Cuba May Not Turn Over Chesimard

Posted by | December 23, 2014 11:00 | Filed under: News Behaving Badly Politics Top Stories


HAVANA — Cuba said Monday that it has a right to grant asylum to U.S. fugitives, the clearest sign yet that the communist government has no intention of extraditing America’s most-wanted woman despite the warming of bilateral ties. Gov. Chris Christie has urged President Barack Obama to demand the return of fugitive Joanne Chesimard before restoring…

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50 responses to Cuba May Not Turn Over Chesimard

  1. StoneyCurtisll December 23rd, 2014 at 11:39

    It’s hard to believe that 50+ years later we still do not allow trade with Cuba..
    I applaud the president in his efforts and I feel ashamed of those that are trying to obfuscate them.

    • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 13:39

      hell, in 50 years, we could have built a bridge from Key West to Havana instead of wasting taxpayer dollars building bridges to Nowhere, Alaska.

  2. StoneyCurtisll December 23rd, 2014 at 12:39

    It’s hard to believe that 50+ years later we still do not allow trade with Cuba..nI applaud the president in his efforts and I feel ashamed of those that are trying to obfuscate them.

    • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 14:39

      hell, in 50 years, we could have built a bridge from Key West to Havana instead of wasting taxpayer dollars building bridges to Nowhere, Alaska.

  3. eyelashviper December 23rd, 2014 at 12:12

    But of course there are no other countries on the planet, with whom we have diplomatic relations, that will not send back anyone we request for crimes committed here.

    • R.J. Carter December 23rd, 2014 at 12:18

      Apparently size matters.

    • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 13:36

      ah hem – I don’t think we’re allowed to mention CHINA, RUSSIA, UKRAINE, MARSHALL ISLANDS, OMAN, SAUDI ARABIA, AFGHANISTAN, KUWAIT, QATAR, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, YEMEN or the VATICAN [just to name a few].

      • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 13:59

        Don’t forget Spain.

  4. Wayout December 23rd, 2014 at 12:12

    Of course Cuba won’t turn this criminal over to us so she can finish her sentence for murder. And they will remain a communist dictatorship with no elections, no press freedom and keep their imprisoning people for their political beliefs. Mark my words, before too long we will be sending money in the form of “foreign aid” to this brutal dictatorship.

    • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 12:27

      1) It’s worth it to send aid to Cuba, if it makes Russia weaker. Because make no mistake, Russia is what this is really about. Cuba is strategically important, and as history has shown, it’s a convenient pad from which an attack on the US can be staged. Now that it looks like the Cold War is back, resuming relations with Cuba and drawing it into the US orbit (with honey, if need be, because vinegar clearly hasn’t worked) drives a big wedge into the anti-US block in Latin America and significantly weakens Russia’s position in the Western Hemisphere. This has got to be the smartest diplomatic move the US has made in decades. And incidentally, if you think the right foreign policy for the US would be to bomb/invade whatever country we need to incline to do what benefits us, think of how much more that would cost (in money, people’s lives, and aftercare for the veterans) than resuming trade and giving some foreign aid. I’m not even talking about the moral or practical aspect of conquering the whole d-d planet; just costs.
      2) As for the idealistic BS, please knock it off. American conservatives have been doing their damndest to make elections in this country less free and less fair, eliminate press freedom and suppress political beliefs they don’t like. Any quip about Cuba’s authoritarian regime rings hollow coming from a conservative.

      • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 13:21

        but some beaten wayout wandering pink eyed robots in AmeriKa consider the ‘former’ KGB leader of WHITE Russia to be a man’s man.?

        • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 13:32

          Actually, that doesn’t surprise me at all. I grew up in Russia back when it was still the Soviet Union. It’s ASTOUNDING how much American conservatives and old-school Marxists have in common. So it’s only natural they like Putin.

      • Wayout December 23rd, 2014 at 14:36

        Borrowing money from China to give to Cuba is insane. Not one dime to the Castro brothers, not one stinking dime! Good heavens, you liberals want to let every poor unskilled person who can sneak across the border come here and stay, and now you advocate giving more money away that we don’t have to such a despicable regime? Like many other countries around the world, the Castro boys are laughing at the ineptitude of our current President.

        • OldLefty December 23rd, 2014 at 14:51

          China has been giving money to China for a long time.

          Guess ‘you cons’ and YOUR inept presidents only like to give money to Pakistan and the mullahs.

        • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 15:05

          Oh! Oh! Oh! You wanna save money? For real? Great! Let’s cancel all those overbloated government contracts designed to enrich politicians’ friends; create a public bidding process unclouded by backroom deals and lobbyists’ machinations. And replace capital gains tax with income tax. And eliminate ridiculous tax breaks that benefit the rich, like deductions for “business entertainment” (you know, giving Wall Street money for hookers and such). And tax the churches already, maybe with a narrow exemption reserved for activities that are TRULY charitable. And let’s stop pouring government money into corporate endeavors that don’t create decent paying jobs, but instead destroy communities and the environment. And speaking of China, let’s stop giving tax subsidies and breaks to corporations that move their operations abroad. In fact, let’s stop giving subsidies to corporations altogether, what is this, Communism for the Rich?? Free market, m-f-, free market. Do you have any idea how much all THAT would save the taxpayers?

          Foreign aid accounts for a tiny, tiny sliver of the US budget. It’s a drop in the bucket. We spend millions of times more on making the rich richer on the backs of the working and middle classes. Funny how you conservatives never seem to get worked up about that.

          Also: Did you not read ANYTHING I said? Like what giving money to Cuba gets us, and what letting Cuba stick with Russia loses us? Is that not a factor for you at all? Gee, it sure makes me feel very safe and warm all over that people of your capacity for deep thought and strategizing run this country. Incidentally, how do you justify giving money to Saudi Arabia? Is it somehow a less dispicable regime in your eyes than Cuba’s? Say what you want about the Castros, at least the regime treats women much better than the Saudi does. Given that we comprise half of humanity, I think that’s pretty significant.

        • SteveD December 23rd, 2014 at 17:22

          The US government does not borrow back its own IOU’s to fund itself. As a Monetary Sovereign, the US “borrows” only to manage the Federal Funds Rate and to provide a safe haven for interest bearing assets. The debt to China has nothing to do with the budget deficit and everything to do with the trade deficit. The Chinese are net purchasers of our assets because every year we buy more goods and services from them than they buy from us. That leaves them with dollars that they do not want to spend yet. So, they invest them. Furthermore, if we wished to pay the debt back tomorrow, we could do so. But, China doesn’t want the dollars–they already had those–they want the interest-bearing assets (US Treasuries a/k/a “federal debt”).

          • Ian December 24th, 2014 at 14:30

            It is ironic that although most people think the national debt is a curse, the US is actually providing a service to entities that want to save money. If the US paid off the “debt” as it came due, and never issued Treasuries anymore, most people would think that that is a good thing. In reality, there would be so much fewer avenues for savers, that instead of being given interest, savers would be charged a fee for safekeeping.

    • edmeyer_able December 23rd, 2014 at 12:28

      If they did return her my question to you and christie is what should our reaction be when they request thousands be returned to Cuba?

      • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 13:11

        send ’em.

        start with the Canadian born Texas Senator and the little Cuban quacker in Florida.

        that should keep their general assembly busy for most of the rest of this century.

    • OldLefty December 23rd, 2014 at 12:34

      Like the Conservatives did for Pakistan and Saudi?

      • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 13:17

        ah hem …

        I don’t think we’re allowed to talk about Saudi Arabia, offshore banks, US bank jets parked at Iranian airports or the funding of terrorist organizations through ‘unknown’ means.

    • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 13:14

      brutal dictatorship?

      butt -your side claims Obama is a ‘brutal dictator’?

      WTF?

      if The Castro’s are as well liked by Cubans as Obama is Americans, then your description of ‘brutal dictatorship’ is wayout.

    • edmeyer_able December 23rd, 2014 at 13:23

      Apparently jerb bush doesn’t share your views on Cuba since he was paid a million a year for 6 years by a bank that was fined 300 million for doing business with them.

    • Stevojax December 23rd, 2014 at 16:17

      Of course before Castro there were no elections and Cuba was run by a dictator and there was no free press, So why is the US government most concerned about freedom today?

  5. eyelashviper December 23rd, 2014 at 13:12

    But of course there are no other countries on the planet, with whom we have diplomatic relations, that will not send back anyone we request for crimes committed here.

    • R.J. Carter December 23rd, 2014 at 13:18

      Apparently size matters.

    • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 14:36

      ah hem – I don’t think we’re allowed to mention CHINA, RUSSIA, UKRAINE, MARSHALL ISLANDS, OMAN, SAUDI ARABIA, AFGHANISTAN, KUWAIT, QATAR, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, YEMEN or the VATICAN [just to name a few].

      • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 14:59

        Don’t forget Spain.

  6. Wayout December 23rd, 2014 at 13:12

    Of course Cuba won’t turn this criminal over to us so she can finish her sentence for murder. And they will remain a communist dictatorship with no elections, no press freedom and keep their imprisoning people for their political beliefs. Mark my words, before too long we will be sending money in the form of “foreign aid” to this brutal dictatorship.

    • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 13:27

      1) It’s worth it to send aid to Cuba, if it makes Russia weaker. Because make no mistake, Russia is what this is really about. Cuba is strategically important, and as history has shown, it’s a convenient pad from which an attack on the US can be staged. Now that it looks like the Cold War is back, resuming relations with Cuba and drawing it into the US orbit (with honey, if need be, because vinegar clearly hasn’t worked) drives a big wedge into the anti-US block in Latin America and significantly weakens Russia’s position in the Western Hemisphere. This has got to be the smartest diplomatic move the US has made in decades. And incidentally, if you think the right foreign policy for the US would be to bomb/invade whatever country we need to incline to do what benefits us, think of how much more that would cost (in money, people’s lives, and aftercare for the veterans) than resuming trade and giving some foreign aid. I’m not even talking about the moral or practical aspect of conquering the whole d-d planet; just costs.n2) As for the idealistic BS, please knock it off. American conservatives have been doing their damndest to make elections in this country less free and less fair, eliminate press freedom and suppress political beliefs they don’t like. Any quip about Cuba’s authoritarian regime rings hollow coming from a conservative.

      • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 14:21

        but some beaten wayout wandering pink eyed robots in AmeriKa consider the ‘former’ KGB leader of WHITE Russia to be a man’s man.?

        • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 14:32

          Actually, that doesn’t surprise me at all. I grew up in Russia back when it was still the Soviet Union. It’s ASTOUNDING how much American conservatives and old-school Marxists have in common. So it’s only natural they like Putin.

      • Wayout December 23rd, 2014 at 15:36

        Borrowing money from China to give to Cuba is insane. Not one dime to the Castro brothers, not one stinking dime! Good heavens, you liberals want to let every poor unskilled person who can sneak across the border come here and stay, and now you advocate giving more money away that we don’t have to such a despicable regime? Like many other countries around the world, the Castro boys are laughing at the ineptitude of our current President.

        • OldLefty December 23rd, 2014 at 15:51

          China has been giving money to China for a long time.

          Guess ‘you cons’ and YOUR inept presidents only like to give money to Pakistan and the mullahs.

        • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 16:05

          Oh! Oh! Oh! You wanna save money? For real? Great! Let’s cancel all those overbloated government contracts designed to enrich politicians’ friends; create a public bidding process unclouded by backroom deals and lobbyists’ machinations. And replace capital gains tax with income tax. And eliminate ridiculous tax breaks that benefit the rich, like deductions for “business entertainment” (you know, giving Wall Street money for hookers and such). And tax the churches already, maybe with a narrow exemption reserved for activities that are TRULY charitable. And let’s stop pouring government money into corporate endeavors that don’t create decent paying jobs, but instead destroy communities and the environment. And speaking of China, let’s stop giving tax subsidies and breaks to corporations that move their operations abroad. In fact, let’s stop giving subsidies to corporations altogether, what is this, Communism for the Rich?? Free market, m-f-, free market. Do you have any idea how much all THAT would save the taxpayers?

          Foreign aid accounts for a tiny, tiny sliver of the US budget. It’s a drop in the bucket. We spend millions of times more on making the rich richer on the backs of the working and middle classes. Funny how you conservatives never seem to get worked up about that.

          Also: Did you not read ANYTHING I said? Like what giving money to Cuba gets us, and what letting Cuba stick with Russia loses us? Is that not a factor for you at all? Gee, it sure makes me feel very safe and warm all over that people of your capacity for deep thought and strategizing run this country. Incidentally, how do you justify giving money to Saudi Arabia? Is it somehow a less dispicable regime in your eyes than Cuba’s? Say what you want about the Castros, at least the regime treats women much better than the Saudi does. Given that we comprise half of humanity, I think that’s pretty significant.

        • SteveD December 23rd, 2014 at 18:22

          The US government does not borrow back its own IOU’s to fund itself. As a Monetary Sovereign, the US “borrows” only to manage the Federal Funds Rate and to provide a safe haven for interest bearing assets. The debt to China has nothing to do with the budget deficit and everything to do with the trade deficit. The Chinese are net purchasers of our assets because every year we buy more goods and services from them than they buy from us. That leaves them with dollars that they do not want to spend yet. So, they invest them. Furthermore, if we wished to pay the debt back tomorrow, we could do so. But, China doesn’t want the dollars–they already had those–they want the interest-bearing assets (US Treasuries a/k/a “federal debt”).

          • Ian December 24th, 2014 at 15:30

            It is ironic that although most people think the national debt is a curse, the US is actually providing a service to entities that want to save money. If the US paid off the “debt” as it came due, and never issued Treasuries anymore, most people would think that that is a good thing. In reality, there would be so much fewer avenues for savers, that instead of being given interest, savers would be charged a fee for safekeeping.

    • edmeyer_able December 23rd, 2014 at 13:28

      If they did return her my question to you and christie is what should our reaction be when they request thousands be returned to Cuba?

      • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 14:11

        send ’em.nnnstart with the Canadian born Texas Senator and the little Cuban quacker in Florida.nnnthat should keep their general assembly busy for most of the rest of this century.

    • OldLefty December 23rd, 2014 at 13:34

      Like the Conservatives did for Pakistan and Saudi?

      • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 14:17

        ah hem …nnnI don’t think we’re allowed to talk about Saudi Arabia, offshore banks, US bank jets parked at Iranian airports or the funding of terrorist organizations through ‘unknown’ means.

    • granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 14:14

      brutal dictatorship?nnnbutt -your side claims Obama is a ‘brutal dictator’?nnnWTF?nnnif The Castro’s are as well liked by Cubans as Obama is Americans, then your description of ‘brutal dictatorship’ is wayout.

    • edmeyer_able December 23rd, 2014 at 14:23

      Apparently jerb bush doesn’t share your views on Cuba since he was paid a million a year for 6 years by a bank that was fined 300 million for doing business with them.n

    • Stevojax December 23rd, 2014 at 17:17

      Of course before Castro there were no elections and Cuba was run by a dictator and there was no free press, So why is the US government most concerned about freedom today?

  7. granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 13:55

    will be a big money maker/winner for tourist and sports fisher people alike. Not to mention the possible ruins of a city of fabled Atlantis off the northwest coastline. – oh, and for the smokers, when’s the last time you enjoyed a for real Cuban cigar with the mild hemp like high with a Marti on the rocks [not including out of country trips].

    Largest Carcharodon carcharias on record was in Havana Harbor.

    • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 13:59

      Cuban cigars are easy enough to come by anywhere outside the US.
      (Not that I would ever buy anything made in Cuba while abroad. I mean never. That would be wrong. And illegal. I’ve never ever done that. When I lived in France, I dutifully checked the labels on everything I bought to make sure I’d never accidentally spend money on a product made in Cuba, JUST LIKE THE STATE DEPARTMENT TOLD ME before I went. I swear, I did all that. I’m just saying, theoretically you could buy Cuban cigars.)

  8. granpa.usthai December 23rd, 2014 at 14:55

    will be a big money maker/winner for tourist and sports fisher people alike. Not to mention the possible ruins of a city of fabled Atlantis off the northwest coastline. – oh, and for the smokers, when’s the last time you enjoyed a for real Cuban cigar with the mild hemp like high with a Marti on the rocks [not including out of country trips].

    Largest Carcharodon carcharias on record was in Havana Harbor.

    • AmusedAmused December 23rd, 2014 at 14:59

      Cuban cigars are easy enough to come by anywhere outside the US.
      (Not that I would ever buy anything made in Cuba while abroad. I mean never. That would be wrong. And illegal. I’ve never ever done that. When I lived in France, I dutifully checked the labels on everything I bought to make sure I’d never accidentally spend money on a product made in Cuba, JUST LIKE THE STATE DEPARTMENT TOLD ME before I went. I swear, I did all that. I’m just saying, theoretically you could buy Cuban cigars.)

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