CIA waterboarded wrong man 83 times in one month
The allegations against Abu Zubaydeh turned out not to be true.
In 2009, the U.S. government quietly withdrew its many allegations against Zubaydah. That didn’t stop the CIA from torturing him for years. Rebecca Gordon of The Nation writes about Zubaydeh, who was the first post-9/11 prisoner to be waterboarded and used prominently by the Bush Administration to justify enhanced interrogation programs. Despite the U.S. government changing its mind about charging Zubaydah as a central figure in al-Qaeda’s attack on America, he still remains, as far as we know, in solitary detention in Guantanamo,
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Gina Bousquet April 25th, 2016 at 20:07
And how is such a thing qualified by progressives?
Buford2k11 April 25th, 2016 at 22:36
it’s not…
Gina Bousquet April 25th, 2016 at 22:57
Shouldn’t it be…?
bpollen April 26th, 2016 at 04:42
A lot of people are appalled that such a cruel and ineffective tactic supposedly in our name. And that is one of the reasons that the Republicans try to pretend that Bush never existed.
clemans April 26th, 2016 at 08:43
sometimes I think about how difficult the chances are that a sperm will get to an egg and become an eventual fetus and then be born and turn into a living child, survive childhood and become an adult…..so many eggs and sperm don’t….nature makes a lot of mistakes…..bush was just one of them.
bpollen April 26th, 2016 at 15:02
Bush – Nature’s cock-up… :)
clemans April 26th, 2016 at 15:11
well, that and all of the drugs and decades of alcohol abuse.
Gina Bousquet April 26th, 2016 at 15:16
It’s appalling really, and it would seem with no solution in sight for this man and perhaps others in that situation…
Buford2k11 April 25th, 2016 at 22:36
yeah, they didn’t get the right guy…wasn’t Hannity slated for a waterboarding session? this guy paid Hannity’s debt…
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Roctuna April 26th, 2016 at 07:54
I’m not sure which is worse. 7 years of solitary confinement or 83 “enhanced interrogations”. Either way it’s certain he’s not the same person he was going in.
clemans April 26th, 2016 at 08:38
either way, it is torture
and, it is anti-American
starskeptic April 26th, 2016 at 09:12
On the other hand, it is also quintessentially American…
clemans April 26th, 2016 at 09:31
I think we are both right, the Constitution defines us, says what are values are and what we are willing to defend…..it is as near to perfection as the framers were able to get….which is why they made provisions for amendments.
What you are referring to is to the times, the great many times, when we choose not to live up to the values set for us. What you suggest might be the actually who we are in the real world…..sad that
StoneyCurtisll April 26th, 2016 at 11:22
I wonder what they got out of him the 83rd time they waterboarded him that the first 82 missed?
Mensa Member April 26th, 2016 at 15:32
It does seem more like sadism than investigation, doesn’t it?
Gina Bousquet April 26th, 2016 at 16:37
Precisely.
StoneyCurtisll April 26th, 2016 at 21:36
Indeed.
StoneyCurtisll April 26th, 2016 at 12:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-F6r5TxKrk
Bunya April 26th, 2016 at 13:33
I’ve never forgiven Obama for giving Dubya and the Dickster a pass on this. The only consolation I have is that these clowns can’t leave the U.S. for fear of arrest in one of the more intelligent countries.
Mensa Member April 26th, 2016 at 15:31
I suppose Obama is partly to blame but it’s not like Obama pardoned them.
There are a number of agencies, domestic and foreign, which could have indicted Bush and Cheney for war crimes. And, of course, the Senate could have investigated this rogue bunch.
Sam April 26th, 2016 at 16:05
Obama was trying to bring the country together.
At least Obama took a stand and banned torture even if he could not get Bush or DickC prosecuted for it.
Mensa Member April 26th, 2016 at 16:18
>> At least Obama took a stand and banned torture even if he could not get Bush or DickC prosecuted for it.
I don’t give Obama a complete pass but the president isn’t America’s prosecutor.
The president can give pardons but Obama didn’t do that. I do blame Gerald Ford for pardoning in Nixon. I think that set a horrible precedent.
That being said, Obama could have pressured others to investigate.
But how many Benghazi investigations has there been?
Surely, the House could have investigated this.
Sam April 26th, 2016 at 16:28
Several committees have all but said bush is a war criminal.
He and Cheney should be in a cell
Nixon was no threat to anyone,he was muted and he stepped down on his own in disgrace over a failed attempt to spy on the campaign Plus Nixon was unaware of until it happen.
His crime was trying to cover it up once he knew.
Nixon was better on laugh-in than Bush was in the oval office
Bunya April 26th, 2016 at 16:22
I understand that, but it just sweeps the problem under the rug. It’s great that Obama banned torture (although it was already banned under the Geneva convention), but it sends a pretty blatant message, don’t you think? “Sure, start unnecessary wars, torture detainees. It’s all good because, under MY command, I’m going to “ban” torture – again.
Mensa Member April 26th, 2016 at 16:26
Here is my point — Obama is president. Not a prosecutor.
Why aren’t you blaming Congress? They have investigations all the time, often for the most frivolous reasons.
Why have’t they investigated allegations of the Vice President ordering torture?
Surely, this is more serious than Hillary’s choice of email servers.
Bunya April 26th, 2016 at 17:20
Really? Why aren’t I blaming congress? The same congress that anointed Bush emperor of the US? It was a republican controlled congress. They couldn’t give a shit about what the country thought.
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I just don’t think Obama did enough to bring attention to this scandal. Like Clinton and the Iran-Contra Scandal, when he became president, he urged everyone to just “move on”. Nothing was ever done about it, and that scandal went into history as another GOP Obama victory. And like the Iran-Contra scandal, torturing detainees (which is a war crime) is going to be forgotten – until it happens again, under another republican president.
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As for Hillary’s e-mail servers, this is what the GOP does. Do you remember how the U.S. became the laughingstock of the world because we were moving to impeach a president for lying about a BJ? And, not only that, but it was orchestrated Newt “family values guy” Gingrich, who served his wife divorce papers while she was in the hospital battling cancer so he could marry his whore.
Sam April 26th, 2016 at 16:30
hey I agree Bush should be in prison with Cheney, Rumsfeld,and con-die rice
Bunya April 26th, 2016 at 17:21
They’re such pukes. I’m amazed they’re still walking around, free as birds.
Sam April 26th, 2016 at 17:30
Give me one hour to water board Cheney and he’ll be confessing to the Lindberg kidnapping in 1932.
Mensa Member April 26th, 2016 at 15:25
Why is this guy still in prison and Dick Cheney is walking free?
Mensa Member April 26th, 2016 at 15:26
Why is this guy still in prison and D. Cheney is walking free?
Sam April 26th, 2016 at 16:18
Enhanced interrogation techniques is Dick Chaney changing the word. Dick Cheney comes up with a new word to cover his ass.
Waterboard dick Cheney for 1 hour he will be confessing to the Sharon Tate murders.
Sam April 26th, 2016 at 16:33
Enhanced interrogation techniques is Dick Chaney changing the word. Dick Cheney comes up with a new word to cover his ass.
Waterboard Cheney for 1 hour he will be confessing to the being Paul Ryan’s lover
Sam April 26th, 2016 at 16:34
Enhanced interrogation techniques is Chaney changing the word.
Cheney comes up with a new word to cover his brass.
Waterboard Cheney for 1 hour he will be confessing to the being Paul Ryan’s lover