Ryan wants to privatize Medicare

Posted by | November 11, 2016 12:03 | Filed under: News Behaving Badly Politics

Paul Ryan wants big “entitlement reform.”

Said Ryan: “If you’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare, you have to address those issues as well. … Medicare has got some serious issues because of Obamacare. So those things are part of our plan to replace Obamacare… Because of Obamacare, Medicare is going broke.”

Jonathan Chait: “This is false. In fact, it’s the complete opposite of the truth. The Medicare trust fund has been extended 11 years as a result of the passage of Obamacare, whose cost reforms have helped bring health care inflation to historic lows. It is also untrue that repealing Obamacare requires changing traditional Medicare. But Ryan clearly believes he needs to make this claim in order to sell his plan, or probably even to convince fellow Republicans to support it.”

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32 responses to Ryan wants to privatize Medicare

  1. Larry Schmitt November 11th, 2016 at 12:06

    Great, the insurance companies have done a bangup job so far. How long would it take them to completely f*ck up Medicare?

    • DogsRgoodpeople November 11th, 2016 at 12:16

      This is going to be a four year give-a-way to big money.

      • crc3 November 11th, 2016 at 12:19

        This is gonna be four years of pure hell for sure…

    • crc3 November 11th, 2016 at 12:17

      If I have no SS and no Medicare I might as well put a gun to my head and pull the trigger….

      • Larry Schmitt November 11th, 2016 at 12:18

        That’s the republicans’ health plan. Don’t bother with insurance, just die.

      • anothertoothpick November 11th, 2016 at 12:31

        No up vote on that crc3.

        We need you around!

      • causeican November 11th, 2016 at 12:53

        You must learn to rotate the gun grasshopper. Peace only goes so far.

      • Warman1138 November 11th, 2016 at 17:35

        Don’t, get angry and get even come the next time to vote.

  2. halfwayin November 11th, 2016 at 12:23

    Here’so an example.

    Went to get a flu shot at walgreens.

    I am on medicare so the lady typed in the info from my card and I was out of there in 10 minutes.

    My friend has Blue Cross and when the lady typed in the info he was told to take a seat. Half hour later Blue Cross wanted the info re- entered. They were “very busy you know”.

    45 minutes later my friend ask how much is the shot.

    He paid the $40 in cash and walked out.

    This was exactly what Blue Cross counted on.

    • Larry Schmitt November 11th, 2016 at 12:25

      Under my BC plan, I could go to my doctor’s office and get it for free. But I didn’t have to, because my employer provided it, also for free.

  3. anothertoothpick November 11th, 2016 at 12:35

    Privatising won’t work.

    Not without huge government subsidies.

    Most people who are on medicare are already sick and probably old.

    The only reason medicare ever existed was because the insurance companies did not want these people.

    Might as well turn this whole thing into single payer and be done with it.

    • Foundryman November 11th, 2016 at 13:53

      Privatizing is just a code word for enriching cronies.

      Privatizing jails has worked just wonderfully well….for the fascists.

      • Warman1138 November 11th, 2016 at 17:32

        Their stocks went up dramatically after Tuesday.

  4. Suzanne McFly November 11th, 2016 at 12:50

    Well if our “journalists” don’t use facts and call them out for their lies, this is the type of sh!t that will happen. It is like I am slowly watching the floodgates open and I don’t know how to stop it.

    • Mike November 11th, 2016 at 13:32

      It’s gonna get worse…buckle up.

  5. Willys41 November 11th, 2016 at 13:33

    Privatize it? Just repeal it. Why pretend that republicans give a damn if people die?

    • Red Mann November 11th, 2016 at 14:08

      RW health care plan. Don’t get sick, if you do, die.

  6. Foundryman November 11th, 2016 at 13:50

    And just think, there are still some people who believe the republicans won’t over reach. They are going to try to ramrod through the most radical far right agenda the world has ever seen. And when businesses are boarded up, people are left dying and destitute, they’ll blame Obama.

    • Warman1138 November 11th, 2016 at 17:31

      You got that right.

  7. Red Mann November 11th, 2016 at 14:07

    If they break Medicare, my wife and I are dead.

  8. Red Mann November 11th, 2016 at 14:11

    Will the oligarchs who created this mess wake up and see that all this crap will hurt their bottom line and take steps?

  9. robert November 11th, 2016 at 14:37

    Ryan also wants over 100 days off for family time.

    He got away with it in Wisconsin Let’s see how many days he takes off in 2016 ?

  10. halfwayin November 11th, 2016 at 16:07

    Lying Ryan must have figured out a way to purge old Wisconsin voters from voting rolls.

    Wisconsin turnout plummeted to its lowest point in 20 years in the first election where voters were required to present an ID to vote. Trump won the typically presidential blue state by just over 27,000 votes. Wisconsin’s elections chief told The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel he believed voter ID depressed turnout in high poverty wards, as the City of Milwaukee saw 41,000 fewer votes.

    • Bunya November 11th, 2016 at 16:40

      I believe it. Hillary should have had Wisconsin.

  11. Warman1138 November 11th, 2016 at 17:26

    Ryan is a monster, his proposition will doom many so a few can make some money off of it.

  12. SteveD November 11th, 2016 at 19:22

    1. The US federal government has 230 Federal Investment Funds (“Trust Funds”). NONE of them are going “broke.” In fact it is impossible for any agency of the federal government to become insolvent. That is unless Congress in conjunction with the President will it. Do not fall for Mr. Speaker’s lying bullshit. (You know who Ryan works for and it is certainly NOT you or me.)

    2. For Mr. Chait too, he’s also peddling a line of crap. NONE of the federal government trust funds contain any actual dollars-none whatsoever. Their sole “existence” is nothing more than numbers on a spreadsheet.

    3. No federal government “money” actually exists prior to the federal government instructing its banking agent (the Federal Reserve Bank) to credit applicable reserve accounts in the banking system, thereby and at that point, CREATING dollars.

    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/apps/tfp/tfp.htm

  13. Gary Parillo November 12th, 2016 at 00:56

    Trumps plan for the first 100 days;1repeal Obamacare. 2 cancel Obamas executive order on equal pay,sick days,health care,and gun violence.3 Nominate Supreme Court justice who will overturn Roe vs Wade.Shortly thereafter,1ban abortions after 20 weeks2 defund planned parenthood.( alternet).

    Close to 50 years of social progress about to be wiped out within 6 months! Trump made the statement in his acceptance speech that he wants to be the president of “all” the people.Apparantly all the people means the far right evangelical dominionist wackos.This is why for months I have tried to warn people in my posts that if he is elected,the evangelical wackos will see their dreams fulfilled.What is about to happen is a nightmare scenario that leaves out the will of at the very least half of America.I hope you are happy repukes as you gloat in your misguided victory.You are about to destroy a democracy,and live under what may just as well be a theocracy.Maybe next he will sign an executive order requiring all citizens to attend church every Sunday.Welcome to fascism!

  14. labman57 November 12th, 2016 at 01:21

    Ryan and his fellow health insurance lobby lackeys in the Republican Party seek to rehash his heavily discredited proposals from 4 years ago — eliminate Medicare as we know it and replace it with a voucher system that will cover only a small fraction of the elderly’s health care needs.
    … and with it the ability of future senior citizens to obtain affordable chronic condition treatment and preventative health care.

    And just to top it off, Ryan supports the privatization of Social Security so that Americans would be forced to play Russian Roulette with their retirement savings.

    Because, after all, congressional Republicans have their health care coverage and government pension plans — to hell with anyone who doesn’t.

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