First Democratic Senator To Call For Shinseki To Resign
Democratic Senator Mark Udall of Colorado is the first one in his party to call for the resignation of Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki.
Click here for reuse options!Udall, who faces a tough reelection battle this fall, made his decision public via Twitter after the release of a preliminary Inspector General report, which found the pattern of covering up delays in patient care are “systemic throughout” the Dept. of Veterans Affairs.
In light of IG report & systemic issues at @DeptVetAffairs, Sec. Shinseki must step down: http://t.co/7zfNxqQMZa
— Mark Udall (@MarkUdall) May 28, 2014
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Bob Waas Sr. May 28th, 2014 at 19:03
Finally, someone with integrity.
Someone else who needs to be terminated is the one who outed the CIA agent in Afghanistan. I’m sure the same people who spent two years and millions of taxpayer dollars investigating the Valarie Plame outing will be right on this.
The WH said they will begin an internal investigation. That’s like saying Willie Sutton will be investigating the money missing from the local bank.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 14:09
or maybe it will be the people wasting millions on fake Benghazi investigations?
Bob Waas Sr. May 29th, 2014 at 16:26
No one died when Valerie Plame was outed. Besides, she wasn’t even working under cover at the time. It was strictly a political witch hunt by the Democrats and in the end it proved no one did anything wrong.
Wouldn’t you like to know why they blamed the video when it was known right away that it was a terrorist attack? Bob Beckel said it was to protect the president before the election.
Yes or no, would you still think it is a waste of time if George Bush was still in the WH? Or, would you like to know where he was when the attack was still in progress. Obama and Clinton were MIA.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 18:36
how do u know no one died? YES or NO they have never found anything to prove there was ever a white house cover up
YES or NO conservatives are afraid of Hillary and willing to spend millions on fake investigations to try to make her look bad
Bob Waas Sr. May 30th, 2014 at 00:06
Valerie Plame is still alive, so NO, no one died.
No! conservatives are not afraid of Hillary and they don’t have to make her look bad, she did fine on her own.
Chinese Democracy May 30th, 2014 at 10:39
so your answer is YES conservatives are afraid of Hillary
Bob Waas May 30th, 2014 at 11:06
What part of NO did you not understand?
America should be afraid of having her as POTUS. The only difference between her and Obama is that she is able to speak without a teleprompter, but the resulting damage to the USA would be the same. Only low information voters and those receiving their free ‘stuff’ will vote for her.
Chinese Democracy May 30th, 2014 at 16:32
LOL teleprompter aka u got nothin
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:05
You never answered Yes or No to the question. “would you still think it is a waste of time if George Bush was still in the WH? Or, would you like to know where he was when the attack was still in progress? Obama and Clinton were MIA.”
foxnewslieseveryday May 30th, 2014 at 17:49
What “damage to the USA”?
Bob Waas Sr. May 30th, 2014 at 22:10
Sorry, I forgot that you get all your news from MSNBC where the facts are never reported.
You probably believe all the hype about how many jobs have been created by Obama and deny the number that have been lost. How about the 7 trillion added to the national debt? The miserable growth in the economy; or rather the contraction in the first quarter of 1% http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27616183
The only people getting ahead are the rich. The middle class has seen their income decline 5k, while those in the stock market (rich) are making money.
foxnewslieseveryday May 30th, 2014 at 23:50
” MSNBC where the facts are never reported.”
Why would you be so inclined to Bear False Witness so easily?
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:02
Please provide a list of conservative voices who are hosts or contributors at MSNBC. All they report is left-wing psycho-babble to feed the hysteria of the 3 or 4 people who tune in on a regular basis.
TiredOfThemAll May 31st, 2014 at 11:14
Please provide a list of conservative voices who are hosts or contributors at MSNBC
_______
Scarboro.
As opposed to;
Fox, who an a poll which
ACTUALLY showed that 61% of Americans OPPOSE REDUCING collective bargaining
rights of government workers;
Fox switched it to;
61% of Americans FAVOR
REDUCING collective bargaining rights of government workers.
They used 4 year old
footage , and passed it off as from THEIR rally.
Passed off footage from
THEIR earlier bigger rally, as
Michelle Bachmann’s rally
Passed off footage of “union thugs” from
palm tree lined streets in Wisconsin.
Putting (D) after Mark
Foley and Mark Sanford, and John Kasich.
Bill Sammon, a Fox News vice
president and Washington managing editor, sent the staff a memo. Sammon is a
former Washington Times reporter.
“Please use the term ‘government-run
health insurance,’ or, when brevity is a concern, ‘government option,’ whenever
possible,” the memo said.
Memo from FNC Senior VP
John Moody the day after the election:
The elections and
Rumsfeld’s resignation were a major event, but not the end of the world. The
war on terror goes on without interruption. Jennifer Griffin sent in info on Hamas’
call for attacks on American interests. And let’s be on the lookout for any
statements from the Iraqi insurgents, who must be thrilled at the prospect of a
Dem-controlled congress.
Memo
“And be
on the lookout for statements from the Iraqi insurgents, who must be thrilled
at the prospect of a Dem-controlled Congress.”
But isn’t the term “TV News” an oxymoron???
Obewon May 31st, 2014 at 11:39
Many conservatives broadcast on MSNBC including Abby Huntsman co-hosting “the Cycle” “I am excited to bring a dose of moderate, rational conservatism to The Cycle,
Reality May 2013 to May 2014: Faux Benghazi bs tanks FNC ratings -Fox News was down 27% in total day viewers and 25% in younger viewers compared to May 2013. Fox News was also down 26% in total viewers and 28% with younger viewers in primetime. In both daytime and primetime, Fox News delivered their lowest ratings with younger viewers since August 2001.
TVNewser has the ugly primetime details, “All the network’s primetime shows are down double-digits year-over-year. “The O’Reilly Factor” is down -28% in total viewers and -30% in the A25-54 demo. “The Kelly File” is down -17% in total viewers and -27% in the demo compared to the 9pmET hour last year and “Hannity” is down -30% and -23%, respectively, compared to the 10pmET hour last year.” http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/28/benghazi-bs-wrecks-fox-news-ratings-plunge-27.html
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:53
Abby Huntsman is a token and doesn’t engage with her point of view like Beckel, Colmes, Juan Williams, and Powers do regularly on Fox. http://m.nationalreview.com/article/367921/abby-huntsman-fails-mix-it-cycle-andrew-johnson
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 12:10
You always distort the facts to favor your point of view and post them as if you are the authoritative voice of LL. Those of us with a brain know better and discount your stats as pure fairy tales and misinformation to play to those who believe” you have to passed it to see what’s in it.”
The real truth to the cable ratings are:
“Make no mistake, Fox News is still the ratings king. But the recent May numbers show that while all the cable channels had a decline in ratings (which is normal for May), Fox News was far from spared, with some of its lowest ratings in 12 years.”
“Still, Fox remains strong when compared to other networks…MSNBC had its lowest performance in prime time since July 2006, while CNN had the least-watched 9 p.m. hour in its entire history”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/05/may-cable-news-ratings-spare-no-one-189393.html
Obewon May 31st, 2014 at 12:24
Wass always projects his faults onto others e.g. RW Politico Said what I posted LOL!
Via the Wass link: “the total day average for Fox News in the key advertising demographic of the 25- to 54-year-old category was 177,000 viewers, only the second time Fox has gone below a 200,000 average since 2001.”
B) ” “The O’Reilly Factor.” O’Reilly had his lowest month since 2001 in the key demo, with 308,000 viewers.”
RIP FNC “the median age for O’Reilly (Audience) is now just over 72 years old. The average Fox News viewer overall is 68.8, while the average ages of MSNBC and CNN viewers were 62.5 and 62.8, respectively.”-D’oh!
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:51
You forgot to list the retractions when Fox realized they reported something in error.
I don’t doubt you like Fox news because the majority there are conservative and Christian.
TiredOfThemAll May 31st, 2014 at 12:08
You forgot to list the retractions when Fox realized they reported something in error.
_______
That’s because;
1) They only retract it when they get caught.
2) It never stops them from doing it over and over again.
What in the world does Christian have to do with it???
None of them seem very Christian to me.
But again, I believe that TV news is entertainment, not news.
I quit watching TV news in 2004, and quit smoking in 2006.
I don’t know was more toxic.
William May 31st, 2014 at 12:34
You forgot to list the retractions when Fox realized they reported something in error.
Translation.
Lie through their teeth.
http://youtu.be/h172eAPdPFo
William May 31st, 2014 at 12:35
In Error?…IN ERROR?
http://youtu.be/JS1NWYV1i_E
foxnewslieseveryday May 31st, 2014 at 14:14
So called conservatives and phony Christians.
Fixed.
foxnewslieseveryday May 31st, 2014 at 14:01
Let’s address your silly Lies first.
“Facts are never reported”
Why is it so easy for you to Bear False Witness?
foxnewslieseveryday May 29th, 2014 at 19:25
Why didn’t Issa call the CIA on the carpet?
What is criminal Issa afraid of?
Bob Waas Sr. May 29th, 2014 at 23:59
Why would Issa call the CIA on the carpet? It was the WH who leaked the name of the agent.
Issa is not a criminal and you will not find any evidence to support your false accusation.
foxnewslieseveryday May 30th, 2014 at 17:51
“Why would Issa call the CIA on the carpet?”
To get to the bottom of BENGHAAAAAAAZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!
William May 31st, 2014 at 12:01
Issa Was Convicted Of “Possession Of An Unregistered Handgun,” Paid Fine, And Served Probation. According to the San Francisco Chronicle: “[W]hen Issa was attending college in Michigan, was fined $100 and put on three months’ probation after being arrested for possession of an unregistered handgun, Michigan court records show.” [San Francisco Chronicle, 7/2/03]
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 16:08
I don’t recall reading in the Constitution where it required gun owners to register their firearms. I guess his criminal record didn’t keep him from serving in the military; so it must not have been too serious.
I figured out why all the attention towards Rep Issa. He is a self-made millionaire who took risks to become successful by working hard. Something foreign to those who criticize him the most.
William June 2nd, 2014 at 07:55
I don’t recall reading in the Constitution where it required gun owners to register their firearms.
I don’t recall in the Constitution where it is required that I drive slowly through a school zone, register my car or recycle my bottles.
Seriously…the tired old RWNJ trick of dismissing everything not found in the Constriction only works on the mouth breathers that also believe Glenn Beck when he tells you what the framers were “thinking”
There is no doubt in my mind that you are your ilk dismiss Issas sordid past. After all you genuflect to your radio daily when a drug addict/smuggler tells you what to think. You also have no problem with a pedophile/poacher/drug addict representing your “cause” via the NRA.
“I guess his criminal record didn’t keep him from serving in the military; so it must not have been too serious”
Thanks for acknowledging his criminal record that you denied in your previous post
Issa, however , went on his crime spree AFTER he left the service.
Nice try.
Lets talk about Issa military service shall we?
On his 17th birthday, he dropped out of high school and enlisted for three years in the Army. He became an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) technician, trained to defuse bombs, claiming his unit provided security for President Richard Nixon, sweeping stadiums for bombs prior to games in the 1971 World Series.[15] A May 1998 investigation by Lance Williams of the San Francisco Examiner said Nixon had not attended any of that year’s World Series games. Issa’s unit did perform security sweeps for the World Series. The investigation revealed that after the World Series Issa was transferred to a supply depot after receiving poor ratings. According to Issa, the Examiner reporter misunderstood an anecdote he had related
This is the guy that’s going to champion your feigned Benghazi indignation?
Boy you baggers and nut cases really know how to pick ’em eh?
Bob Waas Sr. May 28th, 2014 at 19:03
Finally, someone with integrity.
Someone else who needs to be terminated is the one who outed the CIA agent in Afghanistan. I’m sure the same people who spent two years and millions of taxpayer dollars investigating the Valarie Plame outing will be right on this.
The WH said they will begin an internal investigation. That’s like saying Willie Sutton will be investigating the money missing from the local bank.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 14:09
or maybe it will be the people wasting millions on fake Benghazi investigations?
Bob Waas Sr. May 29th, 2014 at 16:26
No one died when Valerie Plame was outed. Besides, she wasn’t even working under cover at the time. It was strictly a political witch hunt by the Democrats and in the end it proved no one did anything wrong.
Wouldn’t you like to know why they blamed the video when it was known right away that it was a terrorist attack? Bob Beckel said it was to protect the president before the election.
Yes or no, would you still think it is a waste of time if George Bush was still in the WH? Or, would you like to know where he was when the attack was still in progress. Obama and Clinton were MIA.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 18:36
how do u know no one died? YES or NO they have never found anything to prove there was ever a white house cover up
YES or NO conservatives are afraid of Hillary and willing to spend millions on fake investigations to try to make her look bad
Bob Waas Sr. May 30th, 2014 at 00:06
Valerie Plame is still alive, so NO, no one died.
No! conservatives are not afraid of Hillary and they don’t have to make her look bad, she did fine on her own.
Chinese Democracy May 30th, 2014 at 10:39
so your answer is YES conservatives are afraid of Hillary
Bob Waas May 30th, 2014 at 11:06
What part of NO did you not understand?
America should be afraid of having her as POTUS. The only difference between her and Obama is that she is able to speak without a teleprompter, but the resulting damage to the USA would be the same. Only low information voters and those receiving their free ‘stuff’ will vote for her.
Chinese Democracy May 30th, 2014 at 16:32
LOL teleprompter aka u got nothin
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:05
You never answered Yes or No to the question. “would you still think it is a waste of time if George Bush was still in the WH? Or, would you like to know where he was when the attack was still in progress? Obama and Clinton were MIA.”
FNLED May 30th, 2014 at 17:49
What “damage to the USA”?
Bob Waas Sr. May 30th, 2014 at 22:10
Sorry, I forgot that you get all your news from MSNBC where the facts are never reported.
You probably believe all the hype about how many jobs have been created by Obama and deny the number that have been lost. How about the 7 trillion added to the national debt? The miserable growth in the economy; or rather the contraction in the first quarter of 1% http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27616183
The only people getting ahead are the rich. The middle class has seen their income decline 5k, while those in the stock market (rich) are making money.
FNLED May 30th, 2014 at 23:50
” MSNBC where the facts are never reported.”
Why would you be so inclined to Bear False Witness so easily?
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:02
Please provide a list of conservative voices who are hosts or contributors at MSNBC. All they report is left-wing psycho-babble to feed the hysteria of the 3 or 4 people who tune in on a regular basis.
OldLefty May 31st, 2014 at 11:14
Please provide a list of conservative voices who are hosts or contributors at MSNBC
_______
Scarboro.
As opposed to;
Fox, who an a poll which
ACTUALLY showed that 61% of Americans OPPOSE REDUCING collective bargaining
rights of government workers;
Fox switched it to;
61% of Americans FAVOR
REDUCING collective bargaining rights of government workers.
They used 4 year old
footage , and passed it off as from THEIR rally.
Passed off footage from
THEIR earlier bigger rally, as
Michelle Bachmann’s rally
Passed off footage of “union thugs” from
palm tree lined streets in Wisconsin.
Putting (D) after Mark
Foley and Mark Sanford, and John Kasich.
Bill Sammon, a Fox News vice
president and Washington managing editor, sent the staff a memo. Sammon is a
former Washington Times reporter.
“Please use the term ‘government-run
health insurance,’ or, when brevity is a concern, ‘government option,’ whenever
possible,” the memo said.
Memo from FNC Senior VP
John Moody the day after the election:
The elections and
Rumsfeld’s resignation were a major event, but not the end of the world. The
war on terror goes on without interruption. Jennifer Griffin sent in info on Hamas’
call for attacks on American interests. And let’s be on the lookout for any
statements from the Iraqi insurgents, who must be thrilled at the prospect of a
Dem-controlled congress.
Memo
“And be
on the lookout for statements from the Iraqi insurgents, who must be thrilled
at the prospect of a Dem-controlled Congress.”
But isn’t the term “TV News” an oxymoron???
Obewon May 31st, 2014 at 11:39
Many conservatives broadcast on MSNBC including Abby Huntsman co-hosting “the Cycle” “I am excited to bring a dose of moderate, rational conservatism to The Cycle,
In reality-land from May 2013 to May 2014: Pedaling long ago Debunked Faux Benghazi bs tanks FNC ratings -Fox News was down 27% in total day viewers and 25% in younger viewers compared to May 2013. Fox News was also down 26% in total viewers and 28% with younger viewers in primetime. In both daytime and primetime, Fox News delivered their lowest ratings with younger viewers since August 2001.
TVNewser has the ugly primetime details, “All the network’s primetime shows are down double-digits year-over-year. “The O’Reilly Factor” is down -28% in total viewers and -30% in the A25-54 demo. “The Kelly File” is down -17% in total viewers and -27% in the demo compared to the 9pmET hour last year and “Hannity” is down -30% and -23%, respectively, compared to the 10pmET hour last year.” http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/28/benghazi-bs-wrecks-fox-news-ratings-plunge-27.html
Total Day “P2 is viewers aged 2 Years Old & Above:)+ (1.075 M)
All Ad Buys based upon ‘Advertising Key Demo Ages “25-54 Total Day FNC Viewers 197,000 Thursday, May 29, 2014”
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:53
Abby Huntsman is a token and doesn’t engage with her point of view like Beckel, Colmes, Juan Williams, and Powers do regularly on Fox. http://m.nationalreview.com/article/367921/abby-huntsman-fails-mix-it-cycle-andrew-johnson
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 12:10
You always distort the facts to favor your point of view and post them as if you are the authoritative voice of LL. Those of us with a brain know better and discount your stats as pure fairy tales and misinformation to play to those who believe” you have to passed it to see what’s in it.”
The real truth to the cable ratings are:
“Make no mistake, Fox News is still the ratings king. But the recent May numbers show that while all the cable channels had a decline in ratings (which is normal for May), Fox News was far from spared, with some of its lowest ratings in 12 years.”
“Still, Fox remains strong when compared to other networks…MSNBC had its lowest performance in prime time since July 2006, while CNN had the least-watched 9 p.m. hour in its entire history”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/05/may-cable-news-ratings-spare-no-one-189393.html
Obewon May 31st, 2014 at 12:24
Wass always projects his faults onto others e.g. RW Politico sugarcoated what I posted citing Nielsen ratings LOL!
Via the Wass link: “the total day average for Fox News in the key advertising demographic of the 25- to 54-year-old category was 177,000 viewers, only the second time Fox has gone below a 200,000 (“Total Day Viewers”) average since 2001.”
B) ” “The O’Reilly Factor.” O’Reilly had his lowest month since 2001 in the key demo, with 308,000 viewers.”
RIP FNC “the median age for O’Reilly (Audience) is now just over 72 years old. The average Fox News viewer overall is 68.8, while the average ages of MSNBC and CNN viewers were 62.5 and 62.8, respectively.”-D’oh!
FYI> About 14 M view PBS Newshour every evening, plus another 10M viewing NBC News every night, while Wass dribbles ‘I wanna see those debunked lies again everynight on FNC’s everyshow, every day BenGhazi reruns!’
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:51
You forgot to list the retractions when Fox realized they reported something in error.
I don’t doubt you like Fox news because the majority there are conservative and Christian.
OldLefty May 31st, 2014 at 12:08
You forgot to list the retractions when Fox realized they reported something in error.
_______
That’s because;
1) They only retract it when they get caught.
2) It never stops them from doing it over and over again.
What in the world does Christian have to do with it???
None of them seem very Christian to me.
But again, I believe that TV news is entertainment, not news.
I quit watching TV news in 2004, and quit smoking in 2006.
I don’t know was more toxic.
William May 31st, 2014 at 12:34
You forgot to list the retractions when Fox realized they reported something in error.
Translation.
Lie through their teeth.
http://youtu.be/h172eAPdPFo
William May 31st, 2014 at 12:35
In Error?…IN ERROR?
http://youtu.be/JS1NWYV1i_E
FNLED May 31st, 2014 at 14:14
So called conservatives and phony Christians.
Fixed.
FNLED May 31st, 2014 at 14:01
Let’s address your silly Lies first.
“Facts are never reported”
Why is it so easy for you to Bear False Witness?
FNLED May 29th, 2014 at 19:25
Why didn’t Issa call the CIA on the carpet?
What is criminal Issa afraid of?
Bob Waas Sr. May 29th, 2014 at 23:59
Why would Issa call the CIA on the carpet? It was the WH who leaked the name of the agent.
Issa is not a criminal and you will not find any evidence to support your false accusation.
FNLED May 30th, 2014 at 17:51
“Why would Issa call the CIA on the carpet?”
To get to the bottom of BENGHAAAAAAAZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!
What is felon Issa afraid of?
William May 31st, 2014 at 12:01
Issa Was Convicted Of “Possession Of An Unregistered Handgun,” Paid Fine, And Served Probation. According to the San Francisco Chronicle: “[W]hen Issa was attending college in Michigan, was fined $100 and put on three months’ probation after being arrested for possession of an unregistered handgun, Michigan court records show.” [San Francisco Chronicle, 7/2/03]
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 16:08
I don’t recall reading in the Constitution where it required gun owners to register their firearms. I guess his criminal record didn’t keep him from serving in the military; so it must not have been too serious.
I figured out why all the attention towards Rep Issa. He is a self-made millionaire who took risks to become successful by working hard. Something foreign to those who criticize him the most.
William June 2nd, 2014 at 07:55
I don’t recall reading in the Constitution where it required gun owners to register their firearms.
I don’t recall in the Constitution where it is required that I drive slowly through a school zone, register my car or recycle my bottles.
Seriously…the tired old RWNJ trick of dismissing everything not found in the Constriction only works on the mouth breathers that also believe Glenn Beck when he tells you what the framers were “thinking”
There is no doubt in my mind that you are your ilk dismiss Issas sordid past. After all you genuflect to your radio daily when a drug addict/smuggler tells you what to think. You also have no problem with a pedophile/poacher/draft dodger representing your “cause” via the NRA.
“I guess his criminal record didn’t keep him from serving in the military; so it must not have been too serious”
Thanks for acknowledging his criminal record that you denied in your previous post
Issa, however , went on his crime spree AFTER he left the service.
Nice try.
Lets talk about Issa military service shall we?
On his 17th birthday, he dropped out of high school and enlisted for three years in the Army. He became an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) technician, trained to defuse bombs, claiming his unit provided security for President Richard Nixon, sweeping stadiums for bombs prior to games in the 1971 World Series.[15] A May 1998 investigation by Lance Williams of the San Francisco Examiner said Nixon had not attended any of that year’s World Series games. Issa’s unit did perform security sweeps for the World Series. The investigation revealed that after the World Series Issa was transferred to a supply depot after receiving poor ratings. According to Issa, the Examiner reporter misunderstood an anecdote he had related
Add serial liar to his resume.
No surprise that you worship his money. Clearly money means more to you than honor.
This is the guy that’s going to champion your feigned Benghazi indignation?
Boy you baggers and nut cases really know how to pick ’em eh?
Rixar13 McGinnis May 28th, 2014 at 21:10
Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki will not resign nor should he…
bobby1122 May 28th, 2014 at 21:26
60 dead vets left to rot in L.A. morgue for a year and longer. http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/05/obama-photo-op-in-afghanistan-on-memorial-day-a-disgrace-neglects-60-dead-veterans-left-to-rot-in-la-county-morgue-for-18-months/
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 16:32
If you tea clowns ever told the truth, most Americans would be shocked e. .g. “stringent identification/eligibility processes required by the VA.” http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/23/bodies-of-28-veterans-at-la-county-morgue-will-finally-receive-proper-burial/
Rixar13 McGinnis May 28th, 2014 at 21:10
Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki will not resign nor should he…
bobby1122 May 28th, 2014 at 21:26
60 dead vets left to rot in L.A. morgue for a year and longer. http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/05/obama-photo-op-in-afghanistan-on-memorial-day-a-disgrace-neglects-60-dead-veterans-left-to-rot-in-la-county-morgue-for-18-months/
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 16:32
If you tea clowns ever told the truth, most Americans would be shocked e. .g. “stringent identification/eligibility processes required by the VA.” http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/23/bodies-of-28-veterans-at-la-county-morgue-will-finally-receive-proper-burial/
bobby1122 May 28th, 2014 at 21:25
Obama will protect Shinseki- Shinseki spoke out against the “surge” that Bush ordered.. OF course neither of these political cowards will own up to this.:; http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/05/obama-photo-op-in-afghanistan-on-memorial-day-a-disgrace-neglects-60-dead-veterans-left-to-rot-in-la-county-morgue-for-18-months/
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 15:20
speaking of the “surge” Bush created. 2 unnecessary wars seem to have overwhelmed the system huh.
We have a WAR problem not a VA problem
bobby1122 May 28th, 2014 at 21:25
Obama will protect Shinseki- Shinseki spoke out against the “surge” that Bush ordered.. OF course neither of these political cowards will own up to this.:; http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/05/obama-photo-op-in-afghanistan-on-memorial-day-a-disgrace-neglects-60-dead-veterans-left-to-rot-in-la-county-morgue-for-18-months/
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 15:20
speaking of the “surge” Bush created. 2 unnecessary wars seem to have overwhelmed the system huh.
We have a WAR problem not a VA problem
Nobama May 29th, 2014 at 13:51
Obama is more concerned with his chronic toenail fungus from the bathhouse days than he is about veterans.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 14:07
at least Obama doesnt care about veterans like this :)
Veterans Rip Paul Ryan over Budget’s Military Pension Cuts
or this?
Senate GOP Obstructionists Throw Veterans Under The Bus-Vote Down Bill To Help Vets In Need Of Jobs
or this?
GOP blocks COLA on benefits for disabled veterans and survivors
or what about this?
GOP Voted Against 7 Bills to Help Veterans
u got your Hanity blinders on
Nobama May 29th, 2014 at 15:36
Obama 7 years agohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIXK2cjcbPg
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 15:56
Halliburton Cheney’s attacking the wrong country of Iraq Cost 4.500 US KIA & 1.5 M US Injuries including 1/3 of all US Milt PTSD totaling $4 T, Plus $2 T in VA costs = $6 T+!. Time to payup with VA services & benefits Tea Klan!
Nobama May 29th, 2014 at 17:21
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-love/who-voted-to-authorize-fo_b_85652.html 29 Senate Democrats voted yea for Iraq war. Clinton, Biden, Kerry, Schumer, Reid etc.etc
arc99 May 29th, 2014 at 17:40
so 29 Senate Democrats made the mistake of believing Republicans. the most liberal Democrats such as Barbara Boxer did not make that mistake.
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 18:07
Wisconsin Senator Paul Wellstone opposed Iraq War & suddenly died in a plane crash! That sure hushed debate! http://www.alternet.org/story/14399/was_paul_wellstone_murdered How’s that working out for record low approval GOP, TP & Congressional repubs?
238 presidential scholars polled annually since 1982: Bush worst president of modern era, fifth worst in US history! http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/07/01/nations-leading-presidential-scholars-bush-worst-president-modern-era-5th-worst-history/
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 10:56
Obama is the 4th best president in American history. Of course, the first 43 all tied for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
Obewon May 31st, 2014 at 11:23
238 Sienna Scholars polled annually since 1982 “rank President Obama 15th best president.”-Via RW Politico. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39283.html
If Wass/RightofCenter, et al ever told the truth, LL would be shocked.
William May 31st, 2014 at 11:42
I have more bad news for you Corkey.
http://www.ebony.com/black-listed/news-views/hillary-clinton-and-barack-obama-voted-most-admired-in-2012-981
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 16:24
Old news William – NBC/WSJ Poll – The “personal feelings” rating for Obama is now 41/44, with 15% neutral, in this poll. with 15% neutral, in this poll. A year ago, Hillary Clinton’s personal favorability was 56/29, with 32% very positive about the recently-retired Secretary of State and only 15% very negative. Those poll results came seven months after Benghazi, too. Today it’s 41/34, and 23/22 on the “very” ratings for the presumptive 2016 front-runner, respectively.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/12/nbcwsj-poll-shows-obama-approval-at-new-low-of-41/
Obewon May 31st, 2014 at 17:18
Wass & GOP are terrified that H.Clinton’s voter Majority beats any GOP in any statistical Poll: “If the 2016 presidential election were being held today and the candidates were Hillary Clinton (53%), the Democrat, and Jeb Bush (41%), the Republican, for whom would you vote?”-ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 24-27, 2014. Registered voters nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.5%. http://www.pollingreport.com/wh16gen.htm
BHO most recent “Favorability 49%” 1% Unsure, 50% UF-ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Jan. 20-23, 2014 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.5% Registered voters. Among adults (There’s never been any tracking of “personal feelings” criteria, except that everyone on LL feels that Wass’ gullibility & universal dishonesty is moronic.)
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 20:49
You continue to use old data. “The downward trajectory of Barack Obama’s approval ratings continues, this time in one of the friendliest poll series the White House enjoys. The President plunged to a new low in the NBC/WSJ poll approval ratings, with a 41/54 gap.
TiredOfThemAll June 1st, 2014 at 08:29
You continue to use old data. “The downward trajectory of Barack Obama’s approval ratings continues
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Barack Obama’s approval ratings remain fluctuating in the mid 40’s and are no where near as low as Congress’s in general and the GOP’s specifically. (Obama shares the same approval rating as Mitch McConnell in Kentucky).
This is always a good outcome for the GOP who thrive on apathy from the majority and fear and loathing from their base.
Closer examination of any in depth polls show an interesting dichotomy;
Even when they disapprove of “Obama’s handling of (insert issue here), they approve of Obama’s handling of (insert issue here), as in
Do you approve of disapprove of “Obama’s handling of (insert issue here) results… negative.
Do you approve of disapprove of ” (insert Obama’s policies here) results… positive.
Same as those in Kentucky love Kynect, hate “Obamacare.
(Reuters) – Americans increasingly think
Democrats have a better plan for healthcare than Republicans, according to a
Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted after the White House announced that more people
than expected had signed up for the “Obamacare” health plan.
Nearly one-third of respondents in the online
survey released on Tuesday said they prefer Democrats’ plan, policy or approach
to healthcare, compared to just 18 percent for Republicans. This marks both an uptick in support for Democrats and a slide for Republicans since a similar poll in February.
The American people trust Democrats more than
Republicans on some of the key issues of the day, including healthcare.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/03/04/National-Politics/Polling/release_300.xml
Or;
“To date, most Americans have been personally unaffected by the new health care law,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.From Kaiser; most Americans continue to report no personal experience with the law to date.
Add that; Most people get info from least trusted sources.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e2019aff4d1b37970d-pi
I don’t think that approval ratings are likely to improve much over the next decades until the lack of an uninformed public does.
That is not going to change as long as the MSM is committed to infotainment only and does not consider it their job to “fact check their guests”.
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 13:48
Moral relativism. Obama sucks, but Congress sucks more, so let’s mark them on a curve so they all get a passing grade.
Most Americans haven’t felt the full impact of Obamacare because Obama delayed implementation of so many conditions based upon where they fell in the election cycle.
TiredOfThemAll June 1st, 2014 at 15:57
Most Americans haven’t felt the full impact of Obamacare because Obama delayed
______
That’s his job.
Do it right, not quickly.
I have worked in healthcare for 40 years, and have been following it since Nixon’s HMOs
We see more people who are thrilled, and many will add, “Do you think that Obamacare will screw this up?”
There are few with whom we bother telling that this IS “Obamacare”.
William June 1st, 2014 at 08:36
The President plunged to a new low in the NBC/WSJ poll approval ratings, with a 41/54 gap.
Yeah, hey Corkey you do know the President isn’t running for reelection right? Something about a 22nd amendment thingy.
Now lets talk numbers.
Lets talk about the *snicker* republican Congress approval rating.
Sort of puts that Romney landslide victory thing in perspective, doesn’t it?
Yep America is really in love with the GOP.
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 13:42
Thank God that Obama can’t run again! When his numbers fall like they have it creates a big sucking sound, which sucks the rest of the Democrats down with him; which is why so many of those up for reelection are distancing themselves from him and his signature accomplishment, Obamacare.
William June 1st, 2014 at 17:17
why so many of those up for reelection are distancing themselves from him
President Romney tell you that?
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 17:43
Why do liberals have so much trouble dealing with the facts. I didn’t make it up, I just repeated what Obama’s former adviser said:
“David Axelrod: Dem Candidates Need Independence From Obama to Win”
http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/democrats-candidates-david-axelrod-independence/2014/02/07/id/551471/
foxnewslieseveryday June 1st, 2014 at 17:58
Those quotes from Axelrod doesn’t prove that anyone is distancing themselves from Obama at all.
Why are you always using logical fallacies?
William June 1st, 2014 at 19:18
Oh…..
So you don’t have any actual facts or data to support your statement, just Axelrods “opinion”
Ok…got it.
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 20:40
What facts do you want? The internet is full of them, Google them for yourself. Sen. Landrieu has not hidden the fact that she doesn’t want to be in the same city as Obama.
I thought Axelrod was esteemed when he worked for Obama and his opinion was thought important.
mea_mark May 31st, 2014 at 12:23
What an unintelligent comment.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 16:12
Of course it was unintelligent, it was satire and required a sense of humor to understand.
arc99 May 31st, 2014 at 17:06
of course you fail to mention that those rankings were compiled by the skewed poll Romney landslide guy.
conservatives and statistics do not mix well at all. too much reality required.
now that was satire too. mostly.
Shades May 31st, 2014 at 21:51
I think you need to look up the word “satire.”
mea_mark May 31st, 2014 at 21:58
At least the first five words of his comment were spot on.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 23:11
You need to look it up, I already know what it is. I learned it here on LL when I objected to Bill Maher calling VP candidate Sarah Palin a c*nt. They called it satire.
TiredOfThemAll June 1st, 2014 at 08:03
You need to look it up, I already know what it is. I learned it here on LL when I objected to Bill Maher calling VP candidate Sarah Palin a c*nt. They called it satire.
_______
Many liberals, especially women trashed Maher. It is less relevant as he is a comedian with a one hour/week show on a premium channel.
Where you as outraged when Citizen’s United had a subgroup and was selling tee shirts;
“The more people go to the site, the more people buy the T-shirts…. Citizens United Not Timid;
To educate the American public about what Hillary Clinton really is.
http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/rogerstone-20080220.jpg
” Stone explains…. “The more people buy the T-shirts, the more people wear the T-shirts. The more people wear the T-shirts, the more people are educated. Consequently, our mission has been achieved.”
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 14:26
Sorry, but I don’t remember liberals calling out Maher for his comments. I got torn up quite a bit for saying how it was in poor taste; just like when Rush made derogatory remarks about Sandra Fluke. Liberals calling out other liberals for bad behavior is like Muslims calling out radical Muslims for their bad behavior; it never happens.
The tee shirt is pretty disgusting. Whatever happen to debating qualifications?
TiredOfThemAll June 1st, 2014 at 15:46
Kirsten Powers and Why we must defend Sarah Palin
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/27/960371/-Why-we-must-defend-Sarah-Palin
are two that come to mind.
I think, more accurately ; CONSERVATIVES calling out other conservatives for bad behavior is like Muslims calling out radical Muslims for their bad behavior, (after the conservatives funded them).
Shades June 1st, 2014 at 16:07
Sheesh, do I have to post it for you? You got the derision part down. What was lacking was the wit and irony. Watch Steven Colbert to learn about satire. Your remark was simply an awkwardly worded insult. You don’t get to call it satire because you embarrassed yourself.
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 17:41
And you voted TWICE for the $6 T faux intelligence clowns! Guess why you lost 5 of the past 6 popular POTUS votes? D’oh!
arc99 May 29th, 2014 at 17:48
over in the House, 126 out of 208 Democrats opposed the vote to go to war. Combine that with the 21 out of 50 in the Senate, that makes 147 out of 258 Congressional Democrats who got it right on Iraq. 57% opposed the Iraq war. Meanwhile, 7 Republicans out of 263 in both Houses opposed it.
I have no problem admitting when some Democrats make a mistake, and in this instance, believing Republicans and the Bush administration was about as big a mistake as one can make.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 10:44
You have no problem when some Democrats make a mistake? We went to war with Congress’ approval receiving votes from both parties. Obamacare was passed without one Republican vote.
So, based on your logic, the Republicans are much smarter because they could see through the lies of Obamacare and not vote for something they didn’t believe in.
The Democrats showed real leadership when they ran from their conviction that Iraq had WMD, (which they were preaching loudly up to the time we invaded them) and retreated to a “Blame Bush” mantra to protect themselves because they didn’t do their due diligence before voting “YAY” which is what they did with Obamacare. Now those same Democrats are running away from Obamacare in their reelection campaigns; but this time they can’t blame Bush. In fact, they have gone so far as to not invite Obama to any campaign appearances because it would negatively affect their chances of winning.
mea_mark May 31st, 2014 at 10:54
Logic fail.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:30
Not a logic fail, a comprehension fail by you. You needed to read earlier posts from arc99
William May 31st, 2014 at 11:38
The Democrats showed real leadership when they ran from their conviction that Iraq had WMD
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
http://youtu.be/OSN-Kku_rFE
arc99 May 31st, 2014 at 16:54
First of all, stop lying about what I said. I did not say I have no problem when some Democrats make a mistake. I said that I have no problem ADMITTING when some Democrats make a mistake.
I also pointed out that the MAJORITY of the Democratic caucus in Congress across both houses opposed the war. I also pointed out that the opposition to the war came from the most LIBERAL members of the party and the Democrats who listened to the Bush administration and right wing hawks are a prime example of what a mistake it is to do that.
The unapologetic hypocrisy of you folks on the right is a thing to behold. For the past 5 years you rant and rave about the President taking responsibility for what happens on his watch. But when it comes to the Iraq war, somehow it is the fault of Democrats.
By the way, the ACA contains several provisions that had been endorsed by the GOP for years before the President was elected, why not ask the Republican members of Congress why they are such spiteful, hypocritical partisans that they would try to sabotage their own ideas.
There is no need to blame President Bush for the ACA. Once the program is implemented and divorced from the right wing lies of the past 5 years, even in very red states like Kentucky, people like what they see. Even Mitch McConnell has realized that.
The ACA is here. People like it once they see what it provides. Your right wing talking points will soon be another quaint example of how conservatives were on the wrong side of history.
Again. Like that pointless war in Iraq for which you pathetically try to blame Democrats.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 18:17
Misquoting is far from lying. No one is blaming Democrats. I just get sick of hearing secular progressive liberals blame Bush alone for Iraq when it was passed by Congress; based on the intelligence available at the time. I find the behavior of Kerry, Clinton and others reprehensible and downright cowardly for their lack of patriotism when it turned out there were no WMD.
arc99 June 1st, 2014 at 14:00
my comment was in print. the new comment features enable editing of what you write.
if you cannot take the time to read what you are responding to and respond accurately, it tells us all we need to know about your analysis of more complex questions.
William May 31st, 2014 at 11:34
The President mentions “bipartisan”. Thanks for pointing out just why the President can’t keep promises.
The President warned us about this.
In Feb this year the GOP filibustered and lead the defeat in increased funding for VA healthcare.
Thanks for pointing out how the President ardently supported veterans health care.
Please go on. I also want to hear how the President broke his promise about closing Gitmo, as the GOP pulled funding for the closing.
Then we can have a nice chat about funding Embassy security.
mea_mark May 29th, 2014 at 16:39
It almost sounds to me like the entire GOP should resign, if Shinseki should. I suppose that would be a fair trade off.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 18:31
I agree!
Shades May 29th, 2014 at 15:49
Seriously? That’s how you want to play this? Everyone admits what’s happened with the VA is horrendous and needs to be addressed immediately and you’re going with bathhouse innuendo? You think that gives you the moral high ground? I thought you were one of the (extremely) few conservatives capable of carrying on an intelligent debate here but now I see you’re just another troll.
William May 31st, 2014 at 11:21
Your preoccupation with the subject of “bathhouses” during a discussion about the plight of veterans says so very much about what occupies your persona.
Please go take care of your little fantasy and return when you get it out of your system.
Oblowz May 29th, 2014 at 13:51
Obama is more concerned with his chronic toenail fungus from the bathhouse days than he is about veterans.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 14:07
at least Obama doesnt care about veterans like this :)
Veterans Rip Paul Ryan over Budget’s Military Pension Cuts
or this?
Senate GOP Obstructionists Throw Veterans Under The Bus-Vote Down Bill To Help Vets In Need Of Jobs
or this?
GOP blocks COLA on benefits for disabled veterans and survivors
or what about this?
GOP Voted Against 7 Bills to Help Veterans
u got your Hanity blinders on
Oblowz May 29th, 2014 at 15:36
Obama 7 years agohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIXK2cjcbPg
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 15:56
Halliburton Cheney’s attacking the wrong country of Iraq cost 4.500 US KIA & 1.5 M US Injuries including 1/3 of all US Milt now suffering PTSD from back-to-back deployments without mandatory leave, now totals $4 T, Plus $2 T in VA costs = $6 T+!. Time to payup with VA services & benefits Tea Klan!
Oblowz May 29th, 2014 at 17:21
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-love/who-voted-to-authorize-fo_b_85652.html 29 Senate Democrats voted yea for Iraq war. Clinton, Biden, Kerry, Schumer, Reid etc.etc
arc99 May 29th, 2014 at 17:40
so 29 Senate Democrats made the mistake of believing Republicans. the most liberal Democrats such as Barbara Boxer did not make that mistake.
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 18:07
Wisconsin Senator Paul Wellstone opposed Iraq War & suddenly died in a plane crash! That sure hushed debate! http://www.alternet.org/story/14399/was_paul_wellstone_murdered How’s that working out for record low approval GOP, TP & Congressional repubs?
238 presidential scholars polled annually since 1982: Bush worst president of modern era, fifth worst in US history! http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/07/01/nations-leading-presidential-scholars-bush-worst-president-modern-era-5th-worst-history/
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 10:56
Obama is the 4th best president in American history. Of course, the first 43 all tied for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
Obewon May 31st, 2014 at 11:23
238 Sienna Scholars polled annually since 1982 “rank President Obama 15th best president.”-Via RW Politico. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39283.html
If Wass/RightofCenter, et al ever told the truth, LL would be shocked.
William May 31st, 2014 at 11:42
I have more bad news for you Corkey.
http://www.ebony.com/black-listed/news-views/hillary-clinton-and-barack-obama-voted-most-admired-in-2012-981
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 16:24
Old news William – NBC/WSJ Poll – The “personal feelings” rating for Obama is now 41/44, with 15% neutral, in this poll. with 15% neutral, in this poll. A year ago, Hillary Clinton’s personal favorability was 56/29, with 32% very positive about the recently-retired Secretary of State and only 15% very negative. Those poll results came seven months after Benghazi, too. Today it’s 41/34, and 23/22 on the “very” ratings for the presumptive 2016 front-runner, respectively.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/12/nbcwsj-poll-shows-obama-approval-at-new-low-of-41/
Obewon May 31st, 2014 at 17:18
Wass & GOP are terrified that H.Clinton’s “Landslide” voter Majority beats any GOP in any statistical Poll: “If the 2016 presidential election were being held today and the candidates were Hillary Clinton (53%), the Democrat, and Jeb Bush (41%), the Republican, for whom would you vote?”-ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 24-27, 2014. Registered voters nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.5%. http://www.pollingreport.com/wh16gen.htm
BHO most recent “Favorability 49%” 1% Unsure, 50% UF-ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Jan. 20-23, 2014 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.5% Registered voters. (There’s never been any tracking of “personal feelings” criteria, except that everyone on LL feels that Wass’ gullibility & universal dishonesty is moronic.)
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 20:49
You continue to use old data. “The downward trajectory of Barack Obama’s approval ratings continues, this time in one of the friendliest poll series the White House enjoys. The President plunged to a new low in the NBC/WSJ poll approval ratings, with a 41/54 gap.
OldLefty June 1st, 2014 at 08:29
You continue to use old data. “The downward trajectory of Barack Obama’s approval ratings continues
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Barack Obama’s approval ratings remain fluctuating in the mid 40’s and are no where near as low as Congress’s in general and the GOP’s specifically. (Obama shares the same approval rating as Mitch McConnell in Kentucky).
This is always a good outcome for the GOP who thrive on apathy from the majority and fear and loathing from their base.
Closer examination of any in depth polls show an interesting dichotomy;
Even when they disapprove of “Obama’s handling of (insert issue here), they approve of Obama’s handling of (insert issue here), as in
Do you approve of disapprove of “Obama’s handling of (insert issue here) results… negative.
Do you approve of disapprove of ” (insert Obama’s policies here) results… positive.
Same as those in Kentucky love Kynect, hate “Obamacare.
(Reuters) – Americans increasingly think
Democrats have a better plan for healthcare than Republicans, according to a
Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted after the White House announced that more people
than expected had signed up for the “Obamacare” health plan.
Nearly one-third of respondents in the online
survey released on Tuesday said they prefer Democrats’ plan, policy or approach
to healthcare, compared to just 18 percent for Republicans. This marks both an uptick in support for Democrats and a slide for Republicans since a similar poll in February.
The American people trust Democrats more than
Republicans on some of the key issues of the day, including healthcare.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/03/04/National-Politics/Polling/release_300.xml
Or;
“To date, most Americans have been personally unaffected by the new health care law,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.From Kaiser; most Americans continue to report no personal experience with the law to date.
Add that; Most people get info from least trusted sources.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e2019aff4d1b37970d-pi
I don’t think that approval ratings are likely to improve much over the next decades until the lack of an uninformed public does.
That is not going to change as long as the MSM is committed to infotainment only and does not consider it their job to “fact check their guests”.
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 13:48
Moral relativism. Obama sucks, but Congress sucks more, so let’s mark them on a curve so they all get a passing grade.
Most Americans haven’t felt the full impact of Obamacare because Obama delayed implementation of so many conditions based upon where they fell in the election cycle.
OldLefty June 1st, 2014 at 15:57
Most Americans haven’t felt the full impact of Obamacare because Obama delayed
______
That’s his job.
Do it right, not quickly.
I have worked in healthcare for 40 years, and have been following it since Nixon’s HMOs
We see more people who are thrilled, and many will add, “Do you think that Obamacare will screw this up?”
There are few with whom we bother telling that this IS “Obamacare”.
William June 1st, 2014 at 08:36
The President plunged to a new low in the NBC/WSJ poll approval ratings, with a 41/54 gap.
Yeah, hey Corkey you do know the President isn’t running for reelection right? Something about a 22nd amendment thingy.
Now lets talk numbers.
Lets talk about the *snicker* republican Congress approval rating.
Sort of puts that Romney landslide victory thing in perspective, doesn’t it?
Yep America is really in love with the GOP.
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 13:42
Thank God that Obama can’t run again! When his numbers fall like they have it creates a big sucking sound, which sucks the rest of the Democrats down with him; which is why so many of those up for reelection are distancing themselves from him and his signature accomplishment, Obamacare.
William June 1st, 2014 at 17:17
why so many of those up for reelection are distancing themselves from him
President Romney tell you that?
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 17:43
Why do liberals have so much trouble dealing with the facts. I didn’t make it up, I just repeated what Obama’s former adviser said:
“David Axelrod: Dem Candidates Need Independence From Obama to Win”
http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/democrats-candidates-david-axelrod-independence/2014/02/07/id/551471/
FNLED June 1st, 2014 at 17:58
Those quotes from Axelrod doesn’t prove that anyone is distancing themselves from Obama at all.
Why are you always using logical fallacies?
William June 1st, 2014 at 19:18
Oh…..
So you don’t have any actual facts or data to support your statement, just Axelrods “opinion”
Ok…got it.
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 20:40
What facts do you want? The internet is full of them, Google them for yourself. Sen. Landrieu has not hidden the fact that she doesn’t want to be in the same city as Obama.
I thought Axelrod was esteemed when he worked for Obama and his opinion was thought important.
mea_mark May 31st, 2014 at 12:23
What an unintelligent comment.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 16:12
Of course it was unintelligent, it was satire and required a sense of humor to understand.
arc99 May 31st, 2014 at 17:06
of course you fail to mention that those rankings were compiled by the skewed poll Romney landslide guy.
conservatives and statistics do not mix well at all. too much reality required.
now that was satire too. mostly.
Shades May 31st, 2014 at 21:51
I think you need to look up the word “satire.”
mea_mark May 31st, 2014 at 21:58
At least the first five words of his comment were spot on.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 23:11
You need to look it up, I already know what it is. I learned it here on LL when I objected to Bill Maher calling VP candidate Sarah Palin a c*nt. They called it satire.
OldLefty June 1st, 2014 at 08:03
You need to look it up, I already know what it is. I learned it here on LL when I objected to Bill Maher calling VP candidate Sarah Palin a c*nt. They called it satire.
_______
Many liberals, especially women trashed Maher. It is less relevant as he is a comedian with a one hour/week show on a premium channel.
Where you as outraged when Citizen’s United had a subgroup and was selling tee shirts;
“The more people go to the site, the more people buy the T-shirts…. Citizens United Not Timid;
To educate the American public about what Hillary Clinton really is.
http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/rogerstone-20080220.jpg
” Stone explains…. “The more people buy the T-shirts, the more people wear the T-shirts. The more people wear the T-shirts, the more people are educated. Consequently, our mission has been achieved.”
Bob Waas Sr. June 1st, 2014 at 14:26
Sorry, but I don’t remember liberals calling out Maher for his comments. I got torn up quite a bit for saying how it was in poor taste; just like when Rush made derogatory remarks about Sandra Fluke. Liberals calling out other liberals for bad behavior is like Muslims calling out radical Muslims for their bad behavior; it never happens.
The tee shirt is pretty disgusting. Whatever happen to debating qualifications?
OldLefty June 1st, 2014 at 15:46
Kirsten Powers and Why we must defend Sarah Palin
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/27/960371/-Why-we-must-defend-Sarah-Palin
are two that come to mind.
I think, more accurately ; CONSERVATIVES calling out other conservatives for bad behavior is like Muslims calling out radical Muslims for their bad behavior, (after the conservatives funded them).
Shades June 1st, 2014 at 16:07
Sheesh, do I have to post it for you? You got the derision part down. What was lacking was the wit and irony. Watch Steven Colbert to learn about satire. Your remark was simply an awkwardly worded insult. You don’t get to call it satire because you embarrassed yourself.
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 17:41
And you voted TWICE for the $6 T faux intelligence clowns! Guess why you lost 5 of the past 6 popular POTUS votes? D’oh!
arc99 May 29th, 2014 at 17:48
over in the House, 126 out of 208 Democrats opposed the vote to go to war. Combine that with the 21 out of 50 in the Senate, that makes 147 out of 258 Congressional Democrats who got it right on Iraq. 57% opposed the Iraq war. Meanwhile, 7 Republicans out of 263 in both Houses opposed it.
I have no problem admitting when some Democrats make a mistake, and in this instance, believing Republicans and the Bush administration was about as big a mistake as one can make.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 10:44
You have no problem when some Democrats make a mistake? We went to war with Congress’ approval receiving votes from both parties. Obamacare was passed without one Republican vote.
So, based on your logic, the Republicans are much smarter because they could see through the lies of Obamacare and not vote for something they didn’t believe in.
The Democrats showed real leadership when they ran from their conviction that Iraq had WMD, (which they were preaching loudly up to the time we invaded them) and retreated to a “Blame Bush” mantra to protect themselves because they didn’t do their due diligence before voting “YAY” which is what they did with Obamacare. Now those same Democrats are running away from Obamacare in their reelection campaigns; but this time they can’t blame Bush. In fact, they have gone so far as to not invite Obama to any campaign appearances because it would negatively affect their chances of winning.
mea_mark May 31st, 2014 at 10:54
Logic fail.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 11:30
Not a logic fail, a comprehension fail by you. You needed to read earlier posts from arc99
William May 31st, 2014 at 11:38
The Democrats showed real leadership when they ran from their conviction that Iraq had WMD
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
http://youtu.be/OSN-Kku_rFE
arc99 May 31st, 2014 at 16:54
First of all, stop lying about what I said. I did not say I have no problem when some Democrats make a mistake. I said that I have no problem ADMITTING when some Democrats make a mistake.
I also pointed out that the MAJORITY of the Democratic caucus in Congress across both houses opposed the war. I also pointed out that the opposition to the war came from the most LIBERAL members of the party and the Democrats who listened to the Bush administration and right wing hawks are a prime example of what a mistake it is to do that.
The unapologetic hypocrisy of you folks on the right is a thing to behold. For the past 5 years you rant and rave about the President taking responsibility for what happens on his watch. But when it comes to the Iraq war, somehow it is the fault of Democrats.
By the way, the ACA contains several provisions that had been endorsed by the GOP for years before the President was elected, why not ask the Republican members of Congress why they are such spiteful, hypocritical partisans that they would try to sabotage their own ideas.
There is no need to blame President Bush for the ACA. Once the program is implemented and divorced from the right wing lies of the past 5 years, even in very red states like Kentucky, people like what they see. Even Mitch McConnell has realized that.
The ACA is here. People like it once they see what it provides. Your right wing talking points will soon be another quaint example of how conservatives were on the wrong side of history.
Again. Like that pointless war in Iraq for which you pathetically try to blame Democrats.
Bob Waas Sr. May 31st, 2014 at 18:17
Misquoting is far from lying. No one is blaming Democrats. I just get sick of hearing secular progressive liberals blame Bush alone for Iraq when it was passed by Congress; based on the intelligence available at the time. I find the behavior of Kerry, Clinton and others reprehensible and downright cowardly for their lack of patriotism when it turned out there were no WMD.
arc99 June 1st, 2014 at 14:00
my comment was in print. the new comment features enable editing of what you write.
if you cannot take the time to read what you are responding to and respond accurately, it tells us all we need to know about your analysis of more complex questions.
William May 31st, 2014 at 11:34
The President mentions “bipartisan”. Thanks for pointing out just why the President can’t keep promises.
The President warned us about this.
In Feb this year the GOP filibustered and lead the defeat in increased funding for VA healthcare.
Thanks for pointing out how the President ardently supported veterans health care.
Please go on. I also want to hear how the President broke his promise about closing Gitmo, as the GOP pulled funding for the closing.
Then we can have a nice chat about funding Embassy security.
mea_mark May 29th, 2014 at 16:39
It almost sounds to me like the entire GOP should resign, if Shinseki should. I suppose that would be a fair trade off.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 18:31
I agree!
Shades May 29th, 2014 at 15:49
Seriously? That’s how you want to play this? Everyone admits what’s happened with the VA is horrendous and needs to be addressed immediately and you’re going with bathhouse innuendo? You think that gives you the moral high ground? I thought you were one of the (extremely) few conservatives capable of carrying on an intelligent debate here but now I see you’re just another troll.
William May 31st, 2014 at 11:21
Your preoccupation with the subject of “bathhouses” during a discussion about the plight of veterans says so very much about what occupies your persona.
Please go take care of your little fantasy and return when you get it out of your system.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 15:17
Boehner wants
Shinseki to stay because he thinks it will make Obama look bad. I think this crap was going on long before Shinseki and Obama hired Shinseki to fix it. He didnt. But should he be fired for these particular revelations? Not in my opinion .
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 16:01
Exactly Andy! We should bill Chaney’s Halliburton, ExXon & GOP Big Oil for their $6 T Faux Oil War cost including $2 T in GHWB’s new VA costs.
Chinese Democracy May 29th, 2014 at 15:17
Boehner wants
Shinseki to stay because he thinks it will make Obama look bad. I think this crap was going on long before Shinseki and Obama hired Shinseki to fix it. He didnt. But should he be fired for these particular revelations? Not in my opinion .
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 16:01
Exactly Andy! We should bill Cheney’s Halliburton, ExXon & GOP Big Oil for their $6 T Faux Oil War cost including $2 T in GWB’s new VA costs.
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 16:07
Shinseki launched an audit of all 150 VA hospitals and 820 out-patient clinics, employing a team of 200 staffers, to look into delays of care.
Today VA medical facilities are handling 236,000 appointments each day!
Secretary Shinseki accomplishments include enrollment of 2 million new veterans in the VA’s health care system, a 24% reduction in veteran homelessness, and more than one million veterans or eligible family members receiving education benefits.
Secretary Shinseki will meet his goal of ending a backlog in disability claims by 2015. Bill GOP’s Big Oil for the $6 T Iraq Oil War costs including $2 T+ in new VA costs from Halliburton Cheney’s faux oil war that exploded oil prices 10-fold from Clinton’s $12-$14/Brl to US Record $147/Brl in GWB’s 2008.
Obewon May 29th, 2014 at 16:07
Shinseki launched an audit of all 150 VA hospitals and 820 out-patient clinics, employing a team of 200 staffers, to look into delays of care.
Today VA medical facilities are handling 236,000 appointments each day!
Secretary Shinseki accomplishments include enrollment of 2 million new veterans in the VA’s health care system, a 24% reduction in veteran homelessness, and more than one million veterans or eligible family members receiving education benefits.
Secretary Shinseki’s VA will meet his goal of ending a backlog in disability claims by 2015. Bill GOP’s Big Oil for the $6 T Iraq Oil War costs including $2 T+ in new VA costs from Halliburton Cheney’s faux oil war that exploded oil prices 10-fold from Clinton’s $12-$14/Brl to US Record $147/Brl in GWB’s 2008.