Posted by | July 23, 2015 17:00 | Filed under: Contributors Mark Quincy Adams Politics Religion


 


There is no separation of church and state for these Republican candidates for President. Although it seems they all act as if their ideas come from out of this world, Salon has determined that six candidates actually claim that their try for the White House is divinely inspired.

Scott Walker

The Wisconsin governor describes his presidential bid as “God’s plan,” explaining that his political decisions are guided by God, not voters.

John Kasich 

John Kasich waited for a message from God before becoming the 16th Republican to enter the presidential race this week. During an appearance on NBC’s  ”Meet The Press” earlier this year, Gov. Kasich explained to host Chuck Todd that he was exploring what the Lord wants before to deciding to enter the race

Ben Carson

“I believe God will make it clear to me if that’s something I’m supposed to do,” Ben Carson told Fox News last August, adding that he would run “if God grabbed him by the collar and asked him to run.”

Rick Perry

Perry told CNN, “I’m getting more and more comfortable every day that this is what I’ve been called to do. This is what America needs,” before telling a radio host he decided to run after a message from God.

Rick Santorum

Rick Santorum’s family also had a divine understanding of what compelled his presidential ambitions. “… We have prayed a lot about this decision, and we believe with all our hearts that this is what God wants.”

Mike Huckabee

Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee recently said “For me, this is not just a political or financial decision, it is a spiritual decision. You know, the only thing worse than not being elected president would be to be elected president without God’s blessing. I can’t think of a worse place in the world to be than in the Oval Office without God’s hand upon you.”


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  • Greebo

    Obviously God wants some kind of revolving President.

  • Warman1138

    They’ve got six apostles so far, a few more and maybe they’ll bring the big guys kid back. In their dreams, bunch of Osteen wannabees. ” Praise the Lord and gimme some money! ”

  • labman57

    And in the 2014 campaign, you could have added Bachmann, Cain, and even Romney to the list of “chosen” candidates.

    All of which goes to prove that God is not without a sense of humor.

  • tracey marie

    When has gods hand ever been on hk fk?

    god must be a liberal, telling all these idiots to run so the Dems will win easily.

    • Larry Schmitt

      Only to smack him back to Arkansas for daring to invoke his name. If I were god, I would be ashamed to have my name associated with any of them.

    • rg9rts

      No no!!!! That is why Shen invented the Donald

      • The Original Just Me

        Maybe the Donald should tell us that he had an Inspired Vision last night and God appeared to him to prepare him for the Presidency. Man , would that ever shake them up.

  • Mike

    Which 5 are lying…???

    • BigDumbWhiteGuy

      They’re all lying. God does not care who is elected POTUS.

  • Larry Schmitt

    There is no effin way god is that stoopid. He/she/it would never pick any of these losers, and if anyone suggested one of them, god would have laughed in his face. And why would any god care who is president of any country anyway? Nations are strictly a human invention, and all the kings and emperors in history that were supposedly anointed by god don’t add up to a fart in a teacup.

    • bhil

      which is why we have been given free will

  • Suzanne McFly

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha…..These guys can’t even tell the difference, it is not God telling these idiots to run, it is the guy downstairs screwing with you. If you really think God has anything to do with this, your nuts.

    • Robert Kennedy

      Not really, they don’t have any. (sorry ’bout that)

      • Suzanne McFly

        Funny

  • jybarz

    These idiots don’t realize that they’re making God look like a liar and a fool to promise each of them His blessings.
    God is not that stupid to support any of these cold hearted billionaires’ servants.
    What a bunch of Kochsuckers.

  • fairmont66

    The asylums are filled with people who think that God is talking directly to them and nowadays they are running for President!

    • Gindy51

      They used to be until Ronnie shut them down and turned them loose, who knew that GOP candidate recruitment was to let the lunatics out of the asylum?

  • rg9rts

    When god spoke to them…did She say that they would be the exclusive choice??

  • Robert Kennedy

    Absolute proof that God doesn’t exist. If he did these guys would have all been fatally struck by lightning. Saying God told them to run, if there is a God would be considered taking his name in vain and a violation of the 3rd commandment.

  • It’s all God’s plan ‘to jack you up’-said The Supreme being!

    Then she bellowed as thunder clouds boomed: “You Lie! Huckabee, Santorum, Perry, birther Ben Carson, Kasich and Koch Walker!’

    • William

      I think God just has a cool sense of humor.

      • Progressive Republican

        The platypus and the Donald prove that!

  • robert

    we can eliminate 6 off the top or should i say their campaign is all over after these 6 tell the audience at the debates about how god spoke to them

    • Robert Kennedy

      You could eliminate 16 without hurting the country. In fact you would be doing the country a huge favor.

  • The Original Just Me

    What the Hell are we running here, a church or a Nation ?

  • The Original Just Me

    These Yea Whos, keep saying that our Founding Fathers were Divinely Inspired when they created our Nation. They think God lead them in their thinking and creating the Constitution. if this is so, why did he have them write the First Amendment so as to stop any intervening between Church and State ?

    • Dwendt44

      Many of them weren’t christian to begin with. Our first five presidents were NOT christian. Neither was Lincoln. And another president wasn’t either but I couldn’t find the exact one to that query.
      This was and is a secular country under a secular Constitution. The law of the land says explicitly that this country is not based on the christian religion.

      • The Original Just Me

        Christians have always tried to take over other peoples good things an make them their own ideas. For instance, the early Norsemen Mythology was quite widely adopted by the Christians. That is where Christians got Christmas, Easter, and many other of their so called Holidays and Rituals. Many things in our life today came from these early Norsemen, like the names of the days in the week and the directions on the compass. Oh, and then there are the names of Santa’s Reindeer.

        • Robert Kennedy

          The lead reindeer in Republican world isn’t Rudolph but Palooka.

          • The Original Just Me

            And he lives in a padded cell.

        • burqa

          The celebrations that evolved into Christmas and Easter predate the Norsemen by many centuries. One can find them practiced by the ancient Babylonians and Sumerians.

      • burqa

        I think they knew better than someone who comes along 240 years later what they believed.
        The last time we debated this you had not a scrap of evidence to support your assertions. I recall a claim by you that Washington’s writings were chock full of Deist statements but you could not provide a single one. At the time I had access to a friend’s massive collection of Washington’s writings and I couldn’t find anything he said about Deism, much less any claims that he was leaving his church and was joining a Deist congregation.
        The last time we discussed this I was posting statement after statement by those Founding Fathers, including those you claim were not Christians. You, on the other hand, had nothing but unsubstantiated allegations.
        Fortunately, a close friend has an extraordinary collection of the writings of people like Washington, Jefferson, Mason, Madison and others. The more I read the more I find my opinion supported by what these people said and did.
        If you have finally found something to indicate otherwise, I’ll be glad to go quote for quote with you on not just the first 5 presidents, but I have notes ready to post on people like John Marshall, Patrick Henry and Edmund Pendleton.

        Yes, we have a secular government but the composition of the nation can be described as mostly Christian. It has always been that way.

    • burqa

      The answer to your question can be seen in a description of the context of their times and the abuses they saw and the radical political philosophies they held forth.
      Nowadays we have a few kooks out there who seem to think they intended for this to be a country of atheists in which people of faith are not allowed to practice certain professions or speak of their faith publicly. It’s kinda wacky that these same people make a big deal about the First Amendment.
      The Founding Fathers did not want an official federal religion, though they seem to have tolerated official religions of individual states. They wanted to make it possible for people to practice their faiths and the Founders also saw what a positive role faith played in organizing society.
      The Founding Fathers spent a lot of time with secular political philosophy, but they also tended to be men of faith whose lives were closely tied to their faiths.
      While I can’t recall anyone saying God divinely inspired the Revolution and Constitution, Jefferson and Washington certainly believed God had a hand in the affairs of us.
      Before forming conclusions anchored in concrete, reading of the writings of those Founding Fathers is strongly suggested. I have been doing this when time permits and keep finding more and more that indicates current attempts at revisionist history to be not just unsupported by the facts, but strongly rebutted by what the FFs themselves said and did.

      • The Original Just Me

        Our founding Fathers were very wise men in that they chose to not chose between various beliefs. Theirs was a method of accepting all forms of religious preferences and all non believers. But they did chose wisely to prevent any one belief to dominate government and for government not to interfere with any religious practice. We live under three separate sets of laws. They do over lap and also interfere with each other but we have them and follow all of them just the same. These three sets of laws are, The law of Nature. Any thing that happens affects some thing else. Don’t Crap in the creek if you want to drink the water. The law of God. We are placed here on Earth to prove we are worthy of re-entering his presence. He gave us Ten guide lines to a proper life and we are to follow them. Defy these Commandments and the punishment will be after death. The third set of laws are Man’s Law. We make certain agreements among ourselves in order to get along and work together. Violate these agreements and the punishment shall be dealt with while you are here alive.

        • burqa

          Yes, I have a Jefferson quote somewhere around here where he spoke of not just various Christian sects having freedom of religion, which would have been a huge step forward. No, Jefferson tosses in the Jews and the “Mohametans” (I’m about 90% sure I got the spelling correct. The context of the quote was the debate around the Va. Statute for Religious Freedom. I have a further interest in that document because it was written about 30 yards from where I type.
          I like your synopsis of the 3 laws but would quibble with the second. The Christian doctrine clearly states that “Christ is the end of the Law for all who believe.” Though this doctrine has numerous instructions of various sorts, there is really only one law given, and it is rare to find a Christian who can cite it. I hasten to point out that this does not negate what you posted.

          The Va. Statute is dense as can be – one has to go slowly, but it is quite satisfying in what it says. I strongly recommend it.
          When Jefferson was designing his headstone, he wanted 3 achievements listed and being president was omitted, but being an author of the Va. Statute for Religious Freedom (as well as author of the Declaration of Independence and founder of UVa. being the others he wanted to be remembered most for).

  • William

    Psychological vetting…done.

  • amersham46

    At least Trump is not thumping a Bible yet

    • bhil

      Enough people worship him so he thinks he is god

      • The Original Just Me

        Well, he does seem to have a Golden halo around his head.

  • Tommie

    You should not mention God, since you do not act very Christian when it comes to the poor and minorities!

    • burqa

      Huh?
      Maybe you should look into what Christianity is about.
      It says we’re all a bunch of screw-ups who need to straignten up on a lot of things, including helping the poor. What comes easy for some is difficult for someone else and we’re all at different points on the road. So seeing a Christian who does not live up to the Christian doctrine is to be expected.
      The good news is, unlike many who are unbelievers, Christianity and other faiths have organizations that employ peer pressure and the tenets of the faith to help people improve. These organizations have, over the years, come up with all kinds of programs to help people do more to improve.
      Where I live, 78% of the food handed out at food pantries to the hungry comes from faith-based organizations. Where I live, the political beliefs of those who pitch in span the political spectrum and it is a beautiful thing to see political opponents working together for a greater good.
      Unfortunately, the media does not really cover what many thousands of believers do here on a regular basis to give to the poor, to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, visit those in prison or house the homeless. The result is many seem to buy into crude stereotypes about people of faith. These stereotypes do not reflect real life and I find it distressing that, after having lived through the civil rights movement and integrating our society, that so many have not learned the lessons taught way back then about stereotypes.

      • Tommie

        I was speaking about those on the right who claim to be Christians and yet hate the poor, and always talk down to minorities in this country!I was brought up in a very religious household!

  • fahvel

    these people are fking crazy – simple fact.

  • bpollen

    I don’t want to start
    Any blasphemous rumours
    But I think that God’s
    Got a sick sense of humour
    And when I die
    I expect to find Him laughing

    – Depeche Mode

    • The Original Just Me

      So God has a sick sense of humor. Well that explains why he is making me live in this decrepit old body so long.

      • bpollen

        I’m kinda glad he’s LETTING me live in this old decrepit body – the other choice is a little less palatable.

        • The Original Just Me

          Okay, now I have to tell you of an encounter with my neighbor some time back. My neighbor is a minister and a real regular guy. I have a nasty problem with my back and one day I was hobbling across my yard trying to get to the house. He saw me and asked; ” How you doing Neighbor ? ” I answered; ” Well, I’m still alive. ” He said That beats than the alternative. I answered back; But you are the one who is telling us how good the alternative is. After his chuckle and Ya, that’s right. I went on into the house. He is a good guy that can appreciate a joke.

          • bpollen

            Joke told to me by a priest:

            Jesus is speaking to the crowd of scribes and Pharisees who are calling for the stoning of a woman caught in the act of adultery. Jesus looks to the crowd and says “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” Out of the back of the crowd comes a huge rock and hits the woman on the head, flattening her. Jesus turns from the fallen woman (heh) and facing the crowd, arms akimbo, says “Mom, I told you not to bother me at work!”

            • The Original Just Me

              That one does take a minute to think about but it is Good.

              • bpollen

                Well, he WAS a priest… He also told another one that is long and involved and irreverent and distinctly Catholic, but it’s a tough one to tell, so I’ll spare you. Or maybe it’s me I sparing…