Conservative Christian: Stopping Same-Sex Marriage Is ‘Worth Dying For’ (Video)

Posted by | July 19, 2014 09:43 | Filed under: News Behaving Badly Politics Top Stories


A Monroe County judge in Florida ruled on Thursday that two Key West bartenders and other gay couples must be allowed to marry. Of course, this means the world is coming to an end.

Monroe County Chief Circuit Judge Luis M. Garcia ordered the county clerk’s office to begin issuing marriage licenses to gay couples as early as Tuesday morning. In doing so, he sided with Aaron Huntsman and William Lee Jones, who argued that the ban on same-sex marriage in the Florida Constitution violated their rights under the U.S. Constitution, The Washington Post reported.

“The court is aware that the majority of voters oppose same-sex marriage, but it is our country’s proud history to protect the rights of the individual, the rights of the unpopular and rights of the powerless, even at the cost of offending the majority,” Garcia wrote in his decision.

Garcia’s order would allow same-sex couples from around the state to go to the Keys to get married.

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi is having none of that. Bondi quickly filed a notice of appeal on Thursday which put Garcia’s ruling on hold.

“With many similar cases pending throughout the entire country, finality on this constitutional issue must come from the U.S. Supreme Court,” Bondi said in a statement.

Conservative Christian groups  vowed to protect Florida’s definition of marriage as being between one man and one woman.

Huntsman and Jones, who met at a gay pride celebration and have been a couple for 11 years, said,  “I can’t believe it finally happened,” said Jones. “Love is love. It doesn’t matter if it’s a guy and woman or two women or two men. Love is love.”

It’s worth dying for:

Conservatives say they will do everything they can to make sure the answer remains a resounding “no,” and blasted Garcia’s ruling Thursday as another overreach by an activist judge.

Anthony Verdugo, executive director of the Christian Family Coalition of Florida, called the ruling a “corrupt decision,” and a “judicial lynching of nearly 8 million Florida voters” who voted to ban same-sex marriage in 2008.

John Stemberger, who led that 2008 campaign, said he would keep fighting.

“This is an issue worth dying for,” said Stemberger, president and general counsel of the Florida Family Policy Council in Orlando. “Every domestic partnership, every single civil union, every couple that cohabitates, these arrangements dilute and devalue marriage.”

Stemberger said he wasn’t “daunted” by Garcia’s ruling, nor was he surprised.

“The court was very hostile to our position,” he said. “This is a very sad day for Floridians. This is an entirely illegitimate process. The judge had no legal authority in this decision.”

(my bold)

Watch:

A Christian minister recently knelt down at  a strip-mall parking lot, outside a dollar store, beauty salon and pharmacy, then doused himself with gasoline and lit himself on fire. He spent his life preaching against racism and homophobia while promoting social justice.

What I’m saying is, no one is stopping Stemberger from making a dramatic statement.

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194 responses to Conservative Christian: Stopping Same-Sex Marriage Is ‘Worth Dying For’ (Video)

  1. Jake July 19th, 2014 at 10:00

    Then die why don’t you?

    • tiredoftea July 19th, 2014 at 16:28

      Gas is expensive.

      • I_B_ME July 20th, 2014 at 10:15

        rope is cheap. :-)

      • granpa.usthai July 20th, 2014 at 14:23

        you’re right. But you can usually pick up a pack of matches where they sell tobacco for free. Granted, it’d take a while longer, but enough matches over time will serve the same purpose!

    • granpa.usthai July 20th, 2014 at 14:21

      and ruin all the fun for the sadist, Jake? – WTF is your Sara streak?
      let him suffer until he comes out of the closet like a good little gal.

  2. Eric Trommater July 19th, 2014 at 10:01

    It is puzzling how, without a hint of irony, people can make the exact same arguments made against inter-racial marriage four decades ago with no acknowledgement of having been on the wrong side of history in every one of these cases. Why does anyone even listen to these people?

  3. Eric Trommater July 19th, 2014 at 10:01

    It is puzzling how, without a hint of irony, people can make the exact same arguments made against inter-racial marriage four decades ago with no acknowledgement of having been on the wrong side of history time and time again. Why does anyone even listen to these people?

  4. Jonas Grumby July 19th, 2014 at 10:05

    Then die.

  5. Jonas Grumby July 19th, 2014 at 10:05

    Then die.

  6. Tommy6860 July 19th, 2014 at 10:10

    Well, I’d like to see that vote put up again and I bet the result would be different this time around. In any case, people do not get to vote on one’s civil rights, the 14th Amendment is clear. Of course, let’s ask the wingers if we could put the 2nd Amendment up for a vote and see see how that works.

    • Hirightnow July 19th, 2014 at 11:01

      Naw, this is Florida.
      Down here, we gots us all sorts of old people who are against sex: homosexual sex, kinky sex, interracial sex…hell, they’d make sex before marriage illegal, if they could!
      (And they aint so sure about after, either…)

      • granpa.usthai July 20th, 2014 at 14:18

        know for a fact some of them ‘old’ people not only participated in their younger years, but sometimes touch themselves thinking about it!

    • Yeah way July 19th, 2014 at 13:11

      Bring it on, you anti-gunners would lose…big.

      Why not vote on Islam while you’re it?

      Personal biases aside, Americans will choose rights and freedoms every time.

      • tiredoftea July 19th, 2014 at 16:31

        Following Islam is protected by the 1st Amendment. And, the clowns ignorantly yammering “The court was very hostile to our position,” he said. “This is a very sad day for Floridians. This is an entirely illegitimate process. The judge had no legal authority in this decision.” is certainly no poster boy for your assertion.

        • Dwendt44 July 19th, 2014 at 17:56

          The Pagans defined marriage.

      • granpa.usthai July 20th, 2014 at 14:14

        not exactly, otherwise gay marriage would not have to be legally enforced.
        I’m not anti-guns, either
        support the entire 2nd amendment as written:
        you belong to a WELL REGULATED militia,
        I got no problem with you keeping and bearing arms.

  7. Tommy6860 July 19th, 2014 at 10:10

    Well, I’d like to see that vote put up again and I bet the result would be different this time around. In any case, people do not get to vote on one’s civil rights, the 14th Amendment is clear. Of course, let’s ask the wingers if we could put the 2nd Amendment up for a vote and see see how that works.

    • Hirightnow July 19th, 2014 at 11:01

      Naw, this is Florida.
      Down here, we gots us all sorts of old people who are against sex: homosexual sex, kinky sex, interracial sex…hell, they’d make sex before marriage illegal, if they could!
      (And they aint so sure about after, either…)

      • granpa.usthai July 20th, 2014 at 14:18

        know for a fact some of them ‘old’ people not only participated in their younger years, but sometimes touch themselves thinking about it!

    • Yeah way July 19th, 2014 at 13:11

      Bring it on, you anti-gunners would lose…big.

      Why not vote on Islam while you’re it?

      Personal biases aside, Americans will choose rights and freedoms every time.

      • tiredoftea July 19th, 2014 at 16:31

        Following Islam is protected by the 1st Amendment. And, the clowns ignorantly yammering “The court was very hostile to our position,” he said. “This is a very sad day for Floridians. This is an entirely illegitimate process. The judge had no legal authority in this decision.” is certainly no poster boy for your assertion.

        • Dwendt44 July 19th, 2014 at 17:56

          The Pagans defined marriage.

      • granpa.usthai July 20th, 2014 at 14:14

        not exactly, otherwise gay marriage would not have to be legally enforced.
        I’m not anti-guns, either
        support the entire 2nd amendment as written:
        you belong to a WELL REGULATED militia,
        I got no problem with you keeping and bearing arms.

  8. William July 19th, 2014 at 10:15

    Nobody ever won a war dying for his country (George Patton). Nobody ever changed someone’s relationship preferences by dying….but in this case..um please proceed.

  9. William July 19th, 2014 at 10:15

    Nobody ever won a war dying for his country (George Patton). Nobody ever changed someone’s relationship preferences by dying….but in this case..um please proceed.

  10. Pistol-Packing July 19th, 2014 at 10:47

    This is one of those issues I really dont get. Maybe because the way I was raised, and because I do have a member in my family who is gay. I get it that strict conservatives hate the term marriage when it comes to the LGBT community. But it is not a view that I share. One of the issues, that I wish we could all have a ruling on, that just ended this matter once and for all.

    I could not have been more proud to stand next to my sister this past summer as she was finally legally allowed to marry her partner of 18 years. Someone who is near and dear to me and I am proud to call her my family.

    • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:47

      They seem to think that they OWN the word “marriage”. They don’t. They need to get over the fact that they don’t get to be the boss of the world anymore.

      Here’s a short tutorial for the Traditional Bible Marriage crowd:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

      • granpa.usthai July 20th, 2014 at 14:07

        GAWD I love this devout woman!
        If I was her biblical ‘legal’ husband, I’d be having the most perverse unions possible – until I dropped over dead or got the first button on her blouse in my hand! OOOPS! – sometimes my reactions premature me -it were good though!
        worth crying for!

        • M D Reese July 20th, 2014 at 15:17

          Betty Bowers has several videos like this one that ‘splain all that manly buybull stuff.

  11. Pistol-Packing July 19th, 2014 at 10:47

    This is one of those issues I really dont get. Maybe because the way I was raised, and because I do have a member in my family who is gay. I get it that strict conservatives hate the term marriage when it comes to the LGBT community. But it is not a view that I share. One of the issues, that I wish we could all have a ruling on, that just ended this matter once and for all.

    I could not have been more proud to stand next to my sister this past summer as she was finally legally allowed to marry her partner of 18 years. Someone who is near and dear to me and I am proud to call her my family.

    • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:47

      They seem to think that they OWN the word “marriage”. They don’t. They need to get over the fact that they don’t get to be the boss of the world anymore.

      Here’s a short tutorial for the Traditional Bible Marriage crowd:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

      • granpa.usthai July 20th, 2014 at 14:07

        GAWD I love this devout woman!
        If I was her biblical ‘legal’ husband, I’d be having the most perverse unions possible – until I dropped over dead or got the first button on her blouse in my hand! OOOPS! – sometimes my reactions premature me -it were good though!
        worth crying for!

        • M D Reese July 20th, 2014 at 15:17

          Betty Bowers has several videos like this one that ‘splain all that manly buybull stuff.

  12. Shades July 19th, 2014 at 11:29

    Worth dying for, eh? Something tells me he’s not willing to demonstrate the procedure.

    • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:42

      These folks want the GAY people to die. That is what he means.

  13. Shades July 19th, 2014 at 11:29

    Worth dying for, eh? Something tells me he’s not willing to demonstrate the procedure.

    • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:42

      These folks want the GAY people to die. That is what he means.

  14. TommyNIK July 19th, 2014 at 11:40

    So….what are you waiting for? Take a cue from the Buddhist monks during the Viet Nam war. Self-immolation is a way to REALLY make your point.

    F***ING TWIT.

  15. TommyNIK July 19th, 2014 at 11:40

    So….what are you waiting for? Take a cue from the Buddhist monks during the Viet Nam war. Self-immolation is a way to REALLY make your point.

    F***ING TWIT.

  16. Roctuna July 19th, 2014 at 12:13

    “Every domestic partnership, every single civil union, every couple that cohabitates, these arrangements dilute and devalue marriage.” How? No one’s ever explained how.

    • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:40

      I can’t figure it out either. Do they lay in bed at night, unable to be intimate with their spouses because they just know that the gay couple next door is happy and well-adjusted?

      • Dave Lanson July 19th, 2014 at 16:46

        I’ve always wondered about how marriage equity somehow affects heterosexual marriage. No one has ever even attempted to explain that allegation.

        • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 17:04

          It’s because they got NUTHIN. A marriage license with the State is simply a contract between two adults with rights and responsibilities laid out in plain language. What people want to call a marriage within the realm of their supernatural beliefs is between them and the voices in their heads.

        • burqa July 21st, 2014 at 18:55

          Dave Lanson: “I’ve always wondered about how marriage equity somehow affects heterosexual marriage. No one has ever even attempted to explain that allegation.”

          Good point. I used to debate a guy online who made the same argument. My reply was to suggest he pay a retainer to a divorce lawyer because equality was coming and the ruination of his marriage was in the future, by his logic.

    • tiredoftea July 19th, 2014 at 16:34

      By minding other people’s business and demanding that others behave just the way they want the religious busybodies want them to. It’s a free country, you know, for them, not so much for anyone who disagrees with them.

  17. Roctuna July 19th, 2014 at 12:13

    “Every domestic partnership, every single civil union, every couple that cohabitates, these arrangements dilute and devalue marriage.” How? No one’s ever explained how.

    • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:40

      I can’t figure it out either. Do they lay in bed at night, unable to be intimate with their spouses because they just know that the gay couple next door is happy and well-adjusted?

      • Dave Lanson July 19th, 2014 at 16:46

        I’ve always wondered about how marriage equity somehow affects heterosexual marriage. No one has ever even attempted to explain that allegation.

        • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 17:04

          It’s because they got NUTHIN. A marriage license with the State is simply a contract between two adults with rights and responsibilities laid out in plain language. What people want to call a marriage within the realm of their supernatural beliefs is between them and the voices in their heads.

        • burqa July 21st, 2014 at 18:55

          Dave Lanson: “I’ve always wondered about how marriage equity somehow affects heterosexual marriage. No one has ever even attempted to explain that allegation.”

          Good point. I used to debate a guy online who made the same argument. My reply was to suggest he pay a retainer to a divorce lawyer because equality was coming and the ruination of his marriage was in the future, by his logic.

    • tiredoftea July 19th, 2014 at 16:34

      By minding other people’s business and demanding that others behave just the way they want the religious busybodies want them to. It’s a free country, you know, for them, not so much for anyone who disagrees with them.

  18. neworleans878 July 19th, 2014 at 12:20

    When my ex wife fell on hard times, our daughter took her in.

    When my ex wife was on her death bed, my daughter was at her bed side, taking care of her every need.

    Even though my “born again” ex kept telling my daughter she was going to hell with her partner.

    I ask you, Mr. Christian, who’s more Christian?

    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

    ― Mahatma Gandhi

    • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:39

      Well said, and worth saying. I’m a life-long atheist and I’ve lived a more “christian” life than these hypocrites.

      • neworleans878 July 19th, 2014 at 12:43

        Don’t beleive in Heaven or Hell, but if they do exist, there’s a very simple rule for getting into the former and avoiding the latter: The Golden Rule.

        Universal in all religions.

        Don’t believe for a minute that any God will exclude any one who follows it.

        • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:57

          My landlords are VERY religious and I think I may be the first atheist my landlady has talked to about belief vs non-belief. We have some good discussions. I told her basically the same thing–I’m not at all worried. I don’t lie, cheat or steal, and I treat other people with respect. In other words, the golden rule. And of course the main reason I’m not at all worried is because it’s all a bunch of man-made hooey.

          • Clyde Wolf July 21st, 2014 at 18:45

            The Golden Rule is not, however… Think about it.

            • M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 22:48

              Is not what? golden? a rule? I treat others with respect because it’s the right thing to do. Religious folks call that the “golden rule”–apparently it never occurred to them on their own.

              • Clyde Wolf July 25th, 2014 at 20:07

                That’s because the spirit lives in you and has forever. The Golden Rule is ingrained in our genetics because God, or a intelligent design, put it there…

          • burqa July 21st, 2014 at 18:53

            I’m sure you would not be bothered to have her tell you to your face in these discussions that your beliefs are a bunch of hooey after you said the same to her while respectfully practicing the golden rule.

        • Dwendt44 July 19th, 2014 at 14:39

          True enough. As it is, most religions lay claim to the ‘Golden Rule’, while ignoring that Confucius authored the basic tenant over 3000 years ago.

    • burqa July 21st, 2014 at 18:50

      The Gandhi quote employs the same lack of logic resorted to by those who seek to justify their own bigotry.
      Neworleans878, you follow the same illogic by attempting to go from the particular to the general.
      But you have an agenda and need to justify hate, so illogic is acceptable in that pursuit.

  19. nola878 July 19th, 2014 at 12:20

    When my ex wife fell on hard times, our daughter took her in.

    When my ex wife was on her death bed, my daughter was at her bed side, taking care of her every need.

    Even though my “born again” ex kept telling my daughter she was going to hell with her partner.

    I ask you, Mr. Christian, who’s more Christian?

    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

    ― Mahatma Gandhi

    • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:39

      Well said, and worth saying. I’m a life-long atheist and I’ve lived a more “christian” life than these hypocrites.

      • nola878 July 19th, 2014 at 12:43

        Don’t beleive in Heaven or Hell, but if they do exist, there’s a very simple rule for getting into the former and avoiding the latter: The Golden Rule.

        Universal in all religions.

        Don’t believe for a minute that any God will exclude any one who follows it.

        • M D Reese July 19th, 2014 at 12:57

          My landlords are VERY religious and I think I may be the first atheist my landlady has talked to about belief vs non-belief. We have some good discussions. I told her basically the same thing–I’m not at all worried. I don’t lie, cheat or steal, and I treat other people with respect. In other words, the golden rule. And of course the main reason I’m not at all worried is because it’s all a bunch of man-made hooey.

          • burqa July 21st, 2014 at 18:53

            I’m sure you would not be bothered to have her tell you to your face in these discussions that your beliefs are a bunch of hooey after you said the same to her while respectfully practicing the golden rule.

          • M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 22:48

            Is not what? golden? a rule? I treat others with respect because it’s the right thing to do. Religious folks call that the “golden rule”–apparently it never occurred to them on their own.

            • M D Reese July 27th, 2014 at 14:29

              Oh bull shit. Take your pretzel logic somewhere else, troll.

        • Dwendt44 July 19th, 2014 at 14:39

          True enough. As it is, most religions lay claim to the ‘Golden Rule’, while ignoring that Confucius authored the basic tenant over 3000 years ago.

    • burqa July 21st, 2014 at 18:50

      The Gandhi quote employs the same lack of logic resorted to by those who seek to justify their own bigotry.
      Neworleans878, you follow the same illogic by attempting to go from the particular to the general.
      But you have an agenda and need to justify hate, so illogic is acceptable in that pursuit.

  20. fahvel July 19th, 2014 at 12:25

    well then sternburger (between a warm bu) drop dead!!!!!

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