Clinton widens popular vote lead to 2.6M

Posted by | December 7, 2016 17:20 | Filed under: Politics

Hillary Clinton, who lost the Electoral College to President-elect Donald Trump in November, extended her popular vote lead over her former challenger Tuesday to a tally that is far larger than any other election in history where the candidate who lost the election won in the popular vote. As of Tuesday morning, Clinton leads Trump 65,467,571…

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By: Alan

Alan Colmes is the publisher of Liberaland.

57 responses to Clinton widens popular vote lead to 2.6M

  1. StoneyCurtisll December 7th, 2016 at 17:46

    Sadly, this doesn’t matter..
    Could be 3 million..
    Could be 4 million more votes…
    We are stuck with the worst possible thing…
    And we are going to have to deal with it….(it’s not going to be easy)

    • Larry Schmitt December 7th, 2016 at 17:57

      Even if, by some miracle, enough electors changed their votes to make a difference, the House would still vote for him.

      • StoneyCurtisll December 7th, 2016 at 18:09

        Exactly…:(

      • whatthe46 December 7th, 2016 at 18:15

        if the EC voted for Clinton, why would the house have a say?

        • Larry Schmitt December 7th, 2016 at 18:21

          Because that’s how the law is written. If they don’t vote with the state’s majority and it results in a different outcome, it goes to the House.

          • whatthe46 December 7th, 2016 at 18:23

            all the more reason for this audit and recount. there have been so many discrepancies it isn’t funny.

            • Bunya December 8th, 2016 at 14:25

              I think something fishy happened this last election cycle, too, but nobody’s bringing it up. Now, if HRC were the winner, we’d be having recount after recount after recount, until the SCOTUS “anoints” Trump the emperor of the U.S. In other words, if the GOP thinks its a “must” to win the election, they’ll pull the same crap they did in 2000 in Florida.

              • trees December 8th, 2016 at 20:56

                You know what happened?

                The American middle class came out in large numbers. It wasn’t close in IA, or OH, she lost FL, PA, MI, NC….

                Etc.., etc..

                You know what happens when you don’t win those important states?

                You lose the election.

                Nothing “fishy”.

                You want to know what’s amusing?

                People who think something “fishy” happened are busy trying to steal the election….

                Yeah, imagine that.

                “we need recounts, we need to audit the votes, we think voting fraud occurred…”

                lol….

                • Bunya December 9th, 2016 at 10:01

                  “People who think something ‘fishy’ happened are busy trying to steal the election….”
                  .
                  Case in point…Dubya.

          • whatthe46 December 7th, 2016 at 20:19

            then all the more reason the that damn EC is b.s. if they were put in place to have the last word to protect us from demagogues and denounce the asshat, and the house can ignore them, what’s the point? just go with the majority otherwise, why in the hell are we standing in line for 4 hrs or more to be heard only to be dismissed?

  2. trees December 7th, 2016 at 18:57

    I heard a great analogy describing the whole “popular vote” misconception.

    Clinton supporters citing the popular vote as being the yardstick of measurement is similar to a football fan citing yards gained as being the determinant factor in a football game….

    Sorry, but in football the only thing that matters is the final score.

    In an election where the goal is to win the electorate, by way of the electoral college….

    The electoral score is the only one that matters.

    Winning the right votes, in the right states, is the strategy that was employed.

    “but she won a million more votes in California and a million more votes in NY!!!”

    Yes, and she was awarded the electoral votes of those states. In California she was awarded a huge number, 55 electoral votes, and in NY, 31. That’s 86 of the 270 needed.

    But other states have a say in who we elect.

    She didn’t win….

    OH, PA, MI, FL, WI, NC…

    I think you’re all beginning to get the picture by now.

    If you can’t understand this, well, you’re simply unable to understand simple things

    • bpollen December 7th, 2016 at 20:07

      Your analogy sucks.

      To make it more accurate, Hillary scored more points, but the judges gave it to Trump anyway.

      And no matter how many times you try to discount it, minimize it, deride it, explain it away – the fact still remains that MORE people voted for Hillary.

    • Red Mann December 7th, 2016 at 21:19

      No, jackass, this was a perversion of the electoral process, a perversion of democracy itself. Trump “won” on a mixture of blatant lies from him and about Clinton, voter suppression, butthurt Bernie fans and foreign interference on a massive level. His picks for various position are the worst possible choice that could be made. An anti-public, pro-religious education activist who has been trying to destroy public education, who said that the purpose of education is to advance the kingdom of god for Dept of Education. An anti regulation, science denier running the EPA. Several fascist leaning rouge generals in important positions. Ben, Joseph built the pyramids for grain, Carson for HUD. If this was handed to a Hollywood producer as a story line, it would be laughed out the door. We are well and truly f*cked thanks to disinformed fools who voted, once again, against their own best interests, fools like you.

      • trees December 7th, 2016 at 21:54

        Trump is your President. You don’t have to like it, but you will have to accept it. You liberals have only yourselves to blame.

        • Red Mann December 7th, 2016 at 22:12

          Trump may have been, by some cruel fluke, elected to the office of President of the United States, but he is not yet anyone’s president, and he will never be my president. He has no qualifications, no he has negative qualifications, for the most important job in the country. A job that has serious impacts on the entire world and he has already besmirched to office and things will get worse. I can never call this abomination “my president”. Yes, too many on the left didn’t vote for Clinton because they had their panties in a bunch and even more were too f*cking lazy to vote, but that doesn’t alleviate all of the underhanded, unethical, immoral behavior of Trump and his deplorable followers.
          Since I am no longer in the military, he is not commander in chief and I can’t respect him as my President.

  3. Obewon December 7th, 2016 at 21:17

    58.8% of U.S. voters cast a mere 46% ballots for dimmest repub Donnie. They’re worried!

    December 19th Electors vote. (R-OH) Kasich is the EC buzz. But that’d leave the house with just 3 choices: 1st place HRC. 2nd place Donnie. Or (R-nothing) Gary Johnson.

    • trees December 7th, 2016 at 21:51

      I know, I know, you still can’t believe she got clobbered….

      More people, in the States that mattered, voted for Trump.

      • whatthe46 December 7th, 2016 at 21:53

        you suck at math. i’m gonna call you methamatician.

        • trees December 7th, 2016 at 21:57

          Here’s a math problem for you…

          Which number is greater….

          A) 232

          B) 306

          • whatthe46 December 7th, 2016 at 22:04

            tRump’s loss is the worse since the 1876 presidential election. Clinton kicked his ass, by now with nearly 3 mil votes (which is greater?). that’s called clobbered. furthermore, the electoral votes you are referring to, isn’t a land slide either. and there are recounts that are still going on with petition to audit. yeah, you’re not good at anything. and he’s NOT the president, Obama is and tRump still isn’t a sure win to the WH.

            • trees December 7th, 2016 at 22:28

              You need to get out more often….

              Read.

              DETROIT – A federal judge who ordered Michigan to begin its recount effectively ended it on Wednesday, tying his decision to a state court ruling that found Green Party candidate Jill Stein had no legal standing to request another look at ballots.

              The ruling seals Republican Donald Trump’s narrow victory over Democrat Hillary Clinton for Michigan’s 16 electoral votes.

              U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith agreed with Republicans who argued that the three-day recount must end a day after the state appeals court dealt a blow to the effort. The court said Stein, who finished fourth in Michigan on Nov. 8, didn’t have a chance of winning even after a recount and therefore isn’t an “aggrieved” candidate.

              “Because there is no basis for this court to ignore the Michigan court’s ruling and make an independent judgment regarding what the Michigan Legislature intended by the term ‘aggrieved,’ plaintiffs have not shown an entitlement to a recount,” Goldsmith said.

              It was the judge’s midnight ruling Monday that started the recount in Michigan. But Goldsmith’s order dealt with timing — not whether a recount was appropriate. More than 20 of 83 counties already were counting ballots again. They reported minor changes in vote totals, although many precincts couldn’t be examined for a second time for a variety of reasons.

              Earlier Wednesday, the Michigan elections board voted, 3-1, to end the recount if Goldsmith extinguished his earlier order.

              State Republican Party Chairman Ronna Romney McDaniel and Attorney General Bill Schuette said it’s a victory for voters and taxpayers. Stein now is left with asking the Michigan Supreme Court to intervene, which is a long shot.

              “Jill Stein, who received only 1.07% of the vote in Michigan, is not legally entitled to hijack the will of voters and drag them into an arduous and expensive publicity stunt,” McDaniel said.

              Stein got about 1 percent of the vote in three states where she’s pushed for recounts — Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump narrowly won all three.

              She insists she’s more concerned about the accuracy of the election, but Goldsmith said Stein’s legal team presented only “speculative claims” about vulnerable machines, “not actual injury.”

              The judge said a recount to test the integrity of the voting system “has never been endorsed by any court.”

              A court hearing will be held Friday on a possible recount in Pennsylvania. Wisconsin’s recount, which started last week, has increased Trump’s margin of victory over Clinton thus far.

              Clinton needed all three states to flip in order to take enough electoral votes to win the election. Trump has 306 electoral votes to Clinton’s 232; 270 are needed to win. Michigan has 16 electoral votes, Pennsylvania has 20 and Wisconsin has 10. Electors convene Dec. 19 across the country to vote for president.

            • trees December 7th, 2016 at 22:31

              http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/michigan-recount-now-doubt-pennsylvania-sets-hearing-44027368

              • whatthe46 December 7th, 2016 at 23:31

                tRump got his ass kicked period. and by a girl. i don’t need to read your links to know he was the least popular candidate in the history. that’s a fact. Hillary received more votes than any other president in history. fact. your racist-in-chief didn’t win.

              • StoneyCurtisll December 8th, 2016 at 00:26

                Trees is just like Po-Jama People…
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0T7QzuiYtI
                Po Jama people make me feel like I am wasting my time..
                Mother Mary and Joseph, I wish they would all go away…

          • Hirightnow December 8th, 2016 at 00:01

            Seeing as how, at the present, they’re both indeterminate numbers, nobody could say with certainty.

          • whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 00:06

            how’s carrier looking? you all bought into his bullshit and out right lies, and now the union guy who stood up and called tRump out for his lying is getting death threats by your racist and ignorant ilk.
            https://twitter.com/PaladinCornelia/status/806719502666731521

            • Deplorable Ratso December 8th, 2016 at 10:39

              Trump saved 800 more Carrier jobs than Obama did

              • oldfart December 8th, 2016 at 10:56

                And it only took 7 million dollars to enable you to say that.
                I hope you work for Carrier, live in Indiana and STILL lost your job..
                The only thing tRump DID do was take the credit.
                He certainly will deserve it alright.
                Moran.

              • William December 8th, 2016 at 11:21

                Eight hundred jobs you say? Gee that’s impressive. If Cheeto-Hitler saves 1000 jobs a week for the next thirty years he will pass the number of jobs saved by President Obama IE General motors. Thanks again for trolling. Now repeat after me. “The longest period of private sector job growth in the history of the USA”. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ba3240c5f57483708ef74319d1122f6847d19bd6fdccd4d2c3928858183583a2.jpg

              • whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 16:46

                no he didn’t you ass. Obama saved millions of jobs and created millions more and still to this day. 300 employees were not going to be laid off, he save a little more than 300 and the Huntington plant is still closing while 1400 jobs are going to Mexico. aside from that he gave them 7 million dollars of which the tax payers are on the hook for, meaning increased taxes. furthermore, you notice that tRump buys his steel from China instead of American steel and he outsources jobs to 6 + different countries, that he will NOT bring to Americans. damn you people are stupid. by the way, don’t go around assaulting people. you and your racist ilk are violent and should all be deported.

          • whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 00:23

            here’s some more on your crooked racist-in-chief.
            https://twitter.com/JohnFugelsang/status/806718721754624000

          • whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 00:40

            you people not only hate POC you also hate each other. love it that you eat your own.
            https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/806722739151179776

      • Obewon December 7th, 2016 at 22:08

        “They’re worried!”<-E.g. You.

        I've already lived through several 16 year cycles where repubs nominated and then elected the then "dimmest repub". You'll be bang'n Bible's again. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/111168cb94ec2de1f70db54906bc7e1cccf56a7a0de5a5ca8f48d068d0a857dc.jpg

      • Red Mann December 7th, 2016 at 22:14

        She didn’t get “clobbered”. Trump had a very narrow win in EC votes, but lost the popular vote by a huge margin.

        • trees December 7th, 2016 at 23:03

          In 13 swing states that played an oversized role in electing the next president, however, Trump has maintained a healthy lead.

          She got clobbered.

          • spacegod December 7th, 2016 at 23:40

            Except that she didn’t.

            • whatthe46 December 7th, 2016 at 23:48

              he knows numbers. he’s a methamatician. the damn fool.

              • Hirightnow December 7th, 2016 at 23:48

                That’s what they call someone who smokes so much meth that their mind is gone, right?

          • arc99 December 7th, 2016 at 23:53

            In the alternate universe inhabited by truth challenged right wingers, perhaps she did get “clobbered”

            In the real world inhabited by liberals where facts define opinions, not spin and hypocrisy, 65million is greater than 62million.

            I do not need arrogant, condescending lectures on American civics from you or anyone else, especially a Trump apologist. I understand quite well what the Electoral College is.

            Despite the idiocy of the Trump team talking about mandates or what the “American people” want, the majority of the American electorate did not want Donald J Trump as President of the United States. That is the point of tracking the popular vote.

            If you are unable to understand that, then clearly it is you who is incapable of understanding simple things. But you go right ahead trolling leftist forums, talking down to people. We liberals understand that right wingers cannot help themselves. You come to this forum, criticizing the publisher and the participants in a manner that is simply not tolerated on right wing boards. All it does is confirm my ever sinking opinion of people on the conservative side of the spectrum.

            Corey Lewandowski comes up with the incredible pile of bullsh*t that the President elect has accomplished in just a few weeks, more than President Obama has in 4 years. But your priority is to criticize liberals for pointing out a FACT. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/94a4b1035bd02cd3056c04d8069c6729bdcf3cd41c0b070c779b28066fd3401e.jpg

            • trees December 8th, 2016 at 01:36

              Yes, yes, I know….

              You guys kicked ass in this last election.

              You now control the Senate, won back a large portion of Congress, and won the office of the President.

              Oh, wait…

              That’s not what happened.

              Elections have consequences.

              Remember?

              • arc99 December 8th, 2016 at 10:16

                Elections do have consequences.

                One of those consequences is that right wing trolls posting condescending bullsh*t show up here..

                As I said, go right ahead with your condescension and sarcasm. All it does is demonstrate that absolute intellectual bankruptcy of a large segment of right wing America. Apparently, including you.

                • trees December 8th, 2016 at 13:56

                  One of those consequences is that right wing trolls posting condescending bullsh*t show up here..

                  I know, right? I guess it’s only kewl when you and the other lefty’s do it.

      • StoneyCurtisll December 7th, 2016 at 23:15

        http://www.curezone.org/upload/_A_Forums/Ask/troll_6.jpg
        Get a life loser…

  4. Deplorable Ratso December 8th, 2016 at 10:42

    Muh popular vote

  5. StoneyCurtisll December 8th, 2016 at 10:46

    Trump gets the band back together for the, ‘One More Time Tour’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAQnXnQQCCI

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