Black unarmed Miami man shot by police while on ground with hands up

Posted by | July 21, 2016 14:35 | Filed under: News Behaving Badly


Charles Kinsey was shot while lying on the ground with his hands up.

“All he has is a toy truck,” the man shouts. “I am a behavior therapist at a group home.”

Charles Kinsey said the footage, released by his attorney, shows the moment Monday when he tried to convince North Miami police not to harm his patient, a 23-year-old with autism who was sitting on the ground beside him.

“I was more worried about him than myself,” Kinsey told CNN affiliate WSVN-TV in Miami.

“As long as I’ve got my hands up, they’re not gonna shoot me, that’s what I’m thinking,” Kinsey said. “Wow, was I wrong.”

Now Kinsey is hospitalized with a gunshot wound.

 

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46 responses to Black unarmed Miami man shot by police while on ground with hands up

  1. jybarz July 21st, 2016 at 15:44

    Fckg unbelievable!

    No wonder many have just had enough of the police callous shooting of unarmed and harmless black men with hands up in the air.

  2. labman57 July 21st, 2016 at 16:07

    Cop shoots unarmed black man for no apparent reason.

    Well, this is Florida. Home of ‘Stand Your Ground’, a corrupt AG, and a morally-bankrupt governor.
    Don’t expect any punitive action to be taken against the police officer.

  3. amersham1046 July 21st, 2016 at 16:34

    Self defense , the suspect may of had a gun at home

  4. dewired4u July 21st, 2016 at 16:39

    The guy ask the cop why he shot him and the cop said……..I don’t know……WTF?

    • Gina Bousquet July 21st, 2016 at 16:53

      Apparently skin color is enough to make the man a target. What kind of police training is that now?

      • Robert M. Snyder July 21st, 2016 at 20:58

        “The officer involved in the shooting, a 30-year-old Hispanic male, has not yet been named.”

        “Kinsey’s attorney, Hilton Napoleon, told the Miami Herald he is in settlement talks with the city.

        In an interview with WTVJ-TV, Napoleon said he thinks the shooting was accidental, because his client was shot in the leg. He said if the officer thought Kinsey was a threat, he would’ve been shot in the head or chest.

        He also said he thinks police may have been on edge after recent ambush attacks on officers in Dallas and Baton Rouge.

        http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/charles-kinsey-shot-by-north-miami-police-shooting-video-photos-therapist-facebook-wife/

        • whatthe46 July 21st, 2016 at 21:08

          f*ck you and your excuses.

        • Gina Bousquet July 21st, 2016 at 21:15

          Accidental again? Involving a trained officer?

          • whatthe46 July 21st, 2016 at 21:22

            accidentally on purpose is what he meant.

            • Gina Bousquet July 21st, 2016 at 21:27

              I’d think so too.

          • Robert M. Snyder July 21st, 2016 at 21:35

            Exactly what do YOU think motivated the shooting? If it wasn’t an accident, then are you suggesting that an Hispanic officer shot a black citizen because of skin color?

            • whatthe46 July 21st, 2016 at 21:45

              “The officer who fired his weapon was not identified, but was placed on administrative leave amid an investigation.”

              not that him being hispanic matters, or make the intentional shooting better, prove it.

            • Gina Bousquet July 21st, 2016 at 21:57

              I can hardly believe he would be that clumsy, Hispanic or not. It was definitely not a situation to put the finger on the trigger.

              • whatthe46 July 21st, 2016 at 22:00

                one, he’s not that clumsy. 2, if he is, and they decide to keep him on the force, more hell would break lose. 3, if they keep him, the bastard better keep one bullet in his pocket and his chamber empty. all while be the janitor with a badge on police grounds.

            • whatthe46 July 21st, 2016 at 21:58

              • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 00:45

                Have you ever stopped to consider the fact that gender disparity is far greater than racial disparity? The vast majority of shooting victims and the vast majority of prison inmates are male. In fact white males are incarcerated at a higher rate than black females. Is that because the justice system is sexist, or because white men actually commit more crime than black females?

                • whatthe46 July 22nd, 2016 at 01:25

                  wrong, wrong and way wrong. and shut your face.

                  • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 01:44

                    Those are the facts on race and gender, according to the US Department of Justice. I can provide links if you wish. Or you can just ignore the facts and live in a fantasy world.

            • Gina Bousquet July 21st, 2016 at 22:11

              Ha! North Miami Police said officer opened fire after attempting to negotiate. Negotiate?? Do we see grounds for that in the video? Nope. Officer not fit for the Force–nervous fingers on the trigger.

              • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 00:50

                First you said “Apparently skin color is enough to make the man a target.”

                Then I pointed out that the officer was Hispanic.

                Then you said “Officer not fit for the Force–nervous fingers on the trigger.”

                Why the change? Can’t Hispanics be racist? Can’t whites have nervous fingers?

                It seems to me that YOU are the one whose thinking is affected by skin color.

                • Gina Bousquet July 22nd, 2016 at 01:06

                  You don’t say! So it’s News for you that skin color makes men a target in this country. Where have you been lately? Obviously the officer in question responded nervously and incorrectly to the situation. I have a problem with skin color? I’m the Latin widow of a black man. This exchange is over.

                  • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 01:49

                    “This exchange is over.”

                    Because you lack the courage to deal with your own racism. It was YOU who jumped to the conclusion that THIS officer’s actions were motivated by racism, because YOU assumed that he was white.

                    It’s called “prejudice”. It happens when you pre-judge someone based upon assumptions about their race or ethnicity. You think all white cops are racist. Your statement revealed prejudice on your part. If you can’t see that, then you don’t understand the meaning of the word prejudice.

                    • whatthe46 July 22nd, 2016 at 02:05

                      it wouldn’t be nice of me to call 9/11 if i went to the theatre and just because i saw a white guy that adjusted his jacket and claimed i think this is going to be another aurora huh? he’s a suspicious looking white male, in his 20’s. you would have a problem with that wouldn’t you? that would be me prejudging someone based on the actions of someone else, simply because they are both white. but cops do that crap everyday and to minorities and they are executed. luckily in this case, this man will be alive to recover from the physical injuries, but not so much the mental and emotional and mental injuries he will forever have because of this and the trust of cops, not like they were great before, in now null and void. and you can’t blame him or any other black man for that matter for harboring those feelings. furthermore, not only is it great that he wasn’t murdered, he will at least be able to live life free of financial worries. WE KNOW HE’S A “COP” AND IT WAS A “COP” THAT SHOT HIM! and his reason, he won’t speak it out loud. because you’re a black man that’s why. but just as stupid is what he did speak out loud, “I don’t know why.” WTF?

                    • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 02:23

                      The cop obviously screwed up. Maybe he over-reacted. Maybe he’s better suited to a permanent desk job. And maybe, just maybe, his actions did have something to do with skin color. I’m sure there are many Hispanics who harbor ill feelings toward blacks. Racial/ethnic conflicts happen in prisons and among street gangs all the time.

                      But nobody should pre-judge this cop’s motives. If he had uttered a racial epithet, then it would be reasonable to conclude that race had something to do with it. But I haven’t seen any reports of that.

                      If the cop had been black, would you make the same assumptions about his motives? If your assumptions would be different for white, Hispanic, Asian, and black cops, then YOU are exhibiting exactly the type of racial bias that you are accusing the cop of having.

                      Making assumptions about whites, Asians, or Hispanics based upon race is racial profiling. If you don’t like racial profiling, then stop doing it.

                    • whatthe46 July 22nd, 2016 at 02:38

                      over reacted, over reacted, over reacted. no, i think he acted exactly the way he wanted to. a man with his hands up while on the ground, and he shot him. there was no situation he was involved in that warranted this man to be harmed period. the fact that you continue to provide pathetic excuses, makes you sick, twisted and extremely disgusting. fk off.

                    • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 03:11

                      You are not qualified to sit on an American jury. In America, a person is innocent until proven guilty, regardless of his or her race or ethnicity. If you believed in that principle, then you would not jump to conclusions about this cop’s motives, or any other person’s motives. That is not me making pathetic excuses. That is what the law requires of every juror.

                      Every defendant is entitled to a presumption of innocence. If I were on a jury, I would strive to put race and ethnicity aside and reach a decision based upon the facts alone. That’s what every juror is expected to do. If you are not capable of doing that, then YOU are the one with the problem.

                      I’m proud of my values, because I truly believe in equality. I strive to treat everyone equally in all of my interactions with people. I do not pre-judge people based upon their race, ethnicity, or gender. Can you honestly say the same?

                    • bpollen July 22nd, 2016 at 02:54

                      Unmitigated bullshit. In YOUR head, saying he is Hispanic absolves him of racism. But not in the real world. Statistically, police shoot blacks disproportionately, and that is true regardless of the race of the officer. So that assumption of yours that race of officer determines if racism was a motivating factor is either a very ignorant conclusion, or dishonesty.

                      Then, like racists usually do, you try to blame OTHERS for your ingrained racism. Jeez… we already have David Duke to tell us how race works, what the hell do we need with you?

                    • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 03:27

                      “In YOUR head, saying he is Hispanic absolves him of racism.”

                      I didn’t say that. I just pointed out that Gina changed her story after she learned that he was Hispanic. Apparently SHE is the one who thinks that his being Hispanic absolves him.

                      You really need to slow down and read other people’s comments more carefully. I was actually arguing AGAINST the idea that the race of the officer allows you to make any conclusions about his motives.

                      You seem to have a hair-trigger response. You see my name, you think “conservative!”, and then you go on a rant without reading what I have actually written.

                      Seriously, go back and read my previous comment that you responded to. You responded to what you THOUGHT I said, but that’s not what I ACTUALLY said.

                    • bpollen July 22nd, 2016 at 03:47

                      Sure…

                      “Because you lack the courage to deal with your own racism.”

                      You just fell off your high horse and landed on your ample ass.

                      You make that assumption that she is racist, based on the fact that she said BOTH “unfit” and “racist.” That is called projection, Bobby. Because a racist IS unfit to protect the public. Ergo, there is no reason to assume that YOUR saying he’s Hispanic provoked her to “change” her response. One, statements are not automatically unrelated because they are slightly separated in time. Nor are the automatically contradictory just because they do not express the exact same sentiment. For instance, you can be a racist AND a projectionist, and they aren’t mutually exclusive. See how that works?

                      I read what you actually said. I also saw the implicit bias in your “he’s Hispanic” response to a charge of racism. Since, even by your own admission, race isn’t a factor, why the hell did you feel the need to bring up the ethnicity of the cop? Obviously, YOU felt that was significant, and are so enamored of your whitewashed worldview that you think even mentioning it stops the charge of racism in it’s tracks.

                      Seriously, go back and read your OWN previous posts. YOU brought up the ethnicity of the cop. Nobody else did. You assumed that Gina would have to change her perception simply because you brought up the ethnicity of the cop. You blasted charges of racism based on your assumption that you can’t think a Hispanic could be racist. You got yourself so far up your own… shtick, that you fail to see that YOU found race to be very significant… as I see coming from the people who say “Why is it only white people can be racist.”

                      Plus, I have read your previous passive-aggressive racist posts before. It’s not like this is the only instance where you show your Whitesplainin’ Union card.

                    • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 04:37

                      “I read what you actually said. I also saw the implicit bias in your “he’s Hispanic” response”

                      And yet you see no implicit bias in Gina’s statement that “Apparently skin color is enough to make the man a target”?

                    • bpollen July 22nd, 2016 at 06:18

                      You should leave your bubble occasionally. I see no implicit bias in acknowledging what statistics prove.
                      .
                      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/87d9567c9123f645feed9dfa69f040519b3cb6df8ed6e84df169dff2f8416bf4.png

                    • Gina Bousquet July 22nd, 2016 at 12:41

                      Fck you a$$hole!

                    • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 12:58

                      Classy response.

                      You feel it is your privilege to accuse other people of racism when nobody knows the relevant facts. Yet you bristle when someone suggests that your own comments might reveal a racial bias.

                      People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. If you’re going to dish out accusations of bias, then you shouldn’t be surprised when people look for bias in your comments.

                      Time to put on your big girl panties and start owning it.

                    • Gina Bousquet July 22nd, 2016 at 13:07

                      Have a look at the chart bpollen posted and see if you recognize truth you moron.

                    • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 14:25

                      Statistics reveal trends across a large group of people. It is not valid to apply the statistics to a specific individual. There are statistics showing that Latinos, as a group, are less supportive of abortion rights than blacks. Do those statistics allow me to conclude that you are less supportive than your black friends? Of course not.

                      You can’t use a GROUP statistic to draw conclusions about a SPECIFIC individual. You can’t use statistics about cops as a GROUP to draw conclusions about a SPECIFIC cop. And if you think it is okay to judge people because of their group, then you should have no objection to racial profiling.

                      You shouldn’t call someone a moron when YOU are the one who is misusing the data.

                    • Gina Bousquet July 22nd, 2016 at 14:42

                      I stand by both assertions I made– black men are being targeted, statistics corroborate it; the cop in question is a bad cop who after shooting the therapist lying down with his hands up handcuffed him, despite the excuse now that he was protecting him from the patient. Sad story of idiocy endangering two citizens. End of our exchanges, you’re like a sick right wing harasser

                    • Robert M. Snyder July 22nd, 2016 at 15:07

                      I do not disagree with the assertions you just stated. This conversation started when I challenged your assertion that the cop’s actions were due to the victim’s skin color. When you post your opinions in a public forum, and someone challenges them, that is not harassment. That is debate.

                      I hope that the police officer is immediately put on leave and the case thoroughly investigated. If the officer’s actions WERE due to racial bias, then by all means he should suffer the consequences. If his actions were only due to incompetence, and not bias, then he needs to be assigned to a desk job or just fired. If I were his boss, I can’t imagine ever letting him carry a weapon again.

                      Regardless of what caused the officer to shoot, I think the innocent victim deserves to be well compensated for the trauma that he is going through.

                • Gina Bousquet July 22nd, 2016 at 17:35

                  You established a non existent causality and from then on reasoned based on that false assumption. I did not affirm the officer is nervous and obviously unprepared Because you said he is Hispanic. Wrong inference, I mean both that black men are targets AND that he’s a stupid Hispanic officer.

            • whatthe46 July 22nd, 2016 at 17:49

              Damn that’s asinine

    • whatthe46 July 21st, 2016 at 16:59

      Which is exactly why he should have FIRED and arrested. This man will be able to retire now if he wants. Its like this pig was wanting to get in on the action of shooting unarmed black male’s. And I think he a public health risk. “I don’t know” my ass.

    • Gina Bousquet July 22nd, 2016 at 01:12

      Now the police chief says the idiot was aiming at the autistic patient holding a toy who btw had been identified by the therapist.

      • whatthe46 July 22nd, 2016 at 02:39

        look, they are trying to come up with some excuse and no one is buying it. well, unless you’re the robert idiot posting here.

        • Gina Bousquet July 22nd, 2016 at 12:55

          The idiot posting here can’t accept I made more than one true statement about the fact– black men are targets and this cop is unfit to work in the streets.

  5. crc3 July 21st, 2016 at 21:12

    Cop THOUGHT the autistic kid was going to harm the therapist so he shot and missed hitting the therapist instead. Sounds like a shoot first ask questions later “mistake” (rolls eyes)…

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/07/21/pba-officers-shot-went-astray-in-attempt-to-protect-black-caregiver/

    • whatthe46 July 21st, 2016 at 21:22

      nah, he just didn’t want to be left behind not getting in a shot at some black guy. plus, the bonus, paid vacation.

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