McConnell says Republicans will quickly repeal Obamacare
Click here for reuse options!“It’s pretty high on our agenda as you know,” the Kentucky Republican said on Wednesday. “I would be shocked if we didn’t move forward and keep our commitment to the American people.”
McConnell would not explicitly commit to using budget reconciliation to repeal the healthcare law, though it’s the likely path for Republicans to repeal the law, as they have only a narrow Senate majority next year.
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Larry Schmitt November 9th, 2016 at 16:35
Did any of the so-called journalists at this news conference bother to ask him what they would propose to replace it with? Or will 20 million Americans again be without health insurance?
arc99 November 9th, 2016 at 16:44
Apparently no one in the mythical “liberal media” saw fit to ask a simple question.
If any of you so-called journalists out there, happen to come across my post, here is the question you should ask of GOP leadership.
Q: When the ACA was implemented, so-called junk insurance plans were cancelled by the law. Best estimates are that just under 3 million people lost coverage due to this development and had to find coverage elsewhere. An estimated 16 million have health insurance for the first time as a direct result of the ACA. Republicans stridently criticized the loss of coverage for 3 million people when the ACA was rolled out. What are the alternatives for the 16million people who will lose the only insurance they can get if the ACA is repealed?
and under my breath I would be mumbling, if 3million losing coverage is a big deal then why not 16million losing coverage, you full of sh*t hypocrites…..
RightThinkingOne November 9th, 2016 at 20:19
I emphasize the same thing to you as I did with the other poster: It is not the responsibility of the national government to provide, directly or indirectly, medical care.
Dwendt44 November 10th, 2016 at 00:11
It is if it wants to.
granpa.usthai November 10th, 2016 at 00:12
responsibility – no
best interest – yes.
RightThinkingOne November 10th, 2016 at 00:19
No, it weakens people. Of course, there should be welfare for those who are truly handicapped, dependent children, or insane. I do not even like to include that qualifier because it should be patently obvious to any reasonable adult.
But the government should get out of the health care business – directly and indirectly.
arc99 November 10th, 2016 at 02:00
Tell the people of Australia or Israel or Britain or Japan that universal health care weakens them and they will laugh in your face. The responsibility of the United States government is whatever we the people of this country determine that responsibility is, based on the fundamentals of the US Constitution.
Your OPINION is that government should get out of the health care business.
Government partly or wholly managing health care is the norm in every industrial democracy in the world
It is my OPINION it should also be the norm in this country.
In any case, my main point stands. Republicans making a big deal out of 3million people allegedly losing coverage, while they plan legislation to strip 16million people of coverage is the kind of naked partisan hypocrisy that tells me that their pledges of bringing the country together are a crock..
Jimmy Fleck November 10th, 2016 at 09:41
Based on the results of the most recent election, I would say that America has determined that they do not want Universal healthcare at this time. Keep fighting for it and maybe America will change their minds at a future election. As for now, it is clear that the ACA should be repealed as that is what the voters voted for by installing a majority Republican Congress, Senate, and President.
Obewon November 10th, 2016 at 09:58
Offsetting the mandatory spending cost of SCHIP children’s HC via ObamaCare’s $2.5 T+ Federal Deficit reductions: ACA $2.5 T repeal cost, requires cutting $2.5 T discretionary spending e.g. Eliminating all U.S. Milt Pentagon spending for 4 years!
Trump and his supporters are well proven constitutionally, fiscally and economically illiterate. And ‘The ACA reduces Federal Deficits $1.5 T+’-CBO. Plus ‘$1.07 T+ in Medicare savings.’-CBO.
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arc99 November 10th, 2016 at 10:09
Since Hillary Clinton was winning the popular vote as of yesterday, I disagree with your conclusions.
Jimmy Fleck November 10th, 2016 at 10:11
The popular vote does not decide who represents us in this Republic. It is clear that the government elected is majority Republican as Trump won over 300 electoral votes. That is more electoral votes than Obama won on either election I think.
Obewon November 10th, 2016 at 10:16
279 EC votes awarded isn’t “over 300”. Home schooled? http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president & http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
arc99 November 10th, 2016 at 10:18
thanks Obie. I thought his number was off. was going to check it later. the fact is that President Obama won 332 EC votes in 2012.
Obewon November 10th, 2016 at 10:20
Anytime:) And BHO44 won 53% via 2:1 (D) 365 to (R) 173-47% Popular vote in 2008.
Jimmy Fleck November 10th, 2016 at 10:30
Michigan and Arizona have not been awarded yet, but Trump is likely to win those which brings him to over 300. i was wrong about the Obama totals – I don’t know what I was remembering there.
arc99 November 10th, 2016 at 10:16
I am well aware of the role of the Electoral College.
You said “”America has determined that they do not want Universal healthcare at this time.”” That is false under any objective reading. Less than half of America determined they do not want universal health care at this time, and thanks to the Electoral College, they just might get their wish.
The majority of the American people voted for a candidate who would preserve the ACA, not repeal it. No amount of right wing spin is going to change that undisputed fact.
RightThinkingOne November 13th, 2016 at 18:10
Yes, health care in those nations is at least adequate. But that is not the point at all. There is the point about costs and quality, and the free-market lowers costs and improves quality, and there are plenty of REAL LIFE examples of this.
But there is something else: Liberty. It is against our very basic founding principles, liberty, our Constitution and the American Way to have the STATE managing our medical care, directly or indirectly. It is anathema to liberty and our very Constitution!
fahvel November 10th, 2016 at 04:43
the insanity part is well defined by your small minded market place economy which is in contrast to lives filled with health joy and simple pleasure.
RightThinkingOne November 13th, 2016 at 18:23
No, Socialism is based on three main things:
1. Greed and envy
2. Cowardice and fear.
3. Power.
anothertoothpick November 10th, 2016 at 07:39
We tried that. And people went bankrupt just for getting sick.
In all the other industrialized nation, people do not go bankrupt for getting sick.
Only Americans have that privilege.
RightThinkingOne November 13th, 2016 at 18:22
Very few went bankrupt, and most of them were irresponsible: Did not keep insurance, tried to get in AFTER they got sick, did not start at a relatively young age, etc.
Then they expect others to pay for them.
halfwayin November 14th, 2016 at 07:37
“Medical expenses account for 62 percent of bankruptcies in the United States.” – 2007 Harvard study
“17 percent of bankruptcies in the U.S. are due to medical expenses.” – 2006 Kellogg School of Management study
“Medical Bills Are the Biggest Cause of U.S. Bankruptcies” – 2013 NerdWallet Health study
“56M Americans under age 65 will have trouble paying medical bills [in 2013]” – 2013 NerdWallet Health study
“The percentage of people under age 65 in families having problems paying medical bills decreased from 21.7 percent in the first six months of 2011 to 20.3 percent in the first six months of 2012” – 2013 Center for Disease Control study
RightThinkingOne November 15th, 2016 at 17:54
Many points here: A large % of those are from people who CHOSE not to have insurance. Others are from those who suffer from “drug addiction” and “alcoholism!” And most are because people were irresponsible and did not save any money but spent everything they earned.
Bunya November 14th, 2016 at 10:15
So they deserved to die because they didn’t have a boat load of money to pay the extortion prices doctors and hospitals charge? How very “pro-life” of you.
RightThinkingOne November 15th, 2016 at 17:56
Interesting that you think other working people should pay.
Bunya November 16th, 2016 at 10:14
Interesting that you think poor people should be allowed to die so you don’t have to part with your precious money.
RightThinkingOne November 16th, 2016 at 19:08
There are exceptions, but most people without health insurance chose that. They are irresponsible, and working people should not pay for their negligence.
Also, in most cases, this “pre-existing condition” is a bunch of codswallop. Of course (I shouldn’t have to even write this), if a person is born with a condition or acquires it before adulthood (when he is not responsible, and I should not have to write that, either), society should help out. But after? A person is in his, say, 40s, and develops a condition but never bothered to buy insurance, and he expects to get the same rate as those who were responsible?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Dwendt44 November 10th, 2016 at 00:10
We are still waiting for the alternative to ‘Hillary Care’ from 1993. They have NO alternative to offer. The ACA is largely Republican ideas to begin with. The main problem is that it was endorsed by President Obama.
RightThinkingOne November 10th, 2016 at 00:17
The government should stay out of it. The only thing that government should do is promote a free market. When the market is more free, the costs of healthcare go down, and quality goes up. That is not a “theory”; that happens in reality.
fahvel November 10th, 2016 at 04:37
really? Where?
RightThinkingOne November 13th, 2016 at 18:17
Reality: Look at cosmetic surgery. Over the decades, costs have either barely changed, stayed the same, or gone down, based on the procedure. This is because insurance – especially STATE insurance – does not pay for it.
I know the response of STATISTS: There is no “free-market,” etc. But there is no absolute perfection, 100% without the slightest flaw, idealism to the extreme. OF COURSE, as any 13-year old knows, it is all a matter of degree. So, this market – cosmetic surgery – is closer, much closer, to a free market than others, and the result is…. Well, I will be if you are not a teenager or a dependent college student, you have seen the changes in your lifetime.
And there is more: Next post after this.
RightThinkingOne November 13th, 2016 at 18:20
Another: Look up “medical tourism.” Clinics abroad are relatively free of heavy state regulations and state payments. There are excellent ones in Bangkok, for example. Top quality, as good as the upper tier in our nation. And the costs – must pay in cash – are about 1/4 to 1/6 of ours.
The reason is patently obvious: Free-market COMPETITION! Yes, they are not dependent on the STATE backing them up with “medicare” and “ObamaCare” garbage. No. They have to do well, or the foreigners stop going, and they go bust.
The free market: It resulted in low costs and very high quality.
Bunya November 10th, 2016 at 14:41
Reagan ran on free market healthcare (probably something he saw in Nancy’s crystal ball) – and insurance costs keep rising and quality health care has diminished greatly. You forget that insurance is a “for profit” entity. Their agenda is to make as much money as possible while delivering as little service as possible.
RightThinkingOne November 13th, 2016 at 18:35
Please read my response to fahvel just below this. It shows how you are wrong.
Bunya November 14th, 2016 at 10:12
Please read my response above. It’ll show how wrong you are.
Obewon November 10th, 2016 at 00:45
Most everybody knows by now that trump tells 60+ lies per day leaving him just a 4% truth rating. They’re embarrassed to refute ‘today’s 60th trump lie’ and too worried now about being banned from covering the medias cash cow trump.
RightThinkingOne November 9th, 2016 at 20:18
There is a basic concept here: It is not the responsibility of the national government to provide – directly or indirectly – medical care.
fahvel November 10th, 2016 at 04:36
nor highways or airport security or fire fighters or police or sanitation or clean water or, and this is one for you, education. Live in your fools cave and eventually you will relearn to walk and gather and shiver.
RightThinkingOne November 13th, 2016 at 18:12
It is the national government responsibility to provide for interstate highways, of course. States to pay for state police, cities to pay for local police, the national government to pay for the military, and so on.
Basic stuff.
amersham1046 November 9th, 2016 at 16:41
GOPs first action, start stomping on the little people
Robert M. Snyder November 9th, 2016 at 22:29
Most of Trump’s supporter *are* little people. 29% of Hispanics and 62% of non-college-educated white women voted for him.
Dwendt44 November 10th, 2016 at 00:07
But T rump doesn’t need them anymore.
fahvel November 10th, 2016 at 04:34
right you are and now the little people are no longer meaningful or necessary.
anothertoothpick November 10th, 2016 at 07:38
And those trumpanzees are going to pay.
Foundryman November 9th, 2016 at 19:55
The first thing republicans will do is abolish the fillibuster, then trump will appoint someone as fit as he is to be president like Ann Coulter to the supreme court.
Warman1138 November 9th, 2016 at 20:43
Just another day of population control from the GOP. They got theirs, why care about anybody else as long as the money flows in one direction, up.
StoneyCurtisll November 9th, 2016 at 21:13
I just want to know how repealing the AFCA is going to reduce the spiraling cost of health insurance/healthcare?
It isn’t going to do it..
Dwendt44 November 10th, 2016 at 00:05
Insurance costs would be even higher had the ACA no passed. It will skyrocket if the ACA is repealed. It’s the ACA that keeps profits down to 15%, that keeps prior conditions being an excuse to deny, and so forth.
StoneyCurtisll November 9th, 2016 at 21:15
I’m not on Obamacare/AFCA..
And my health insurance went up from just under $60 a week to just over $70 a week..
Robert M. Snyder November 9th, 2016 at 22:35
My sister retired at age 50 from teaching in public schools. She pays $1200/month for a healthcare plan that covers herself and her son who is in college. Last week she suffered a mild concussion and went to the ER. Because she was not admitted, her plan will pay only 20% of the ER charge. She has to cover the remaining 80%.
Will prices come down if insurance companies are allowed to compete across state lines? I don’t know, but I can’t see how a little competition could hurt.
Dwendt44 November 10th, 2016 at 00:02
There is no law restricting insurance companies from ‘competing’ across state lines. THEY DON’T WANT TO. And it wouldn’t make any difference anyway. The rates will be set according to which state or even which zip code a person lives in. Yet, you can’t beat that into the heads of those that keep bringing that B.S. up for discussion.
Robert M. Snyder November 10th, 2016 at 00:52
Do you watch TV? You can’t get through an evening without seeing several car insurance ads. Flo sells Progressive, Liberty Mutual has Lady Liberty in the background of every ad, and Allstate has the deep voice coming from women and children. This is a highly-competitive, national market. But we don’t see ads like these for national health insurance companies. Why not? What makes health insurance different than car insurance? Car insurance rates are not uniform. They are based upon many factors, including where you live and how much you drive. Health insurance rates could and should work the same way. People who live in NY City breathe dirtier air than people who live in Salt Lake City, and they also tend to engage in riskier behaviors like smoking and drinking. Plus, the cost of living is higher in NYC, so everything, including hospitals and doctors, costs more. Therefore, NY City rates would be a lot higher than Salt Lake City rates. That makes sense. But limiting competition gives a virtual monopoly to certain favored companies and results in higher rates. You will know that competition is working when you start seeing more TV ads. Nobody bothers to advertise when they have a monopoly.
anothertoothpick November 10th, 2016 at 07:36
Insurance companies compete just like cable companies compete.
When one company raises prices, they all raise prices.
Obewon November 10th, 2016 at 00:30
Your sister doesn’t have ACA ObamaCare? The ACA requires 80% of premiums to be spent on patient HC. In NY, far better coverage costs $317/mo. Before any subsidies.
HC insurance rate increases slowed remarkably to the lowest level in decades. US record 90% are HC insured today. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4dc007c5cb78c242340d17ebc90e93e98ba0308f25eb2e188add1fe66cb481e3.jpg
fahvel November 10th, 2016 at 04:33
you are therefore very naive! Ins companies have one objective and it’s not paying for your medical needs.
anothertoothpick November 10th, 2016 at 07:33
They would if the competition was the public option.
People in this country are going to needlessly die.
If your sister lived in Canada she would not have to worry about “prices”. You see they have a single payer system.
crc3 November 10th, 2016 at 00:03
The Turtle is a despicable “human being”. He hates Obama and everything the man tried to accomplish as president. I hate him….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mcconnell-trump-obama-undo_us_58237121e4b0e80b02ce7ab7
granpa.usthai November 10th, 2016 at 00:08
gee, I wonder what they have in plan to replace the gap?
Foundryman November 10th, 2016 at 00:36
Does anyone know if democrats on nominating committees have power to block Trumps picks for cabinet positions? Do they have to get through a committee with bipartisan support or can they be railroaded through?
John Bolton for sec of State? Guiliani for AG? Sarah Palin for who knows what! Can they be blocked?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/lord-lord-lord
Obewon November 10th, 2016 at 00:38
“Using budget reconciliation to repeal the (ACA) healthcare law”-‘Reducing Federal budget deficits $1.5 T+’-CBO. GOP will have cut $2 T+ in Pentagon non-discretionary spending to offset the ACA repeal cost of Federal Deficit Increases to repeal Children’s HC SCHIP, etc.
And reversing BHO44’s $1 T+ Medicare savings of ObamaCare. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a70b3291560cf9c3cd21dbca66ca8cb79296f82e2ada833802891663f71dd093.jpg
Foundryman November 10th, 2016 at 00:43
The thing about that is…they don’t care. They don’t care about the deficit, they don’t care how many lose insurance, they don’t care how much damage it’ll put on the entire economy.
Obewon November 10th, 2016 at 00:52
The Santa clause theory: trump plans to add $30 T+ to today’s $14 T “Debt Held by the Public” http://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
I am sure DJT45 will loot the Intragovernmental Holdings $5.5 T SS and Medicare Trustfund Surpluses. http://treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm#DebtOwner
Foundryman November 10th, 2016 at 00:54
Yeah…and once they bust the SS and Medicare fund they’ll claim we can no longer afford to keep them.
fahvel November 10th, 2016 at 04:30
I believe you F, but what then do these pieces of detritus really care about? What have they proposed that will be a real winner for the N. american people – excepting the nice folks in Canada?
Foundryman November 10th, 2016 at 08:12
They care about nothing but themselves. They only want government to work for them when they want it to, they don’t want it to work at all for anyone else. They vote against their own best interests because they don’t want someone else to gain something from the government that they don’t want. So it doesn’t matter to them if progress is blocked. They really have no concept of society and community, it’s all about the individual, I me me I.
Carla Akins November 10th, 2016 at 04:48
Fuck him, seriously, fuck McConnell. Obstructionist bullshit.
anothertoothpick November 10th, 2016 at 07:30
Now that the repubs own the gubmint, including the scotus, a lot of Americans are going to have to learn how to live, or die, without a lot of things.
Carla Akins November 10th, 2016 at 08:15
Yep, as a reasonable old white woman with partner that makes a decent living – I’m probably all good. But I have friends and family that are in real trouble.
Foundryman November 10th, 2016 at 08:21
The democrats need to hold their own secret backroom meetings and elect new leaders with a new plan to take back the senate in two years. They need a young, dignified and personable leader like Obama or a J Kennedy type and get them prepared to run in four years. Shumer, Pelosi and who we have now don’t cut it, their time has passed. Fresh faces with fresh ideas and a populist agenda to ram down the throats of the fascist right wing the next four years and we will come back.
Ned Nutley November 10th, 2016 at 13:03
We will be back to dig America out of the coming GOP economic mess.
amersham1046 November 13th, 2016 at 18:30
name them now–
get your Super Pacs working
stay in the public eye with meeting and rallies
dog the opponents with with audio and video
and keep hammering them
William November 10th, 2016 at 09:01
I’m actually fine. I have perhaps the best health insurance you can get. The trailer dweller on food stamps with the make America great again hat is about to a surprise.
Ned Nutley November 10th, 2016 at 12:58
Yup, I hope the people hurt the most are from the redneck states.