly without looking foolish so “Squirrel!!” Let’s try again. Is your opinion more valuable than General Dempsey, yes or no?
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 18:19
My opinion is just that, an opinion. I don’t feel that the deaths of those who died because of Bergdahl’s actions can ever be called justified.
Bob Waas Sr. June 3rd, 2014 at 22:25
I don’t know if Bush would have made that deal, but he sure would make the deal for the Marine being held in Mexico
Clearwater1948 June 4th, 2014 at 01:20
Well I kind of disagree I would suggest four out of the five Harry Reid Hillary Clinton Nancy Pelosi and Eric Holder but please enough with attacking the president of the United States
Obewon June 4th, 2014 at 03:09
It’s illegal for non citizens to have guns in the USA too. So how come the dumb crowd doesn’t understand Mexico enforcing it’s sovereignty & gun laws quid-pro-quo in last months arrest of a non military US guy illegally in Mexico with 3 guns?
Last month the woosie called his mommy saying ‘I’m gonna die in a Mexican jail’, then the Next day he called his mommy back again saying “Great news I ESCAPED into a good part of the jail!” When his trial is over for illegally BREAKING into Mexico with 3 guns -maybe gun nuts will understand the rule of law. Versus a US active duty Soldier, held captive and Tortured as a POW for 5 years by the Taliban & that GWB would’ve traded 5 Talibani in exchange to FREE the US Active Duty POW from torture! http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/08/justice/us-marine-mexico-prison/ Video of the gun nuts mommy telling what a woosie scofflaw crazy Glenn Beck’s LazeTV is fundraising off of.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 09:37
Too bad you don’t hold this same strong position with the violation of the law when millions of illegal immigrants cross over into the USA.
Bergdahl was a deserter and not worth the lives of those who went to look for him, or the 5 terrorists traded for him.
OldLefty June 4th, 2014 at 10:02
Too bad you don’t hold this same strong position with the violation of the law when millions of illegal immigrants cross over into the USA.
________
That is at a record low.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/
Meanwhile, good thing the Uniform Code of Military Justice isn’t based on opinions on the battlefield.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 11:45
And that is low because? It is a fact that millions enter our country illegally, costing taxpayers millions of dollars, changing the culture of America and you think pointing out those who are sworn to uphold the laws of the USA are not enforcing the law is wrong. And this is a record low?
OldLefty June 4th, 2014 at 12:01
When did I say they are not enforcing the law?
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 17:02
You didn’t, I did.
OldLefty June 4th, 2014 at 17:05
” you think pointing out those who are sworn to uphold the laws of the USA are not enforcing the law is wrong.”
“When did I say they are not enforcing the law?”
Again, I didn’t say “those who are sworn to uphold the laws of the USA are not enforcing the law”
I don’t believe that is the case.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 20:17
I said it is wrong for those who swore to uphold the laws don’t do so. How about starting with enforcement of the immigration laws. Instead of deporting the prisoners, Obama orders their release. The law calls for deportation and our leaders have been lax in enforcing the law for decades.
When a leader from the border state tries to crack down the ACLU takes them to court and the activist judges sides with them. http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/II/VIII/1325
OldLefty June 4th, 2014 at 20:38
I said it is wrong for those who swore to uphold the laws don’t do so
______
And we don’t agree that that is happening.
And we don’t agree on what activist judges are.
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 21:19
You don’t agree that there are 12 million illegal immigrants in the USA? If the laws were being enforced they wouldn’t be here.
Here is a list of Judicial activism that has taken place. Instead of upholding the law they interpret the way they want. They’re not lawmakers, they are judges.
http://www.heritage.org/initiatives/rule-of-law/judicial-activism
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 11:50
Apparently the Washington Post disagrees with CNN’s report.
“When the president speaks of “illegal crossings,” he is speaking of “illegal alien apprehensions.” This is an imperfect metric, because officials can somehow manage to tout as a success both a high number (“look how many we caught”) and a low number (“look how much it has dropped.”) It’s also unclear if the same person is caught more than once.
In his statements, Obama has focused on the fact that border apprehensions had dropped along the southern border of the United States.
In fiscal 2011, for instance, the number totaled 327,577, which was indeed the lowest since 1972, which is how Obama was able to claim a 40-year low in his State of the Union address. How much this was due to administration policies is open to question, since the figure had dropped nearly 60 percent since the Great Recession began in late 2007, indicating that dwindling economic opportunities certainly played an important role.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-claims-on-illegal-border-crossings/2013/06/17/051a0f70-d787-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_blog.html
OldLefty June 4th, 2014 at 12:01
The WaPo gave the statement The Geppetto CheckmarkStatements and claims that contain “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” will be recognized with our prized Geppetto checkmark.
?????
craig7120 June 4th, 2014 at 10:08
You know what, you’re a piece of work. Bad.
Wasn’t worth the lives of those who went to look for him? Way to denigrade our soldiers. You sit there in the comfort of your home and you decide whos worthy of our soldiers lives?
Soldiers don’t keep a list like santa clause you digusting excuse for a man, soldiers protect our weakest, not the so called worthy by your standards. You sir are beyond help. Keep on talking, you define the line of what a decent human being is not.
Take this with you…..as a professed xtian you certainly do not spread a positive message, your hatred is on display for all to see.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 12:19
So you think the lives of those lost searching for a deserter was a worthy cause? Maybe you should ask the families of the dead soldiers. If you think I was denigrating those brave men, you’re wrong. I’m just questioning the character of the one who deserted them.
Now accusations are coming from those same troops he served with that attacks by his captives were so precise that they must have received OP strategies. Maybe we should ask traitor to his list of qualities.
Glad to see you are practicing the liberal SOP of accusing someone with whom you disagree with of not being a decent human being.
craig7120 June 4th, 2014 at 12:51
You squawk from a lazyboy and demean the squad who were following orders, if soldiers died trying to rescue this young man I say they fought valiantly and did it with honor and courage.
NOT say their deaths are from bad decisions made by men/women who are in the theater. Despicable
Take your medicine, you’ve bashed our government for the past six years because your side is nuts and can’t collect enough votes to win an election. Spit on the troops all you want, its your right, you sofa general.
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 17:01
If Bergdahl is a deserter as members of his troop claim, then my sympathy lies solely with the family who lost loved ones who went searching for him. If you take that as spitting on our troops then you are totally wrong, it is just the opposite, I’m spitting on Bergdahl for putting those men in that position.
I’ve bashed Obama policies because they are not good for America. I don’t bash our government, just some of the leaders.
mea_mark June 4th, 2014 at 10:08
You might want to get up to date. It is starting to look like the lives lost looking for Berghahl is a false partisan narrative. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/world/middleeast/can-gi-be-tied-to-6-lost-lives-facts-are-murky.html?emc=edit_th_20140604&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=58712335&_r=0
Obewon June 4th, 2014 at 12:34
TYVM Mea_Mark for proof that the six soldiers KIA weren’t on any rescue mission. Meanwhile Wass Sr is further debunked by TOTA noting WaPo proves the opposite of what birther Bob Sr claimed. Furthermore nonpartisan Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact as always drives the final stake into the dishonesty of Sr.’s heart: “The Obama administration increased the deportation of illegal immigrants convicted of crimes by 70%”-True! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/11/barack-obama/obama-says-deportation-criminals-70-percent-under-/
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 18:34
More bogus data. Obama ordered the release of 36,000 illegal immigrant prisoners, instead of deporting them. Doesn’t sound like a good immigration policy to me.
“A new report from the Center for Immigraiton Studies says the Obama administration released 36,000 undocumented criminals from detention last year. Scary numbers, but there’s more to the story. “Feds Released Hundreds of Immigrant Murderers, Drunk Drivers, Sex-Crimes Convicts”—The Washington Times.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/15/inside-the-center-for-immigration-studies-the-immigration-false-fact-think-tank.html
OldLefty June 4th, 2014 at 18:58
The Daily Beast calls this bogus
ICE deputy press secretary Gillian Christiansen highlighted key points that CIS failed to address, such as the fact that convicted criminals are only sent into ICE custody for deportation proceedings once they’ve completed their criminal sentence. Many of the 2013 releases, ICE says, were required by law. For example, as a result of the 2001 Supreme Court decision in Zadvydas v. Davis, the U.S. is required to release detainees whose home country either denies the return of its nationals or has diplomatic beef with the United States, such as North Korea or Cuba. Christiansen says some detainees with less serious offenses were released at the discretion of enforcement officers based on “the priority of holding the individual, given ICE’s resources, and prioritizing the detention and removal of individuals who pose a risk to public safety or national security.”
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 21:55
Oh yea, you use The Daily Beast as a source of honesty; give me a break.
OldLefty June 4th, 2014 at 22:15
YOU used the Daily Beast as a source;
“More bogus data. Obama ordered the release of 36,000 illegal immigrant prisoners, instead of deporting them. Doesn’t sound like a good immigration policy to me.”A new report from the Center for Immigraiton Studies says the Obama administration released 36,000 undocumented criminals from detention last year. Scary numbers, but there’s more to the story. “Feds Released Hundreds of Immigrant Murderers, Drunk Drivers, Sex-Crimes Convicts”—The Washington Times.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/a…”
ALL your sources are hyper-partisan, especially the Center for Immigraiton Studies
No other sources but far right wing ones report this story.
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 22:28
My post directs you to the source of the information; ICE. In fact, it is listed on the bottom of the document.
Shades June 4th, 2014 at 22:23
He’s got you. A post of yours from four hours ago has a Daily Beast link at the bottom. What jig are you going to do to seemingly avoid this faux pas?
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 22:25
Yea, it is hard for the liberals to argue against their holy grail.
arc99 June 4th, 2014 at 22:37
we liberals do not have a “holy grail”.
please do not assume that we share the same type of unthinking herd mentality that is omnipresent on the right,
e.g. Sarah/Rush/Hannity/Levin said it, so it must be true.
Obewon June 4th, 2014 at 19:32
Lol. Nonpartisan Pulitzer Prize winning verification of the well proven facts Vs Botz-Wass Sr quoting Breitbart & The GOPeanut gallery Washington Times. Pull your head out for air and keep teabagging yourself to death.
Use your fingers: GWB:”The raw number of convicted criminals who were deported went from 114,415 in 2008.”
Vs POTUS Obama “to 195,772 in 2010. That’s +71% So that squares with Obama’s claim. -Data for the first half of the 2011 fiscal year (which began at the end of September) suggests that trend is continuing, with about 52% of the deportations involving convicted criminals”
…And yet Bob Wass keeps insisting ‘36,000 is more than’ “195,772!” via POTUS Obama “to 195,772 in 2010. That’s +71% So that squares with Obama’s claim”-ICE verified by Politifact & Botz’ own posted WaPo & Daily Beat links that debunk his own delusional posts!
Bob Waas June 4th, 2014 at 21:53
More reports. http://cis.org/ICE-Document-Details-36000-Criminal-Aliens-Release-in-2013
A lot of detail on each of those released. Your numbers are never right and you rarely provide a source that is not committed to carrying Obama’s water, no matter how bizarre.
Shades June 4th, 2014 at 10:31
Sooo, your opinion is of higher importance than the general who says we absolutely did the right thing? Hubris much?
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 12:10
Even ultra liberal Diane Feinstein says it was a bad deal and sets a bad precedent.
arc99 June 4th, 2014 at 12:22
Diane Feinstein is not an ultra liberal.. Where in the world do you get this nonsense?
I suppose anyone who disagrees with you is an ultra liberal?
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 18:23
I determined her status as an ultra liberal based on her voting record. I took the quiz to compare my conservative views with hers and we only agree 15% of the time. If I’m an ultra conservative, then based on the scores, she is an ultra liberal.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Quiz/results2012.asp?quiz=SenateTOP&state=CA&q1=5&q2=5&q3=5&q4=1&q5=5&q6=1&q7=1&q8=5&q9=2&q10=1&q11=4&q12=4&q13=1&q14=5&q15=5&q16=4&q17=2&q18=1&q19=5&q20=1&Submit=Score+the+quiz%21
arc99 June 4th, 2014 at 18:50
the world does not revolve around you and your beliefs.
when it comes to issues, Sen. Feinstein is very much to the right of true leftists like my old Congressional representative Barbara Lee representing Oakland and Berkeley CA. Rep. Lee was the only member of Congress in either house to oppose the war in Afghanistan. If the term “ultra liberal” is to mean anything (and personally I do not think it does), to consider Sen. Feinstein, in the same vein as people like Sen Sanders of Vermont and Rep. Lee all as “ultra liberals” is preposterous
Shades June 4th, 2014 at 18:04
Ah yes, the famous Waas dodge. Can’t answer honestly without looking foolish so “Squirrel!!” Let’s try again. Is your opinion more valuable than General Dempsey, yes or no?
Bob Waas Sr. June 4th, 2014 at 18:19
My opinion is just that, an opinion. I don’t feel that the deaths of those who died because of Bergdahl’s actions can ever be called justified.
Clearwater1948 June 4th, 2014 at 01:18
Yes President Bush most likely would’ve done the same thing, however what would’ve separated the two would have been this photo op that took place in the Rose Garden. What took place there was impression that this so-called individual who possibly deserted his unit while in combat and by most of those in his unit in Afghanistan suggest that this individual bid deserted his unit but that’s not what’s important not now that come later hopefully what is important is at the present of the United States was placed in a precarious situation a situation that he shouldn’t of been placed in this individual who has gone to return to the United States was deemed as a hero by Rice and the appearance of hugging and kissing the mother and shaken the hand of the father could’ve waited until after the investigation.
Budda June 4th, 2014 at 08:02
Try a period or paragraph next time…you’ll make more sense.
Clearwater1948 June 4th, 2014 at 01:18
Yes President Bush most likely would’ve done the same thing, however what would’ve separated the two would have been this photo op that took place in the Rose Garden. What took place there was impression that this so-called individual who possibly deserted his unit while in combat and by most of those in his unit in Afghanistan suggest that this individual bid deserted his unit but that’s not what’s important not now that come later hopefully what is important is at the present of the United States was placed in a precarious situation a situation that he shouldn’t of been placed in this individual who has gone to return to the United States was deemed as a hero by Rice and the appearance of hugging and kissing the mother and shaken the hand of the father could’ve waited until after the investigation.
Budda June 4th, 2014 at 08:02
Try a period or paragraph next time…you’ll make more sense.
Shades June 4th, 2014 at 10:37
Of course he would have. It’s what you do. BB’s fellow soldiers have every right to be angry, but they don’t call the shots and neither does the media. The RWNJs are clawing desperately for anything, everything, they think will tarnish Obama, especially the ones so delusional they believe this is finally the road to impeachment. And that 30 days notice BS is just that. Did they really expect Bergdahl, already in failing health, to wait another 30 days just to stroke the republicans ego? What if he had died during that time? I’ll tell you. The republicans would be howling that Obama didn’t act sooner. They’d be praising him as a hero sacrificed by the Obama administration because … something. These are the hard decisions a president has to make, no matter how big a temper tantrum the opposition throws. It’s called leadership.
Shades June 4th, 2014 at 10:37
Of course he would have. It’s what you do. BB’s fellow soldiers have every right to be angry, but they don’t call the shots and neither does the media. The RWNJs are clawing desperately for anything, everything, they think will tarnish Obama, especially the ones so delusional they believe this is finally the road to impeachment. And that 30 days notice BS is just that. Did they really expect Bergdahl, already in failing health, to wait another 30 days just to stroke the republicans ego? What if he had died during that time? I’ll tell you. The republicans would be howling that Obama didn’t act sooner. They’d be praising BB as a hero sacrificed by the Obama administration because … something. These are the hard decisions a president has to make, no matter how big a temper tantrum the opposition throws. It’s called leadership.